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Lusshan
27th December 2007, 11:21 PM
I thought i should share this with you. Just the other day I was contemplating the size of the AG ships. So I did some research and used a car for comparison (fig. 1).

fig. 1 (click the image to enbiggen it)
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2150/feiservsbuickcomp2ov3.png (http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1097/feiservsbuickcompvk1.png)

I sized them so that the drivers' heads are equally large. So I concluded that a FEISAR is exactly a bit longer than a '63 Buick Riviera (which was much shorter than my initial guess of about the size of a fighter jetplane).

BARTgai
27th December 2007, 11:25 PM
hmm, i always seem to recall AG-craft being bigger than that. from all the pictures i saw like online and in the pure galleries.


nice tho :+


( could you do a comparison of a Feisar and a DeLorean? :g:g )

Fascia
28th December 2007, 01:16 AM
I don't believe the pilots in Pulse are to scale, a more acurate idea of relative size would be some of the HD closeups.

http://www.wipeout-game.com/resource/images/site/games_HDscreen01.png

or artwork included with pure.

Lusshan
28th December 2007, 01:24 AM
I guess you're right... perhaps the pilots in pulse use really huge helmets? I didn't take that into account...

BARTgai
28th December 2007, 01:28 AM
god i love that HD Feisar... *drools*

eLhabib
28th December 2007, 07:43 AM
... So I concluded that a FEISAR is exactly a bit longer than a '63 Buick Riviera ...

hehe, I love that statement! 'exactly a bit longer' - classy!

Egg
28th December 2007, 08:49 AM
For the record, the ships are fourteen metres long, and five to six metres wide - in 'game' metres that is (ie, the scale used by the tracks).

I think I scaled-up the pilots' heads a little bit, to make them more visible on the teeny screen.

tapioca
28th December 2007, 10:40 AM
Well… That also makes more place for the brain, right ? As (virtual) racers, we will take it as a kind of compliment more than a scale issue… It's very kind of you, Egg.

ZenDJiNN
28th December 2007, 10:43 AM
WOW!! Fourteen Metres!!?? That's a fair size. I've always thought of the craft to be kind of like "WWII Aircraft" size (Spitfire etc) or maybe a small modern jet, so i guess that would be about right. 5-6 Metres wide is pretty huge as well.... these are pretty big ships then, and we throw them about as if they were made of paper! :g

Dogg Thang
28th December 2007, 11:03 AM
That means the people are giants!

Are the tracks and ships in Pulse working on the same 'game' scale as Pure?

Sausehuhn
28th December 2007, 12:34 PM
14 meters for the win! Woho! (http://cybershot.cy.funpic.de/kram/sonstige_bilder/WipEoutZone/renders/Edge_Cover_WOP.jpg)

I love that they're that big :)

Lusshan
28th December 2007, 01:25 PM
For the record, the ships are fourteen metres long, and five to six metres wide - in 'game' metres that is (ie, the scale used by the tracks).
So my guess of about the size of a fighter jetplane wasn't so bad after all?



I think I scaled-up the pilots' heads a little bit, to make them more visible on the teeny screen.
Or perhaps they're wearing gigiantic helmets!

jtc42
29th December 2007, 04:19 PM
So really, the average wipeout craft is about double the size of an average car.

Amaru
29th December 2007, 04:53 PM
That's huge! =o.o=

Hmm... I had another question based on those technical proportions (posting it here since I wasn't sure it deserved an own thread): What are the safety protocols for pilots in the FX400 league in case of ship destruction? My guess, based on the size and technological level of the ships and trackside support, is that pilots are teleported to the stall (or a backup ship in Extermination mode). Seing such a huge mass of technological hardware (at least in normal competitions as I presume Extermination models are built cheaper) being destroyed makes you consider the economical costs but I can't imagine pilots being seen as expendable. :P Or am I wrong and should reconsider the risks of a Phantom career? XD

Sausehuhn
29th December 2007, 05:00 PM
The WipEout games are always seen as the "offical game to the real sport". They're a simulation. Just like an F1-game.
Not everything you see in the game happends in reallife ;)
WOFusion was - imo - the game that gets the best mark in terms of realism; there were rescue-ships picking up the pilots (when the ships blew up, the pilot was still there in a small drone).

Now that the official WOF website is online again, head yourself to http://wipeoutfusion.proactivity.biz/ , enter the flash site, choose "regulations" from the menu and hit "governing rules". You couldn't get more info about how the races are regulated :)

q_dmc12
29th December 2007, 05:36 PM
( could you do a comparison of a Feisar and a DeLorean? :g:g )

I could help you out with that ;)

Egg
29th December 2007, 06:09 PM
My guess, based on the size and technological level of the ships and trackside support, is that pilots are teleported to the stall
I always wanted to see the pilot escape in an ejector seat. But then, he'd end up like Goose in Top Gun if he tried it in a tunnel ...

I think Fusion got it right, all things considered.

BARTgai
30th December 2007, 01:14 AM
this rule from the Fusion site kinda gave me the creeps: Pilots must not indulge in intimate fluid exchange within 24 hours of a race

kinda makes you wonder who came up with that...


anyways, back on topic. i did feel the scale on pulse was kinda weird, but then again, its not like im racing on a huge hd tv :p

Rapier Racer
30th December 2007, 02:14 PM
Oohh Fusion site back online excellent, I like those eerie sounds :)

NOssX
15th January 2017, 05:11 AM
Welcome Pilots!

Sorry for extremely bump, but I investigated this and in my opinion real [optimal in real world, on real sizes of our streets, buildings, etc.] scale is ~10 Meters. [not 14 meters, when you consider the creation that ship in many practical aspects today... again.. in real world] I did not take into consideration any scale from one specific WO game - I just concluded on the basis of all versions of the WipEout game series.)
I prepared an illustration that clearly show real optimal proportions.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/484/32316359985_e9f4f81ffc_o.jpg

Xpand
15th January 2017, 05:02 PM
That pilot's too big compared to the in-game model. The helmet is perhaps 3/5th of the size on your diagram.
I'd put the ships at the size of small fighter/trainer jets like the F-16, L-39, AlphaJet, etc

Cipher
23rd January 2017, 08:22 PM
Did some research, all measurements are in meters sorted from shortest to longest (W x L x H)

Icaras HD:
7,43 x 17,58 x 3,98

Feisar Fury:
6,75 x 17,71 x 3x97

Mirage Fury:
7,61 x 17,82 x 4,79

Icaras Fury:
6,95 x 17,90 x 3,99

Feisar HD:
7,36 x 17,93 x 3,93

EG-X Fury:
7,19 x 18,13 x 4,08

Triakis Fury:
6,89 x 18,24 3,97

Mirage HD:
8,23 x 18,30 x 5,98

Auricom HD:
6,72 x 18,39 x 4,36

Auricom Fury:
9,91 x 18,53 x 3,98

Goteki Fury:
6,87 x 18,59 x 4,20

EG-X HD:
7,41 x 18,46 x 4,43

Goteki HD:
7,04 x 18,47 x 3,92

Piranha Fury:
7,13 x 18,59 x 4,68

Piranha HD:
7,46 x 18,86 x 3,95

AG-S Fury:
7,77 x 18,90 x 3,06

AG-S HD:
7,71 x 18,93 x 3,30

Qirex Fury:
6,27 x 19,01 x 3,90

Triakis HD:
7,57 x 19,21 x 3,96

Assegai HD:
7,73 x 19,27 x 4,23

Harimau Fury:
6,80 x 19,28 x 3,71

Harimau HD:
6,44 x 19,34 x 4,05

Assegai Fury:
6,63 x 19,94 x 3,84

Qirex HD:
7,68 x 20,68 x 4,09


Based of concept art, blue prints & 3D files, length takes into account weapon barrels, engine, wingtips etc