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    Hey everyone!

    A little while ago I was able to rip all the assets from Wipeout HD. With all the assets came loads of XML files that define pretty much all of the settings for the game, including the settings for each ship. I started putting all of the ship stats into a spreadsheet not too long ago but I've been holding back on posting because I'm not really sure what you guys here think on sharing on such things. The spreadsheet still needs a lot of work done to it, all I've got so far are the basic variables although those by themselves build up quite the list. I've highlighted the four basic rows that would make the most difference to the ships handling, if anyone likes comparing then hopefully that should make it a bit easier.

    Here's the spreadsheet.
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    This is pretty interesting. But it doesn't really seem to reveal much about the ships. i could see this being pretty useful if i knew what all this meant. but even so, a lot of these numbers are the same across all ships and furys. Could you please explain what things like "turning falloff" are?

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    Sure thing, I just added notes to each value (hover over the value title to see what it means). The only problem is that those values have no description so it's only a guess based on how I use similar values to set ship stats in my own game, that's why I highlighted the rows that would obviously make the largest differences to how each ship handles. As for there being loads of repeated numbers, I'll add those into their own table in the future so they're not wasting as much space. Thanks for the feedback!

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    Thanks for the update! I just have one more question I forgot to ask. I noticed that there is no list of shield values on the sheet. Is it possible you could add that?

    Also there seems to be some weird things going on between speed classes. For example, the EGX-hd and AGS-hd's thrust are both rated as a '90' in the game. But in venom to rapier class, you've got AGS rated with more thrust than EGX even though the game says they are the same (in phantom everything seems fine though). kinda reminds me how the AGSystems-speed in 2048 has speed above the pir-hana on A+ class. I think this is kinda funny actually, is Studio Liverpool playing favorites?

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    Really? Most of the stats are the same for AGS HD v Fury? I swear the Fury feels heavier and a bit more sluggish than the HD.

    I assume it may have something to do with the other stats you haven't posted yet.
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    Just updated the spreadsheet with all of the extra stats plus loads of other global settings such as all of the weapon settings.

    Also there seems to be some weird things going on between speed classes. For example, the EGX-hd and AGS-hd's thrust are both rated as a '90' in the game. But in venom to rapier class, you've got AGS rated with more thrust than EGX even though the game says they are the same (in phantom everything seems fine though).
    I'd assume having those values off balance in the lower speed classes has something to do with drag (air resistance), in most cases the acceleration cap drops down after flash (for example AG Systems acceleration cap is 32 in flash but 27 in rapier). It's probably best to compare phantom class stats, those seem to be the most accurate.

    Most of the stats are the same for AGS HD v Fury? I swear the Fury feels heavier and a bit more sluggish than the HD.
    Yeah it's very strange, Wipeout is pretty balanced so most of the stats do remain the same all across the board. You'll probably find that extra weight is an illusion caused from the shape of the craft, I find that the normal AG Systems ship looks pretty flat compared to the Fury version so that could have something to do with it. Another strange thing I noticed when copying the extra stats across is that the shield values don't change between the HD and Fury versions, same for the actual menu rating values as well. Those are probably handled internally instead of being placed in the XML files though.

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    The thing I find interesting is the leftover data from Pulse. That is, the data for the Shuriken and Repulsor weapons. Maybe they were to appear in HD as well, but were cut out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsnake View Post
    Just updated the spreadsheet with all of the extra stats plus loads of other global settings such as all of the weapon settings.
    Great job buddy, I've been looking for something like this for long time, I'm working in some, call it; "Statistical Racing RPG's" Wipeout based, have been developing games like that (lazily over the time), never published or shared anything tho. Anyways, this info is incredibly valuable to me, just two things to ask; have you posted the "updated" spreadsheet? couldn't find the link in your post, and also, is it there any specs/info about the top speeds and speed classes? Thanks in advance man

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    Check the tabs at the bottom of the document
    Speeds are in there btw lol

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    Red face

    Yeah, I was working and couldn't check it depth, I've found it out later at home, but my comment was already done by then
    Anyway, is the link on the post quoted the "revised/final" version?

    Also, there's things that I don't quiet know what to make out of, like the Engine Falloff and the Engine Gain...
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