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    Default What do you want to see in Formula Fusion?

    Thread title should be pretty explanatory, but to help prompt thoughts feel free to break information down into categories. For example, I'll start (note while I use names like speed lap/zone, I understand they most likely won't be called that if they are included in FF at all, but refer to theoretic analogues):

    Technology-
    Visual:
    * This is supposed to effectively be WipEout yeah? That means speed. I'd like to see uncapped FPS to support 144hz monitors, and FreeSync/GSync support. The only kind of limit to speed I want to see is menu framerates capped to 60.

    * Support for multimonitor and high resolution graphics e.g. 4k, 5k.

    * Can easily be alt-tabbed, e.g. borderless fullscreen.

    Controller support:
    * #1 concern is gamepad support, which generally means Xinput.

    * I'd like to see native DualShock 4 support, too, with mappable "6axis" controls. IMO it's a huge bonus to control pitch in Wipeout HD with the motion controls; I always find myself moving off my desired line by using the joystick or d-pad. While some external apps allow for this, it would probably make it easier for the vast majority to include it natively.

    * Concern #2 is allowing keyboard & mouse users especially map functions to multiple keys, e.g. having accelerate as "B" as well as "X" or "mouse4", and also turning left as "left" as well as "mouse axis X-". I don't know any specific functions that would make the game more playable by having this, but I am still certain some people would make use of such a feature, and it should be so simple a feature to include for such a talented team

    Online:
    * Offline play. Even if you're going to release the game only on Steam, people should have the ability to play the game easily offline and upload their ghosts/records later.

    * Minimum 8 player online multiplayer.

    Gameplay-
    Visual:
    * Mod-able HUD. While the default HUD should be minimalistic and sufficient, past WipEouts have led me to think the devs don't get it 100% right for 100% of players. As long as there's nothing that could allow players to cheat, I think this would be really good.

    * I'm sure you think you'll get it right, but clear and distinct graphics that don't clutter.

    Controls/playing:
    * Without getting into detail which would be 100% ignored anyway, I'll just say I'd like to see an evolution of WipEout HD when it comes to how the game plays and feels. Not in the direction of 2048, obviously. Perhaps something along the lines of more complicated physics e.g. wind dynamics, weather, etc.... Honestly I think making gameplay more sim-like is absolutely the way to go. Weapons are fine and all, but there's so much more to HD/Fury than shooting people that it would just be a waste to focus on such overly retreaded territory yet again. People already have Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed for weapons based arcade racing, why compete on their own level?

    * Zero lag in navigating menus. Sounds small? It's the most frustrating thing in the world. I can't tell you how annoying it was to have HD/F not let me quit/restart a race/speedlap session half a microsecond faster when I've messed up and need to leave the current session. It is... annoying.

    * Gamemodes:
    Green races! I.e., no weapons but allow players to boost at will. Make it official.

    Speed laps: I really like the aerial ballet possible in HD/Fury, and learning how to perform such manoeuvres is integral to the gameplay for when you want to race. So while I understand it can be seen as unfair on beginners to learn how to best use your boost and learn advanced techniques like "BSB", I think the fun factor wins out. The only reason 2048 had any replayability at all was because the controls are so bad and the handling was made terrible, and that... that, is not cool.

    Zone: I'd like to see it.

    Other:
    * An external track creation program... give everyone an application that allows people to craft their own tracks. Don't even need to allow people to import textures or models or anything... give them a Zone-like Palette and a few decals and that should be enough. Hey... I'd just like to see it. As long as you don't do a StarCraft 2 it should add replayability provided the gameplay makes people want to come back.

    * Menus that, unlike 2048, are actually usable and make sense.

    * Last but certainly far from least... ABSOLUTELY NO PERK UNLOCK CARROT ON A STICK HELL. If you can unlock skins and stuff like CS: GO, that's great. But if you give a player with 100 hours about 10 different ways to make life even more unfair on noobs, that's not cool. If you force players to play the game for 20 hours before they can play the game as it should be played, that's not just not cool, it's incredibly ****ed. Do not do it.

    That's all I can think of for now... As much as I'd appreciate an old-style gameplay mode in the vein of Wipeout 2097/Wipeout 3, it's beyond the scope of what I'd expect of the devs given what I already want regarding gameplay.

    Everyone else?
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    All I want is a level playing field for both newcomer and long time racer.
    The biggest problem that happened with the WO franchise was the Barrel Roll, not so much it's existence, but the way it was implemented into the game, and the controller dexterity needed to successfully do it.

    It left a huge chasm between those that can/could do, and those that couldn't always, couldn't a lot, or just got so annoyed with the feature that they gave up playing the game.
    Like the founder of the wipoutzone, Infoxicated, he basically lost all interest once BR's appeared in Wipeout.

    I mean it's a racing game, knowing the track and the best lines were what it was all about prior to PURE.

    And it should be for a AG Formula one type race.

    You don't want what basically is a 'Trick Move' tied to the steering of a racing game.

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    Agreed 100%.
    Actually, not only do barrel rolls need to go, I think that the impact of weapons should also be toned down considerably. Weapons should serve as a small bonus advantage in a head-to-head race, but they should NEVER have the power to turn a race around completely. Things like the infamous blue shell from Mario Kart are an offence to people who take racing a perfect line seriously. No weapon should have an effective range further than line of sight.

    One thing I have theorized about since wipEout pure is the option to eliminate boosts as a pickup from the game altogether and instead give players the option to convert every weapon pickup into a small boost, therefor eliminating the need for gimmicks like the barrel roll. So if I pick up a rocket, I can shoot it with button A, convert it to shield energy with button B, or convert it into a small boost with button C. This way, weapon pickup pads become an asset to a fast racing line as well and you can leave them turned on for time trials and speed laps, just disabling the fire button A.

    Oh and one more thing: I know it's flashy and you can put pictures of it on boxes and ads and even Mario Kart does it now, but PLEASE: mag strips? loopings? driving upside down? Adds absolutely NOTHING to the enjoyment of a track and is highly unrealistic and goofy even for an AG racing game. Just leave it be.
    My two cents.
    Formula Fusion is going to be great, I believe in you!

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    Eliminator mode. No quakes for online multilayer though.Sometimes too many quakes effeat the synergy of the race. A new international weather sim would be nice also.
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    How about some WipEout references?

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    3D Vision ready please!

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    After playing tons of Forza for the last few days, I'd really like to see a massive visual editor like in those games. Surely custom paintjobs are still a thing that exists in 2075.

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    I have a thought. how about there are no weapon pads at all? let's say the race craft have a "firepower" stat like in twenty forty-eight, but instead of boosting damage output, it increases room for your weapon load-out. each weapon would have a specific value to the load out, for example maybe a missile is worth 15 points, and a ship can carry like 50 points. And if the firepower stat increases they can carry up to 150 points. Of course all weapons would need their own personal limits, like you're only allowed to carry one quake even if you have room for two.

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    after playing pretty much all wipeout games a lot. Here is a list that I think is needed to make the best wipeout type game ever!
    some things on the list may be things that you already have but just stating stuff that i think needs to be in for max entertainment!

    A few things that I think this title need in order for me to enjoy it to the max,

    1 difficult tracks that can be raced on max speed without braking for a corner.
    2 have a option to never press the thrust button, but just press a button when you want to go less than the max. I play a whole lot of zone mode (favorite mode) and I don't have to press X all the time and i love that!
    3 plz add a Zone mode, I love the INSANE SPEEDS, not the lousy phantom speeds.
    It takes around 10 min to get to a speed I like in zone mode and during that time i'm browsing the web and watching series.
    4 I would like a system that for example saves a checkpoint for every 10 perfect zones you did in a row. because if you can do 10 you're good enough to be at that speed. (I dont care about the points i just want to get a zone higher ) the checkpoint should be at the first of the 10 perfect zones so that you still need to do some work.
    5 internal cam/front cam I would love it to have the camera on the tip of the nose so that i don't see my ship at all and am low to the ground, this gives me the best speed sensation of them all. flying out of internal/front cam is easier but feels boring compared to front cam if you have mastered it.
    6 Wipeout 2097 and wip3out had a bit more icy feel to the planes, (no direct movement like HD), but when mastered feel so very good! It would be nice to have 1 or 2 crafts that use this type of smooth piloting.
    7 barrel rolls I like what they do and give a extra fun thing to do/master even for internal views.
    8 scraping the wall should not slow you down but build up energy, energy that can be used to enable turboís. (this will make flying super close to the wall rewarding, but getting closer than just a scrape and you should get a speed penalty)
    9 Use up HP to get speed boost, like wip3out I really like this risk/ reward system. this allowed for last second wins if you had enough hp on the end of a track.
    10 insane looking tracks with twists and upside down stuff.
    11 keep the air brakes, they rule and make wipeout awesome. dont lose momentum when turning tight.
    12 Racebox, I never understood how wipeout 2048 could ship without it! I want to be able to pick what track I want to race on and what settings/mutators are enabled.
    13 When hitting a plane thats in front of me I want it to fly up in the air so I can race underneath him to take his place. wipeout hd did not do this so if you shot someone really close you you he would lose speed and bump into you thats really bad! Cool take overís is what i would like to see.
    14 donít give me the blur stuff I want to see everything full sharpness when my cam is hovering just above the ground.
    15 add long trails they just make it look so much cooler!
    16 donít make the vehicles look like cars!
    17 add ghosts, so we can race or best versions, with the option to save a few extra ghosts, for different challenges. also allow replay to see how a ghost plane flew without having to chase it yourself.
    18 share ghosts
    19 simple readable hud that show speed, hp, energy and weapons in one flash.
    20 you have to have turboís and weapon pickups scattered over the map.
    21 have a option to change pickups and turboís every race so that even pro players need to scout and remember the spots during a new race.
    22 to make this game noob friendly without the auto steering. make the wall slow you down less the further you are behind the nr 1 player. for example till 2 sec delay same amount of friction on walls as nr 1 position player then scale that up to 10 seconds delay with almost no friction at all. this will bring the pack of pilots closer together and makes it more fun with all the guns going off in the battlefield.
    23 Did I mention it needs to go really fast with smooth cornering!

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    Just my wishlist (may get's expanded):
    1. Reeeeeaaaaallllly long tracks (like in Fusion) and realy short tracks.
    2. Crafts that look like actual crafts.
    3. A team from Germany
    4. Pls no dystopic future
    5. Pitlanes instead of absorbing
    6. Giving players the ability to create their own racing style, like either laying into corners, or previous mentioned drifting.
    7. Getting connected with the game.

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