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    @Blackwiggle: I believe you're wrong on this:

    at 10% airbrake the slightest touch will give you lot's of brake, which you don't want in this 0br event.
    at 100% airbrake you''ll miss a side-shift easier, since you didn't press hard enough, but you won't slow down that much from the breaking.

    And yes I'm frustrated (in a happy way ) atm in my 0rolls attempts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackwiggle View Post
    With acceleration, the X button should be at it's lowest 10% rating, this gives almost instantaneous acceleration.

    With Air Brakes, the lower the setting [%], the MORE sensitive the air brake button you have chosen to control braking becomes, so it basically needs very little movement to brake effectively .

    The "Side Effect" of having a very low Air Brake % is, that since Side Shifting is ALSO tied into the Airbraking controls.
    The Lower your % is, the less likely a successful side shift will occur.
    yes. I have noticed this. But i've also adjusted to tapping harder (SS). It takes a little getting used to, but if it works, and you're used to it - its all good

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    FYI sideshift response times are the same no matter what airbrake sensitivity you run. It's doesn't matter how hard or soft you press, it's about airbrake input. As long as there is a double input, that is enough.

    The only thing that affects sideshifting is how long you hold on the 2nd tap, which affects sideshift distance. With short taps, for most circuits it takes 3 - 3.5 sideshifts to cross the track. With long presses, it takes only 2 sideshifts.

    If you don't believe me I'll make a video but I have 0.2mb upload and I'd rather save my bandwidth for Phantom TT/SL

    Protip: Pre 2.51 - The lower your airbrake %, the faster you will be once you master it, for post 2.51 it's the opposite.
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    oh wauw, you can control the amount of sideshift?! o_O
    That's very handy to know!!! Thanks yeldar!

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    Try it yourself. Sit stationary on a track and move all the way to one side, then see how many sideshifts it takes to get to the other side.
    On Anulpha Pass start/finish line for example, you can do 2 - 3.5 sideshifts to cross the track. Makes a big difference in corners if you consider the distance covered.

    NB: This amount is strictly to do with how long you hold the 2nd tap (the one that activates the SS). Airbrake % has nothing to do with it, as stated previously

    Bit offtopic, but a pro tip nonetheless. I'll put a copy in the 'did you know' thread lol.

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    all I've learned in this game is because of him. It's about time he comes to pick up that big present waiting here for him. before it turns into smoke
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    Just doing what I can to pass on what I learned from my old masters.

    Don't you worry you'll be hearing from me
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    I've always found it to be easier with a lower sensitivity, at least with L1 & R1 airbrakes.

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    I've always had airbrakes at 50% with L2/R2. In this event I started playing around with the settings.
    @100% I had problems sidesifting and @10% I set my current pb.

    Yesterday I changed the button to L1/R1 @100%, which felt amazing. Lowering back to 10% felt a bit less. But I think I have to get used to the new button setup first.

    Quote Originally Posted by yeldar2097 View Post
    Protip: Pre 2.51 - The lower your airbrake %, the faster you will be once you master it

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    Whoa that's some tip there yeldar. Thanks a lot! Never noticed that. It might be very useful when trying to pull off side-shift barrel-rolling when going off those lil bumps on the tracks.

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