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    perhaps we're being a bit rough vin but keep in mind we're all sad and angry about this piece of news, I mean surely you know how we feel and perhaps, if you ask me it is ok to be angry at this point in time, and well when I speak of sony I mean the corporation not the employees, you could look at it like a country, the classic example being the USA these days, I mean if you ask anyone who has ever met or talked to an american they will tell you that they love americans, but that doesn't mean we have to agree with the american government or like everything that it does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Berry View Post
    NO!
    Please do not start such stupid rumours, you have mentioned this twice now on separate threads and it is completely pointless to do so, and serves no purpose whatsoever

    Colin's death had nothing to do with the studio closing at all, end. period.

    Colin had left studio Liverpool over 12months ago, he was working on other projects completely unrelated to Sony Liverpool. His death 2 weeks ago was a massive shock and HUGE loss, he was one of the best friends anyone could have.
    Please do not continue to speculate in such a manner, linking two completely separate things.
    Thank you Mr. Berry for clearing that up. I know the death of one person does not end a corporation. If that was the case, a whole lot of companies would be gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airrider View Post
    As a fan of the former accused, I pray there's another game. There's got to be another place to take the Auricom-Qirex fight.

    If there is, I'll be there. And I'll be waiting.
    Easy there tiger.

    Would much love them to elaborate the feud in a future title though!
    Last edited by Whizawk; 24th August 2012 at 02:14 AM. Reason: Forgot the quote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vincoof View Post
    It's like the whole Japan should burn because a bunch of Japanese guys did something terrible.
    I seriously wanted to make a comment about this happening once already, but I suspect that it would A: miss the point, and B: be somewhat silly and redundant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vincoof View Post

    Please remember we wouldn't play any of these games if Sony weren't there in the first place. Kudos to their continuous effort on the series. Period.
    For a long time many here have voiced the opinion that we might of been better off if Sony had never bought the rights to Wipeout.
    It's treated the franchise badly over the years with woeful to basically no publicity, and relegating the game to selling handheld consoles.
    When everybody knows Wipeout is best played on a BIG screen.

    Plus it has used Wipeout as the "Guinea Pig" for any new technology that Sony is trying to flog off.
    Thankfully the talented SL team has/had for the most part been able to save Wipeout from being a glitch ridden disaster

    I don't think we have seen the last of Wipeout.
    But I dread to think of the possible dog's breakfast any new development team could make of the series without at least some people who have worked on at least one previous Wipeout.

    My feelings about this whole thing [and who's ultimately responsible for it], and what might happen next exactly mirror Infoxicated's

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackwiggle View Post
    I don't think we have seen the last of Wipeout.
    But I dread to think of the possible dog's breakfast any new development team could make of the series without at least some people who have worked on at least one previous Wipeout.
    My previous experience on this kind of rebirth is somewhat pessimistic. For instance SNK did incredible fighting games in the 90's, e.g. the KoF series, but the company had some serious financial issues and ultimately did shut down in 2001. Eventually some of the former employees kept on developing titles with SNK Playmore (which is practically SNK reborn from its ashes) and continued the KoF series which was exactly what the fans were looking for, but... the truth is, none of the sequels got the hype that many of the former KoF titles had in their golden age.

    If I had to interview gamers and ask them what fighting games made their day in the past years, many of them would answer Street Fighter, Tekken or BlazBlue but very few of them if any would answer King of Fighters. So, the series was reborn by the developers for the fans, but at which cost ? A dying franchise which barely survives because some fans want to believe in a potential successful title ?

    I guess many gamers here don't give a damn to SNK or fighting games or whatever but I'm pretty sure you see the point.

    Back on topic, the question is: are you ready to live the same history for the WipEout franchise ? Is it really worth that SL raises from its ashes and create titles that only fans might enjoy ? Would you like to see your favorite series lose its breath time after time until the day it can't breathe anymore ?

    Of course there's no guarantee that WO will endure the same fate. Then ask to yourself, didn't it alreasy happened when Psygnosis became Studio Liverpool ? Many people here (including myself) state that the last stunning WipEout title was WipEout 3 SE which, incidentally, was the last one developed by Psygnosis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackwiggle View Post
    It's treated the franchise badly over the years with woeful to basically no publicity, and relegating the game to selling handheld consoles.
    When everybody knows Wipeout is best played on a BIG screen.
    Don't underestimate the power of wiping on the train or the toilet!! In all fairness, I do think the Vita is an awesome piece of kit and would personally prefer to see it become more of a priority for developers, not less. My 2p...

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    It's just the consistent lost opportunities that have befallen Wipeout that are a constant frustration.
    SONY stuffed up.
    They have stuffed up with digital rights management as well
    Bad calls regarding publicity
    Bad calls regarding which platform Wipeout came out on......SL wouldn't be shutting down if PURE & PULSE & 2048 were both released on Duel Platforms [PSP & PS 2/Vita/PS3]
    Why only half showcase "Crossplay"?
    Dumb decisions.
    Who made them?

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    Agreed! Especially regarding the publicity!!

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    Many speculations and yet no proof that better publicity or dual platform release or whatever would have result in a different ending.

    It's too easy once something is done to say "I would have made different decisions and things would have been better". They made decisions based on the facts and forethoughts they had in the time the game was designed, developed and released.

    I'm not saying they made the best decisions ever, but I'm fairly unsure I would have made better decisions if I had to chose them, and - no offense intended - I'm pretty sure everybody here could hardly *guarantee* they would have done better either if they had to make decisions in the same time and place as Sony had to.

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