View Poll Results: Are you sick of weapons online?

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  • Yes weapons fire is the bane of my existance!

    18 31.03%
  • Meh, I could do without em but... meh.

    11 18.97%
  • Nah I kinda like the combat.

    13 22.41%
  • Hell no! I love shooting people!

    16 27.59%
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Thread: weapons

  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Temet View Post
    In WOHD, I kinda hate them... rockets, mines or bombs slow you really too much. This has been said several times, it's not only my feeling
    In old Wipes, weapons used to slow you down less, and ships didn't take ages to gain speed again.
    Yes, I like the way the weapons are in the first game. They're tactical and subtle. 2097 is fine too. If the new games had something like that, I wouldn't complain about weapons at all.

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    I don't mind weapons at all, and I find in most of the races I do with a small starting grid that a gentlemans agreement seems to come into play- if racing just a couple of opponents, bombs and mines are infrequently laid, and the higher skill weapons are the polite way to go- cannon fire is fine! I only use quakes etc if my opponent has raced off into the distance.

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    weapons?
    YES, of course. u know, it's a weapons based racing game.
    u don't want weapons? easy solution: don't play wipEout.
    play f-zero instead or other fast racers without weapons.
    have u ever heard anyone saying: i don't like weapons in an ego-shooter? of course not.

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    It wasn't always a "combat racing" game, though.
    As people have said before, it used to be about the anti-gravity ships, the speed, the challenge, racing; the weapons were just something extra that made it more tactical (with a little luck, of course). A racing game with weapons in it, not a luck-based-weapons-based racing game, as it's become.
    If it had always been like this, I might agree with your solution. But what most people complain about applies to HD Fury much more than the other games.

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    Voted for the wrong one. >_<

    Meant to vote for Weapos are the greatest thing since sliced bread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JFthebestJan View Post
    u don't want weapons? easy solution: don't play wipEout.
    You donīt like weapons? easy solution: Turn them off. Yes, we can!

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    I won't go into a long essay, because a lot of people know my stance on weapons. Let's just say I don't like them.

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    Just thought I'd make myself a bit clearer as well. I don't think the use of weapons makes a pilot worse at the game, but I do think it takes the fun out of WipEout. I play WipEout because it's a high detail, extreme speed, Anti-Gravity racing game. Although weapons have their place in this game, some take it too far for my tastes.

    This could be the reason I've been playing Jet Moto more than WipEout lately. (Weapons and lack of Phantom rooms)

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    For the most part I race DEfensively not offensively. If you shoot me I will not hesitate to shoot back! Don't really like the shootouts that tend to happen when you get a bunch of skilled racers in a heated race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JFthebestJan View Post
    weapons?
    YES, of course. u know, it's a weapons based racing game.
    u don't want weapons? easy solution: don't play wipEout.
    play f-zero instead or other fast racers without weapons.
    have u ever heard anyone saying: i don't like weapons in an ego-shooter? of course not.
    Since half of HD's modes have nothing to do with weapons I'd hardly call Wipeout a weapons-based racing game.
    Telling someone that what they like about a game is apparently beside the point and that they should play a completely different game instead seems a bit silly, no? Hell, 50% of people polled here on a WipEout fan site seem to outright disagree with that stance as of right now.

    And I'm not sure what an ego-shooter is, but I'm pretty sure that's about 15 miles off the mark if you're talking about WipEout.

    Anyway...
    It ultimately comes down to what's fair. Weapons as they're currently implemented simply aren't, and it's fundamentally flawed game design IMO. You can say aspects of them are fun, but you can't escape the fact they're unfair either.

    IMO, something needs to change if racing is meant to be the primary focus of WipEout, and it has to go further than toning down the amount of randomness by dividing the items between new pads.
    Unfairness has no place in a skill-based racing game.
    Last edited by amplificated; 28th September 2011 at 03:25 AM.

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