weapons

[Oryx Crake]

I'm so sick of getting hit with so many weapons online these days that I'm honestly considering not playing online anymore. just wanted to see what your take was on it.

[trackripper]

Agree with you totally. Especially 1v1's. When it's just you and a randomer, and you have a clear 3 sec lead that you fought hard to get with lines, not weapons, then he just fires a rocket at you and flies past, well, that's just annoying.

Especially when he flies out of sight and you just happen to pick up a missile that's out of range. Story of my life.

[MrSmadSmartAlex]

I voted against weapons. Not because I want them removed from the game (though I wouldn't object to that), but because they're just stupidly overpowered in HD Fury in particular (Pure and Pulse also have overpowered weapons, but not so bad). The speed loss is just too much IMO.

[Flint Fandango]

Weapons are for sissies, imo.
Mines, Bomb and Quake equals scraping, pricking and hair-tearing.
In Wip3out, I play weps off only, because you still have the possibility to do a hyperthrust, but in HD I prefer "green races" due to the Turbo.

[Rennfisch]

I agree as well.

Normaly I fly Piranha. It has well-known less thrust. A few mines/bombs - I'm the last one immediately and if I pass someone I'll be hit by some missile or such crap and can't get away from last place.

When I host a race without weapons, after a few tracks most of the contenders were gone.

[trackripper]

When I host a race without weapons, after a few tracks most of the contenders were gone.

This is SO true. I turned weps off for a full Rapier room, 5 left after the first race (did it suddenly... ) and 2 messaged me, 1 saying "F*** you noob", and the other politely asking for weps to be turned on. The latter was Azurooth

[MrSmadSmartAlex]

Somebody called you a noob for turning the weapons off?!

[Flint Fandango]

Hey, imagine an eliminator with weapons off...
That would make a great WOZ-Trophy: Win an eliminator just by ramming your opponents to death, slam ´em into walls and push them off the track, if possible.
Sweet fantasy...

[Rennfisch]

ROFL! Everyone wants to pilot a Triakis then!

[trackripper]

Somebody called you a noob for turning the weapons off?!

I know right? I lol'ed quite a bit at that one.

[R3BU5ER]

I hate bombs and mines, but ofcourse, always try to get in front all means necessary

[UB3R~JKP]

Voted for the wrong one. >_<

Meant to vote for Weapos are the greatest thing since sliced bread.

[Light Buster]

Really hard to win without weapons how I look at it. In fact, I manage to win barely using weapons against the Elite AI on Modesto Heights.

[james1976]

I like the weapons. My only gripe is that I cannot customize my ship more.

What drew me to WipEout HD is the fact it reminded me so much of a game I used to love years ago called "Rock n' Roll Racing". So I like the weapons.

I should say though, that WipEout HD is my first WipEout game so I have no idea if the others have weapons or not. I got it with Sony's Welcome Back package and have been enjoying it. Only got into the online portion of the game just last week.

[D_1998_BR]

I win most flash and venom races,after that the host takes longer times between games,i think he sends everyone a message to pwn me,I always get punished by rockets,quakes and missiles...Quickly eliminated,but I return into 3rd or 2nd.

[leungbok]

Somebody called you a noob for turning the weapons off?!

Off course !! How can someone deprive real players from their quake and bomb's skills ?

[Tiduch]

I love weapons, especially on eliminator.

That would make a great WOZ-Trophy: Win an eliminator just by ramming your opponents to death, slam ´em into walls and push them off the track, if possible.
Sweet fantasy...

It's impossible, you dont get points for ram kill.

[JFthebestJan]

@ ampli:
plz read again the first post of this thread. i quoted it for u

I'm so sick of getting hit with so many weapons online these days that I'm honestly considering not playing online anymore. just wanted to see what your take was on it.

oryx talks about online and weapons! there's no word of offline modes, so it can't be part of this discussion. maybe u get it now. if not, i really dont know what's ur problem.

[amplificated]

The thread's narrative drifted when you stated that WipEout was a weapons based racing game, which I was correcting by providing evidence that that is not the case.

Here, I'll quote it for you:

weapons?
YES, of course. u know, it's a weapons based racing game.
u don't want weapons? easy solution: don't play wipEout.

And with comments saying "don't play wipEout", it's hard to assume you're only referring to single race weapons on mode - rather that you were commenting on the game as a whole, which I hope I've shown to be largely non-weapons based.

Also, I missed your edit:

@ ampli:
all the modes u r talking about, r exclusively single player offline modes, so we can't count it. all online modes (single race; eliminator; zone battle; tournament) re weapons based. fact.
well, ego-shooter (first person shooters) r weapons based, so it's not 15 miles off, just a few millimetres

In my previous post I kind nullified your "fact" that all online modes are weapons based (even by just 25%), and secondly, it's impossible to compare WipEout HD to Quake or something like that. They're utterly dissimilar to the point that the weapons serve completely different purposes in all modes bar eliminator, so I can't see how calling WipEout an ego-shooter or relating it to one is to any significant degree an accurate assessment.

[AG-SYSTEMS]

Well, I kinda like them, but I hate hitting Mines. Then again, I'm a poor pliot. I can't get wepons half the time.