What are we talking about here? People using lips to BR or the new found speed cheat, it's widespread online already? please tell me not .
What are we talking about here? People using lips to BR or the new found speed cheat, it's widespread online already? please tell me not .
I can't speak for texasalex, but I can speak for slow-train, and what I'll say for his defence ( if it is him that blackwiggle is accusing of usin this glitch) I've met slow-train in person. We've spoke about our love of this game, about all aspects of it. From lag to cheats, and I'll stake both my balls to back up his credibility as a HD purist. Slow-train is not a cheat!!!
Mmmm lips are sexy ^_^
Not sure why the future of the WOHD Cup should be in any doubt, I'd say the vast majority of races are held at Phantom (bits of Rapier here and there) and the technique involved to gain the extra speed is almost impossible at these speeds. Sure, you could practice it, but you'd have to be better than everyone else in the world in order to pull it off anyways. In other words, you wouldn't need it
From the very beginning I've thought all races should be held at Phantom speeds anyway, but that's just me being elitist I guess.
tbh guys I still had no time to try this stuff myself, but from what I understand it's affecting a LOT slower speed classes. I think more & more we should release the infos about this stuff, in order to avoid conflicts between nice fellow pilots. I really still don't know what to think about that atm, as it's somewhat similar to Jaytech. And I still don't know what could be the impact of this stuff on the phantom boards, can it be useful? argh on some straight lines? EDIT : THANKS YELDAR FOR THE UPDATE, HOPEFULLY PHANTOM IS SAFE THEN LOL Maybe we shouldn't allow venom & flash speed classes after round 1, in the cup.
Also, I'm really doubting about you Djm; I had a talk with long timer Chaos80, wipeout pilot since ages... He really felt something weird when racing you, especially on ubermal venom.
So what are my conclusions there. This stuff is about to definitely ruin wipeout hd, sooner or later, so let's just widespread this "discovery". My opinion this morning lol.
Last edited by kanar; 8th January 2011 at 10:59 AM.
The lip thing isn't cheating, that's been around long before HD hasn't it? I'll make a stand for Slow-Train as well, In all the time I've been playing him I've never thought of him as a cheat, just fast. As for Texasalex, his vids prove that he is just very, very good.
This, I'm afraid is what is going to happen. Everyone paranoid that everyone else is using this glitch. GAME OVER I think.
GAME OVER for venom & flash kgb, maybe a bit Rapier class too, but this trick at phantom is hardly useful.
Well this is just going to bring up mass paranoia whenever somebody chooses a lower speed class in the cup now. FFS
Only 3/4 knackered then . Maybe I'm over reacting and getting on my moral high horse, but speed lap, Time trial and online at those speeds all seem to of been compromised beyond repair.
It's just a great shame for everyone. Just as well I like Phantom.
Some of the TT/SL scores at lower classes are lost forever, yes, but there's certainly a few that a beatable. I'm by no means a specialist at the sub-phantom classes and I reckon I could have a few. Get Texas, barny, shape, phaeton etc... on the case and we'll have the top spots cleared in no time. Don't give up hope (cheers Cat ).
Let's be honest, there's some pretty fubar phantom scores as well, some of them completely random *ahem*SaturnReturnUbermallReverseTT*ahem*. What?
Keep calm and WipE on
I guess if someone admits it and gets a hard time from people then no-one else is going to admit it and paranoia will reign, like never before.
I suggest an amnesty, i.e. a thread where people can own up to use of a glitch, can promise never to use it again, and no-one will say anything bad about it.
As for me, well I mainly race at Phantom, but can't deny these things cross my mind when a lead suddenly disappears, and when I suddenly see brand new players beating everyone. I had good faith before. These things were brought up with me ages ago, but I didn't want to start accusing people without any proof, so I suggested that, if it couldn't be discussed neutrally then best not to start something at all. It's come out eventually and I hope word hasn't spread too far.
@DjM1zw1z - Like I said, I don't see anyone trusting your times now. However, you can help us all out, and perhaps go some way to gaining some appreciation from folks. Firstly, you can let us (or me, or someone you trust) know how many others you know of who used this glitch, as well as the source of it. This way we can get a better idea whether it's anything to worry about. If you know people who use it then I would actively discourage them to use it and encourage them to own up to it. I'll start a thread where they can do so and will 'lay the smackdown' as it were, on anyone who gives them grief.
This is really all I can think of to help the situation. Show of hands from anyone who supports this approach?
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Stop making me feel bad. But seriously, if anyone ever has any suggestions on how that might have happened then let me know on my profile or something. It's always baffled me.
i think its also important that we get some surefire ways of telling whos glitching so we don't start having a go at anyone and everyone and getting all paranoid. im sure it isnt as bad as being made out to be is it? IS IT?!?!?
bit like this but a how to tell who's glitching version
http://www.catswhothrowupgrass.com/kill.php
@ Leungbok. I always thought there was something fishy going on there
If we were to see a video of this glitch in operation would it give away how you do it?
its a shame this has happened,i race ven n flash daily against sinus1,texasalex,tarquin and many more great lower class pilots! now it will never be the same again!
so i'll just have to do what rezatron suggested to me last week, to take of my training wheels and come and race phantom with the big boys lol
Haha, that's ace. This is a page linked from that site, made me laugh lots http://divisibleby0.com/murder/
Yes, it's properly blatant. It would also show you why it would be nigh on impossible at high speeds. That and you can only really use it on straight sections of track.
Actually I shouldn't really be giving clues should I? Shut up yeldar, keep it to yourself so you can reign supreme!!
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Afaik this glitch/bug/whatever was discovered completely by accident and only used by those who discovered it themselves (2 or 3 people tops). I'd like to think there wasn't some sort of glitch-sharing group who all kept quiet about it and kept their records subtle. Pretty sure most players wouldn't even think of that.
Maybe I should be worried that I did...?
i´m trying to record all my matches at the cup and upload them to my youtube account.
i think this is a good preservation of getting blamed as a glitcher.
but this can´t be the final solution to this problem. has anyone tryed to contact the guys at studio liverpool?
i don´t know how the glitch works but there must be a way to patch it away. (without any change to the handling of course!)
We already tried to contact SL a year ago about giant shortcut's glitches, with videos to show them ! But still no answer