The Wipeout HD Cup

[kanar]

R3BU5ER that's cool, and that's nice to share our thoughts on that matter Tbh, I'm pretty sure green races won't be the favourite choice during this cup. Most of the people are even not aware about this custom mode lol. So it's not a big deal IMO. Mate maybe we should play some green races together lol, so you could see by yourself it's a fair way to race too. Just imagine a set of rocket in your ass, or a respawn. So a single boost late in green race sounds pretty fair compared to that eh?

ACTUAL DISCUSSIONS :
-Total free choice or restriction to 2 ZB max for each opponent
-Green or not Green

these are the questions atm lol.


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[SaturnReturn]

Green races - I'm not completely against or completely for it, as I don't have enough experience with it. Maybe some practice green races with two players could be done as an experiment. It might be quite different in only a two player race compared to a fuller room. I've only done them in half full rooms ages ago but if I didn't get a boost it did feel like a massive let down sometimes. I felt quite reliant on it as my one way to have a chance. I don't think it's a less fair way to do it, as both competitors are exposed to the same level of chance, but I think in general people would feel it was less fair.
You could take separate polls on these things. But really you'd want a poll of the participants and not just a normal open poll.

As for the zone battle thing - you could just say that both players have to pick at least two different modes. That way no-one could pick three normal weapons on single races either. It might feel a little less like it was against zone battle that way, and guarantees at least a little variation in every match, which is probably a good idea if it's aimed at the best all around player, because they could otherwise get a route through the tournament where they only ever played weps on races, just by chance.

[kanar]

both players have to pick at least two different modes.

Mmm. I think we can definitely go with that. By modes, you mean single race weapons, single race no weapons, and zone battle, right? If you guys are ok, we'll validate this.

As for green races, let's say it's pending status for now, and still open for further discussions. As we're 2 on the track, IMO I believe turbo item won't be an issue. But as I said, I'm really open to any point of view. Try it & report any issue with it.

[R3BU5ER]

Ey that's smart thinking there saturn, I think that solves everything.
Just at least 2 different races, for example 1: no wep 2: no wep 3:wep, ZB, or (green)....right.? I'm totally in

[SaturnReturn]

Yes guys, that's exactly what I meant. I suppose the question is then only whether endurance is a mode and what it is defined as. At the moment I think number of laps is free choice, but if endurance were to be considered a separate mode then the minimum number of laps would have to be defined, or we would maybe have to say that number of laps doesn't make something a different mode.

EDIT: I suppose it's also worth considering whether a different speed class would count as a different 'mode'. I think maybe it should, because it's difficult to be a specialist of all speed classes and introduces variation as well. If so then perhaps a statement such as, "Each player has the choice of settings for three races. Of these three races, no more than two may have identical settings." Then you could define what the settings would be, e.g. single race, zone battle, weapons on/off, barrel rolls on/off, 5 laps (standard race), 15 - 20 laps (endurance race), speed class etc....Something like that.

[R3BU5ER]

Oh yeah... Also that! I was assuming that would be 5 anyway...
I forgot Kanar, I suppose ur right About not many people choosing for green, got Ã* point there!
But I still think it's questionable
Not my choise though good night guys

[blackwiggle]

I think if you have too many choices it's going to complicate things unnecessarily, especially with so many pilots racing.
The format really needs to be set in stone before any further promotion is begun, and only to use the options that are available when selecting tracks on the online board, so for me Green Races should be out only because it is not a standard type of race selection known by everybody.

My suggestion is each player has to pick and host a track for one weapon on [any speed], one weapon off [any speed] and one zone battle track [the organizing committee should decide a fair max number of zones, as this mode is rarely played by most]

Only if neither pilots want to play zone battle, then they each get to replace what would of been zone battle with a 3rd choice of track/class/weapon on or off.

This should give a fair representation of any particular pilots skills, as it gives them the best options to select what they feel comfortable with, as we all know some specialize at specific speed classes, and make themselves equally as worthy as elite phantom pilots, and just as hard to beat.

The 7th track remains the same Rapier/ Weapons on/ Anulpa Forward.

What you want to do if pilot assist is asked for, I say let them use it if they want to, as we old timers know it slows you down, so it's not really going to be an advantage to anybody that needs it.