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    Default The Wipeout HD Cup



    (c)novide/Kyonshi

    The Wipeout HD cup
    All the Legendary pilots, past & present, & for the first & last time in the history of wipeout...
    Reunited.
    "For the record"
    single race/Zone Battle
    KNOCK-OUT ROUNDS/DIRECT ELIMINATIONS
    THANKS YOU.

    =>THE ZONE<=
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    (TRIBUTE TO THE WOHDC PILOTS BY JJPAP, music:xpandrome, graphics:novide)
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    TEASER1 ====> (c)JJPAP(PROD)Unctuous(MUSIC), Novide(Logo+animated logo)
    TEASER2 (c)kanar(PROD)Novide(Logo+animated logo)
    TEASER3 (c)OBH(PROD)Novide(Logo+animated logo)

    CUP WALLPAPERS processed by novide, from various pilots HERE
    DETAILED RULES IN .PDF HERE

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    I'm in you crazy crazy pilot!

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    Definitely in. I'll contact a few of my online friends who I know don't come on here and were unaware of the first cup.

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    I'm up for this.

    But may I give a tip to the rules this time?

    Best of three, maybe? And fixed decider map?

    Edit: btw kanar. If you need help with anything, pm me. I could help if it's needed.

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    RACING LOGS REDIRECTIONS

    1St ROUND

    @ vulture
    Kigo1987 Vs DirtyWaffle HERE
    Zoth-Ommog Vs Metakraken HERE
    drr1984 Vs Emix21 HERE
    Deepmix Vs Afuroky HERE
    Indoorsnowstorm Vs Blinky77 HERE + HERE
    Aka-sho Vs Capitankiros HERE
    Erich123 Vs Meesiash HERE
    Wreckedge Vs Xifdo HERE
    eRZed Vs xdjope HERE
    Tar-Elendil Vs Kanar HERE
    Amplificated Vs Damigisan HERE + HERE
    Rezatron Vs MiguelX69 (6-0)
    skrotos32 => FASTPATH
    Jpa2097 Vs Catanterz HERE
    Vartazian Vs Matplayer1 HERE
    Shindubhe & Radiumx were both MIA.
    @ owl
    Danterich Vs NielsB90 HERE
    Skynet_t_x Vs Kat-kun HERE
    Tiduch Vs Carleo76 HERE
    TarquinFarqhuar Vs Novaharvest HERE
    Miizu3 Vs oX_mima_Xo HERE
    DreamyElf Vs FalcoPelle HERE
    DrMannevond Vs Laeke HERE
    Kaori714 Vs Xtriko HERE + HERE
    Ericd7m Vs Concrete_d HERE + HERE
    Lord_Rushton Vs SpaceboyG HERE + HERE
    Triboy Vs Connavar HERE + HERE
    DialGiX => FASTPATH
    Shapealot Vs Trinity17 HERE
    Fyue3 => FASTPATH
    GrzesPL => FASTPATH
    Freeman1021 => FASTPATH
    @ eagle
    dariusz1230 Vs Kurlija HERE
    Hellfire_wz Vs Pahlan HERE
    Ace-Flo Vs DividedXzero HERE
    G-Superpilot Vs Mm83944 HERE
    Jasmin_jade Vs zubr_z_puszczy HERE + HERE
    Bazzman32 Vs Haiku_ HERE
    SaturnReturn Vs TheGermanOne HERE
    QjonPL Vs Zelda093 HERE
    Halecon Vs Silverfoxy HERE
    ShawnFrecle Vs Disruptor-Wz HERE
    Stinkleroy Vs ID_ArsNova HERE
    Unctuous Vs shiza_brownpants HERE
    Skylar-69 Vs Laubzega HERE
    Leungbok Vs N4SS3TT3 HERE
    CHEE5E2EE Vs Elhabib HERE
    Enterrulez & RageousX were both MIA.
    @ buzzard
    Wellington86 Vs Mic-dk900 HERE+HERE
    P_Denton Vs PafDuck HERE
    Cyberio Vs Rubix42 HERE+ HERE
    Luxoflux Vs Colonel__Gaddafi HERE
    Greenix Vs Oryx_Crake HERE + HERE + VIDZ
    Zero3growlithe Vs Rychu130 HERE
    Morfeo378 Vs Hacenetchik HERE
    Elois-13 Vs Chalovak HERE
    ONlocke Vs Novide HERE + HERE + VIDZ
    Bombel2000 Vs Meltant (4-3)
    Lolode1978 Vs Fabimus (4-3)
    Imre92 => FASTPATH
    krzysztof1999 => FASTPATH
    Blackwiggle Vs Abukii HERE
    Gamekyuubi Vs Huteer HERE + HERE
    Texasalex => FASTPATH
    @ hawk
    Annoying_Git Vs D1GGER HERE
    DJM1ZW1Z Vs Chaos80 HERE
    OBH Vs robe-94 HERE
    Reezellthia Vs Storm_FF HERE
    Anderkovver Vs Nhaa123 HERE
    Feisar31 Vs AIR-HEAD33 HERE
    SpeedKang96 Vs archie500 HERE
    Billychanxtr33m Vs Northern7 HERE
    JJPAP Vs MegaGeeza22 HERE + HERE + VIDZ
    Kyonshi Vs Killer_kid HERE
    Challenger001 Vs TarotCardKiller HERE
    Klocki_Lego Vs Asayyeah HERE + HERE
    Kingheim Vs Maradonna74 (4-3)
    Z1r0rEi Vs VENEZUELA70 HERE
    Greif => FASTPATH
    SpinningGenius => FASTPATH
    @ falcon
    Lizzy-13 Vs Docterfeelgood HERE
    Flaflasat Vs Assassin900 HERE+ HERE
    IDReaper Vs Plazarou HERE
    KGB1971 Vs HamsterPL HERE
    JFthebestJan Vs Aresgracz HERE
    Alteregorr Vs Infoxicated HERE + HERE
    Frailavi Vs MrOrbital HERE
    Yeldar2097 Vs Kundox1 HERE + VIDZ
    Under_the_mayo Vs Lastchancer HERE
    Amorbis Vs Someguy789 HERE + HERE
    Albez93 Vs Tomcatziggy HERE
    Chesterknight Vs Slowtrain HERE
    Narren Vs ShellNewbie HERE
    Expitarius => FASTPATH
    Mad-Ice => FASTPATH
    DJTechno => FASTPATH
    @ merlin
    Woopzilla Vs MrPhlanJ HERE + HERE
    Kittun Vs Brainbeat HERE
    Mikrucio Vs Stin_wz HERE
    Golgofier Vs Maryconcy HERE + HERE
    Temet79 Vs Dasio_Pl HERE
    Javariko Vs Phaeton_pl HERE
    TheBulletDodger7 Vs SilverSword95 HERE
    Bart_Mdma Vs Slimjim2097 HERE
    Peh-Hok Vs Anerare HERE + HERE + VIDZ
    Wotan998 Vs Treatztma HERE + HERE
    XBARNSTERX Vs Ferald69 HERE
    Il_mago_di_doz Vs R3BU5ER HERE + HERE
    DeathJester87 => FASTPATH
    Dobyblue Vs Hycran HERE
    Pirhapac Vs Gordo31874 HERE + VIDZ + VIDZ + VIDZ
    Nutcase259 Vs Kihkoo HERE
    @ Kestrel
    AiiRW0LF Vs Miss-78 HERE + VIDS
    CHRIS-_REDFIELD Vs SILICONE_BLONDE HERE
    Adolfl7 Vs LinearNotion HERE
    Constrictor4U Vs Tragedia3 HERE + HERE
    Ichigo17 Vs Jeegee HERE
    Dark_Phantom_89 Vs Onbac HERE + VIDZ
    Andybob35 Vs Bjoern92 HERE
    Jan709 Vs Kodeks HERE
    Zabijaka Vs Dieeeeee HERE
    Ace3cube Vs TwitchySpitfire HERE + VIDZ
    Mr_L07h4R Vs Nerejeh HERE
    Jodiroga Vs TorquedSoul HERE
    Tug_14 Vs Sick_Martin HERE
    Luna_Bgd => FASTPATH
    UB3R-BR3NDAGE => FASTPATH
    SonicChaosX => FASTPATH

    SECOND ROUND

    @ owl
    Danterich Vs Skynet_t_x HERE
    Tiduch Vs Shapealot HERE
    Ericd7m Vs DreamyElf HERE + VIDZ
    Kaori714 Vs Lord_Rushton HERE
    TarquinFarqhuar Vs Freeman1021 HERE
    Fyue3 Vs Grzespl HERE
    DrMannevond => FASTPATH
    Triboy => FASTPATH
    @ falcon
    Yeldar2097 Vs Frailavi HERE
    IDReaper => FASTPATH
    Flaflasat Vs Albez93 HERE
    Mad-Ice Vs Amorbis HERE + HERE
    Chesterknight Vs Lizzy-13 HERE
    KGB1971 Vs Narren HERE
    DJTechno => HERE (Fastpass)
    JFthebestJan Vs Expitarius HERE + HERE
    @ Hawk
    Klocki_Lego Vs Reezellthia HERE
    billychanxtr33m Vs Challenger001 HERE + HERE
    JJPAP Vs Feisar31 HERE + HERE + HERE
    Anderkovver Vs Kyonshi HERE + HERE
    OBH Vs Annoying_Git HERE
    Speedkang96 => FASTPATH
    SpinningGenius => FASTPATH
    Kingheim Vs Greif HERE
    @ Eagle
    Ace-Flo Vs Unctuous HERE
    Jasmin_Jade Vs Leungbok HERE + HERE + HERE
    QjonPL Vs Hellfire_wz HERE + HERE
    G-Superpilot Vs Dariusz1230 HERE
    SaturnReturn Vs Halecon HERE + WOOOW
    Shawnfrecle => FASTPATH
    bazzman32 Vs CHEE5E2EE HERE
    Skylar-69 Vs Stinkleroy HERE
    @ Kestrel
    Dark_Phantom_89 Vs UB3R-BR3NDAGE HERE + HERE + HERE
    Aiirw0lf Vs Adolfl7 HERE
    Constrictor4U Vs Ichigo17 HERE
    Luna_bgd Vs Jan709 HERE + HERE
    Ace3cube Vs SonicChaosX HERE
    Andybob35 Vs Jodiroga HERE + HERE
    Chris-_redfield Vs Mr_L07H4R HERE
    Tug_14 => FASTPATH
    @ Merlin
    Bart_Mdma Vs TheBulletDodger7 HERE + HERE
    Woopzilla Vs Temet79 HERE + HERE
    Javariko Vs Kittun HERE + HERE + VIDZ + HERE
    XBARNSTERX Vs mikrucio HERE
    Nutcase259 Vs Wotan998 HERE + HERE
    Peh-hok Vs Golgofier HERE + HERE
    Pirhapac => FASTPATH
    Il_mago_di_doz => FASTPATH
    @ Vulture
    Drr1984 Vs Deepmix HERE
    Aka-sho Vs Wreckedge HERE
    Tar-Elendil Vs ERZed HERE
    Skrotos32 Vs Jpa2097 HERE
    Vartazian Vs IndoorSnowStorm HERE
    Rezatron => FASTPATH
    Amplificated Vs Kigo1987 HERE + HERE
    Erich123 Vs Zoth-Ommog HERE
    @ Buzzard
    Morfeo378 Vs P_denton HERE
    Zero3growlithe Vs Wellington86 HERE
    ONlocke Vs Blackwiggle HERE + HERE
    Texasalex Vs Greenix HERE + HERE
    Bombel2000 Vs Imre92 HERE
    Lolode1978 Vs Cyberio HERE
    Luxoflux Vs Krzysztof1999 HERE
    Elois-13 => FASTPATH
    ROUND 3

    @ Falcon
    Yeldar2097 Vs Mad-Ice HERE + HERE
    Chesterknight Vs KGB1971 HERE
    JFthebestJan Vs Flaflasat HERE + HERE
    IDReaper Vs DJTechno HERE
    @ Kestrel
    Aiirw0lf Vs Constrictor4u HERE + HERE
    Dark_Phantom_89 Vs Andybob35 HERE + HERE + VIDZ
    Luna_bgd Vs Ace3cube HERE + HERE
    Chris-_Redfield Vs Tug_14 HERE
    @ Hawk
    Speedkang96 Vs Anderkovver HERE + HERE
    Billychanxtr33m Vs JJPAP HERE + HERE + HERE
    Klocki_Lego Vs SpinningGenius HERE
    OBH => FASTPATH
    @ owl
    Kaori714 => FASTPATH
    Tiduch Vs DrMannevond HERE + HERE
    Ericd7m Vs TarquinFarqhuar HERE + HERE
    Fyue3 Vs Triboy HERE
    @ Merlin
    Woopzilla Vs Nutcase:259 HERE
    XBARNSTERX Vs Peh-Hok HERE + HERE + HERE
    Bart_Mdma Vs Pirhapac
    Il_mago_di_doz Vs Javariko HERE + HERE
    @ Vulture
    Amplificated Vs Aka-sho HERE + HERE
    Skrotos32 Vs Tar-Elendil HERE
    drr1984 Vs erich123 HERE + HERE
    Rezatron => FASTPATH
    @ Eagle
    Jasmin_Jade Vs Skylar69 HERE
    G-Superpilot Vs QJonPL HERE + HERE + HERE
    Bazzman32 Vs Ace-Flo HERE
    ShawnFrecle Vs SaturnReturn HERE + HERE
    @ Buzzard
    Zero3growlithe Vs Bombel2000 HERE
    Texasalex Vs Onlocke HERE
    Morfeo378 Vs Luxoflux HERE
    Elois-13 & lolode were both MIA.


    ROUND 4

    @ Owl
    Tiduch Vs Ericd7m HERE + HERE
    Fyue3 Vs Kaori714 HERE
    @ Kestrel
    Dark_Phantom_89 Vs Chris-_Redfield HERE + HERE + VIDZ
    Luna_Bgd Vs Aiirw0lf HERE + HERE
    @ Merlin
    Bart_mdma Vs Il_mago_di_doz HERE + HERE
    Woopzilla => FASTPATH
    @ Hawk
    Speedkang96 Vs Klocki_lego HERE + HERE
    Billychanxtr33m => FASTPATH
    @ Falcon
    Yeldar2097 Vs Chesterknight HERE
    JFTheBestJan Vs IDReaper HERE
    @ Vulture
    Skrotos32 => FASTPATH
    Rezatron Vs Drr1984 HERE + HERE
    @ Eagle
    Bazzman32 Vs G-Superpilot HERE
    Jasmin_Jade => FASTPATH
    @ Buzzard
    Zero3growlithe => FASTPATH
    Texasalex Vs Morfeo378 HERE

    OWL FINALS : Tiduch Vs Fyue3 HERE
    KESTREL FINALS : Dark_Phantom_89 Vs Luna_Bgd HERE + HERE
    EAGLE FINALS : Bazzman32 Vs Jasmin_Jade HERE
    FALCON FINALS : Yeldar2097 Vs JFThebestJan HERE + HERE + HERE
    VULTURE FINALS : Skrotos32 Vs Rezatron HERE
    MERLIN FINALS : Woopzilla Vs Bart_Mdma HERE + HERE
    BUZZARD FINALS : Texasalex Vs Zero3growlithe HERE
    HAWK FINALS : Speedkang96 Vs Billychanxtr33m HERE + HERE + HERE

    QUARTER FINALS

    Skrotos32 (ITA) Vs Yeldar2097 (HOL) HERE + HERE
    Texasalex (GER) Vs Woopzilla (UK) HERE
    Tiduch (POL) Vs Speedkang96 (SWE) HERE + HERE + HERE
    Bazzman32 (UK) Vs Dark_Phantom_89 (UK) HERE + HERE + HERE

    SEMI-FINALS
    Skrotos32 (ITA) Vs Bazzman32 (UK) HERE + HERE
    Texasalex Vs Tiduch HERE + HERE + HERE

    FINALS
    Skrotos32 Vs Texasalex HERE + HERE + HERE


    Runner Up : Tiduch Vs Bazzman32 HERE + HERE
    Last edited by kanar; 6th September 2011 at 05:32 AM.

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    With best of three, I mean, you pick one map, and your opponent picks one map, and the third and last is the decider map, which may or may not be fixed.

    Same rules, just simplified.

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    Hi in the race Chesterknigth VS Lizzy-13
    Winner is Chesterknigth
    Chesterknigth 6
    Lizzy 0
    Good luck see u (^,,^)

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    ohh yea you know im in

    ill fly till they ship can fly any more or there isnt enough bood pulsing through me to hit the accelerator

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    I think going from allowing 3 ZBs to allowing just 1 is a bit radical. If 2 of 3 races are going to have to be single races, 5 of 7 plays will be single races. The better single racer has a huge chance of winning that.

    Here's what I suggest. You basically only have 2 options:

    Racer set-up
    Single Race - Weapons ON - Track A
    Single Race - Weapons OFF - Track B
    Zone Battle - Track C


    or

    Zoner set-up
    Single Race - Weapons ON/OFF - Track A
    Zone Battle - Track B
    Zone Battle - Track C


    Let's go through all 3 possible match-ups:

    Racer vs. Racer
    You will have 5 single races and 2 zone battles. That's fair, I think, since it's a racer vs. racer match-up. The mode they both like most is played 5 out of 7 times, but they do need to show a bit of their Zone skills in the remaining 2. Well balanced, no?

    Racer vs. Zoner
    In this one you get 3 zone battles and 3 races during regular play. Then if it is undecided, the game goes to a deciding race on Anulpha Pass. Still, Anulpha Pass isn't a particularly hard track (in fact, the easiest) and I'm sure every Zoner knows their way around Anulpha. So if it should end 3-3 it will be a pretty fair deciding race.

    Zoner vs. Zoner
    Here we have 4 zone battles and 2 races during regular play. Meaning the zoners can play their beloved game mode but they do need to play at least 2, and if it is then still undecided, 3 single races.

    Every 'set-up' needs to contain 3 different tracks [A, B, C]. Player 1's choice of tracks is irrelevant to player 2's choices. This means player 2 can also pick [A, B, C] if he wants to. But a combination [A, C, E] or 3 whole new tracks [D, E, F] is of course allowed. The ONLY condition is that every player picks 3 different tracks.

    A player is not stuck to the 'pack' for the whole tournament. Rather, the player chooses the set-up he wants for that particular match. This means you can switch between Racer and Zoner during the tournament. Of course, you're not stuck to the tracks you choose either.

    Finally, indeed, this means that players who do not have Fury cannot participate. But I think there's no other way. If the non-Fury players were to be allowed into the tourny, there would be match-ups in which solely single races are played, and no ZBs at all. Sorry, but I'm sure we all want a bit of diversity. 7 single races is simply too tedious.

    In that case, because of the exclusion of the non-Fury pilots, I think we should aim for 128 players.

    Feel free to comment on this proposal...
    Last edited by Jav; 27th September 2010 at 02:54 AM.

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    I understand what you are trying to say Jav, but truly, I do not see the point, so let me get this straight:

    Old rules:

    Racer Vs Racer: 7 single races <---------- (If they really want to)

    Zoner Vs Zoner: 6 zone battles and 1 single race <---------- (Again, if they really want to)

    Racer Vs Zoner: 4 single races and 3 zone battles

    Your rules:

    Racer Vs Racer: 5 single races and 2 zone battles <---------- (If these guys want to play 7 single races, why shouldn't they be able to?)

    Zoner Vs Zoner: 3 single races and 4 zone battles <---------- (If these guys want to play 6 zone battles and 1 single race, why shouldn't they be able to?)

    Racer Vs Zoner: 4 single races and 3 zone battles <---------- (See any similarity with the old rules?)

    If I understood your rules correctly, this is what I get.

    As I said, I understand what you are trying to do, but it just doesn't work for me. The result of doing it your way would simply be; to force diversity into other peoples games, when they can have more fun by deciding what to play themselves.

    Only good thing I see from it, is that the racers would get some much needed zone battle practice.

    Just my 5 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ONlock View Post
    I understand what you are trying to say Jav, but truly, I do not see the point, so let me get this straight:

    Old rules:

    Racer Vs Racer: 7 single races <---------- (If they really want to)

    Zoner Vs Zoner: 6 zone battles and 1 single race <---------- (Again, if they really want to)

    Racer Vs Zoner: 4 single races and 3 zone battles

    Your rules:

    Racer Vs Racer: 5 single races and 2 zone battles <---------- (If these guys want to play 7 single races, why shouldn't they be able to?)

    Zoner Vs Zoner: 3 single races and 4 zone battles <---------- (If these guys want to play 6 zone battles and 1 single race, why shouldn't they be able to?)

    Racer Vs Zoner: 4 single races and 3 zone battles <---------- (See any similarity with the old rules?)

    If I understood your rules correctly, this is what I get.

    As I said, I understand what you are trying to do, but it just doesn't work for me. The result of doing it your way would simply be; to force diversity into other peoples games, when they can have more fun by deciding what to play themselves.

    Only good thing I see from it, is that the racers would get some much needed zone battle practice.

    Just my 5 cents.
    They shouldn't be able to because I thought we had all agreed on the fact we wanted to reward the all-round pilots? In my set-up you need to be able to perform in both game modes. Also, I would like to point out a difference in the Racer vs. Zoner one. It may look the same but it isn't. In "my" rules the Zoner picks 2 ZB tracks and 1 race track. He will most likely pick his best race track and so he has a chance of winning it. The racer will also pick his favourite ZB map so that he also has a chance of winning it. In the old rules however, the ZB would pick 3 ZB tracks and the racer would pick his 3 race tracks, making it harder for the Zoner to win a race (and vica versa) because it may not be his favourite race track. In my rules it's more balanced.

    It is balanced, it's fair, it's all-round and most of all, it's simple. YES there is gonna a lot of Racer vs. Racer match-ups but they should at least have to play Zone Battle so that being all-round would be rewarded, right? I thought that much was clear.

    But apparently not. I can't say I'm feeling a lot of sympathy from you guys for the Zone Battle mode in general. I ask all of you, do we want to reward all-round players? Because you might as well scrap ZB entirely if the answer to that is no.

    Kanar:

    By seeing Weapons ON and Weapons OFF as two different modes, you can have a 7-race match-up. If that's really what you want to allow, then okay. Also, 'racers' have the advantage in this scenario: 3 races is possible but 3 zone battles is not.
    Sooo... we go from agreeing on the fact we want to reward all-round pilots, to a potential 7-race match-up.
    All that within just 24 hours...

    Make it:

    Both players have to pick at least two different modes, the modes being:

    Single Race
    Zone Battle
    Last edited by Jav; 27th September 2010 at 10:43 AM.

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    I see your point about people who don't have the Fury DLC obviously not being able to play in ZB races, but I don't think they should be denied a chance to play in the WC based solely on that reason, mainly because ZB is played by so few who do have Fury anyway.

    We could stipulate in the promotion that it is strongly recommended that anybody wishing to enter the WC have the Fury DLC, so that if the opponent they are drawn against requests ZB as their selection, then they are obliged to either get the Fury DLC and compete or forfeit those races.

    There's two decisions we could make with this that would make matters clear cut.
    1] At least one Zone Battle race is to be selected and raced by each player [no opting out of this] = Fury DLC required for entry.
    Problem arises when neither player likes ZB, which I can see happening quite a bit, plus it would deter possible entry into the tournament from people who read that they have to race at least 2 ZB races when it this race mode holds no interest for them, or they don't have or want to get the Fury DLC.

    So basically IMHO it's a bad call if you want to attract pilots into the WC by making ZB mandatory or Fury DLC ownership for that matter.

    2]Then you have the more relaxed option, if you can race Zone Battle at the request of your drawn opponent then you are obliged to accept the challenge.
    Same goes for Fury tracks generally, if you draw somebody who doesn't have the pack but your choice was from it, well tough luck, plenty of other HD tracks to choose from.

    Most people will have Fury anyway, so I think it would be very rare for this problem to occur, plus we are not alienating potential contestants from the start by making the tournament more relaxed in structure.
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    wooo count me in!

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    I missed the Avalon Cup but i would love to take part in this,so count me in!
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    Get djKyoto involved

    I cant have wipeout and banter without him

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    hi kanar, anderkovver also want to participate, a greeting

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    You'd be lucky if you got a response from djKyoto, he never answers PSN messages, plus he must have a job now because I seldomly see him online, and even then it's only for very brief periods, unlike previously when it seemed he was on 24/7.

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    Might need to get drastic. Im sure if i go round his house, and slap the cowboy in the face he'll get the message

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    Ace introduced me to a real ZB king a few weeks ago - P_Denton, and I along with Elf, Phantom and Luri all had a few races against him just a few hours ago. We're trying to convince him to join the cup, but with the 72-hr constraint it won't work, because he can only play on the weekends. :/ Shame, he's a great guy and would make a great opponent.

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    Ah ye I know the guy. He's pretty good, had some races with him a while ago, I only just got the better of him. Sign him up.

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