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    what about the fake id brigade who play in a room and win a game cos they were lucky run away instantly then come back on in a different id and lose like normal..thats so funny when you know its the same player and you send them a text saying hi and good games but accidently say there last user id name instead of their current one they are using..

    or howabout the players who get beat slag you off with rude texts then change id's come back in then pretend to be your friend..

    all these types of activities and you thought wipeout was just simple racing....

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    I couldn't even find a phantom race today, first time I've logged in in a very long time but everything was elim or flash/venom which is bah. The one rapier race I did make it in didn't have anyone who could compete, won twice by 10 seconds and I'm not fast compared to most ppl on this forum.

    I also waited in a server that was running a phantom tourny, but it was on the 5/7 race so I decided to wait it out. Tourny finishes and host switches it to elim......RAGE!!!!!!!!

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    I personnaly agree with Kyonshi's initial post.
    I didn't read the fighting posts after, don't care about them
    That's all for me.

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    That's very arrogant of you Temet, oh well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by UB3R~JKP View Post
    ... if they can't handle pilots who want to make a room more of a challenge by trying to evening out the odds, no other two ways about it in my opinion.
    I disagree.

    What dropping the class does is offer the less skilled host a little more control over the ship which may or more likely as I have experienced may not make it any more competitive at all. They just get smashed at a slower more boring pace as the Phantom pilot is still better at navigating the track and quite possibly with the weapons too. The very reason I tend to drop out there no buzz to a race like that.

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    I disagree.

    Phantom pilots are bred for speed but rubbishing other classes is nothing short of pathetic...just cause you don't see the point doesn't mean it ain't there. If you come out of your "phantom master race club" tinted classes you may see that.

    Bit of a laugh you think phantom pilots are better than pilots who main other classes, wonder what JJ will have to say...

    Also, are you saying Mini cup drivers are less skilled overall in comparison to F1 drivers in hindsight?

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    This has been covered a little before here

    It does leave a wry smile on your face when things like this start happening. Personally It winds me up a bit if someone plays a track over and over until they win and then move on to another track. It's is if they are waiting for what they consider the right result to occur and all other results previously were erroneous.

    Shifting up in speed annoys me more than dropping speed classes, this is where they usually do the start-straight-away trick. You get the feeling that they are chuckling to themselves 'he he, I fooled them, losers'.

    All this is based on what I think is true of course the reality may be different.

    Remember: Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you .

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    Quote Originally Posted by UB3R~JKP View Post
    I disagree. If you come out of your "phantom master race club" tinted classes you may see that.
    heey Rapier is retired anyway no? Plasma dude, should be great to see you online more often!

    UB3R, I agree there, & would have been awesome if JF took a little of his time to show us his skills at the cup. I don't know exactly what mini cup is; but I would compare venom & phantom with karting & F1 myself. As I'm used to phantom, I feel venom like a slow motion movie. But the fact I'm feeling like neo in the matrix doesn't prevent me at all to face a Smith agent (yeah JJPAP I'm using again my dumb analogy I served you recently ah ah) and deeply eat the dust. Because my reflexes are based on phantom speed, and my br spots, more important, are based on phantom speed too; what I'm trying to say is venom, flash and rapier (regular) users have a slight advantage compared to phantom pilots only, as they know more (useful) br spots. And they're used to this speed more than an exclusive phantom junkie.
    But hey, Ayrton Senna didn't make his entire carreer into karting

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    I started playing wipeout on phantom.my attitude to other speed classes was if its not phantom you are rubbish and unskilled..only phantom mattered all non phantom players are rubbish.
    Luckily for me i do not have this total crap incorrect attitude anymore.
    now i have played all speeds i have realised lower speed players use different skills.i have played and beaten good phantom players on slow speeds but have lost to phantom players who can play all speeds as all phantom players cannot compete at all speeds.same as venom only players can play phantom.

    Trashing low speeds is not right.miss a pad on venom and you lose the game miss a pad on phantom and it makes little difference

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    Something striking me is that, except the fact i may brought my point in a mistaken way, most people find it annoying and lame that some players may shift down Classes and start-right-away, while i was criticized to over-think it all

    Anyway, i'd beg to differ from UBER~JKP and agree with Rapier Racer.

    We cannot deny the fact that most beginners play lower speed Classes and most experienced play at least Rapier and higher. Now i've seen a lot of low rank players trying their luck on Phantom and quickly realizing they can't fit in there for the time being. They will retro-grade to lower Classes. Kinda confirms what Rapier Racer said. Slower speed means better control for less experienced pilots.

    Phantoms pilots may find this a bit boring and can legitimately assert so. On the other hand, i firmly believe that, based on personal experience and observations done through 2 years of playing, Phantom players still have the upper hand whatever Class they play into.

    If you try to be a race technician at least a bit, you easily adapt yourself and still point out where the BR spots are and where those can't be performed the same way as in Phantom, if not possible at all. Reaction time of Phantom players are inevitably more developped than those of Flash or Venom. Playing at Phantom Class kinda puts you into sort of trance, getting yourself concentrated and navigating in the most surgical way to grab Speed pads and at the same time managing pick-ups. What's the result then when you play on lower Classes? You race while your mind steps back and can take more time to analyze what's going on. Having your anticipation senses sharpened on Phantom does logically make you a better pilot on lower Classes, and i believe this can also be applied and observed.

    I played a lot of races on Venom yesterday. I mostly never do that but there was so few rooms to play and i wanted to race anyway. I won most of them with the Spare Time badge. I don't what does this mean to you people but i kinda see it like Rapier Racer does

    This said, i think its wrong to tend to see Phantom players as up-tight people who despise the lower Classes. As far as i'm concerned, i take nothing for granted, anything can happen, anything is possible. But the facts are there and can be observed. To everyone what fits them best, but nothing convinced me yet that an everyday Venom pilot can race adequately in Phantom.
    Last edited by Kyonshi; 8th September 2010 at 04:34 PM.

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