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    Talking Do all icaras players hate using weapons?

    Apologies if theres a thread like this, but i couldnt find/remember one.

    Naturally different people prefer different race modes, whatever it my be, but has anyone else noticed the large majority of players who dislike using weapons during multiplayer races are icaras players?

    Im not having a go here , It makes perfect sense really, its the fastest ship, its low shield means much absorbing for BR fuel , and being the SL/TT king many players will be very much accustomed to racing with no weapons.

    The bit that confuses me the most however, is im surprised how many people flat out refuse to use a weapon at all!!! Weather it be they feel guilty, or believe they are fast enough to not need to use weapons.

    While Id totally agree with anyone who says winning a race with no weapons is 10x more difficult, personally ive always believed weapons require far more skill than they're generally given credit for (bar the infuriating bombs & mines of course), and as ive never really wanted to use icaras, ive always needed to be aware of this crazy fast ship that in the right hands is very, very difficult to beat with my mediocre racing lines alone.

    But yeah, I was wondering you guys think of this? icaras and non icaras players alike. Think im talking rubbish?
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    Yes

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    While I hate using weapons, I don't use the Icaras online at all. I do like using it in SL though!

    I think it's possibly players that like SL moreso than just the Icaras itself who dislike weapons.

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    @amplificated
    I always presumed liking SL/TT & Icaras goes hand for most people?
    Why dont you like them online out of interest. My guess would be the shield.

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    yes you agree, or yes im talking rubbish?

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    I don't use it online because I think most newbs think it's "the win ship". So I prove I can beat them with anything else, even if it's all unsaid or even made up in my own mind
    Which ship you use is a bigger deal in the slower speed classes, and I just about never race in Phantom - rather, mostly rapier; but lately, I haven't been playing online at all. Actually, when it comes to Phantom, I don't think ship choice matters much at all really... Depends on technique followed by the luck of the draw with items, and to a lesser extent, the track. I guess on Sebenco, the Icaras would be less favoured than a ship with more shields and better handling.

    Online is also a handy opportunity to rack up points for other teams since I've probably made over a million points if it counted that high for Icaras

    Shields don't bother me in the slightest, I hardly ever get actually eliminated in a race no matter what ship I use, and BR's always take up the same % of energy. The tracks aren't nearly as demanding in rapier as they are in phantom.

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    Here let me give you the typical narrative of an Icaras pilot that isn't yeldar2097, wizardplay, w5lx, danteric, or concrete_d but somehow still manages to place top 3 often enough:

    "Oh no I am not at the very front of the starting grid I have no hope of grabbing the first pick up and I since I don't have the thrust to get me out ahead in time. I guess I will just rely on the first speed pad to keep up with everyone!"

    "Whew, glad I hit that pad and am in the pack, oh wait now everyone has weapons and I am getting missiles, rockets, and quakes up my ass. Oh cool now a bomb too."

    "hm what a predicament for my poor Icaras craft as I am 2/3rds through the first lap and am at 50% health from getting my face beaten in and rammed into every objectg that happens to be vertically sticking up from the track."

    "finally, I am hitting some pick-ups, I better get my health back up so I can start using BRs every chance I get to try and make my way back to the podium".

    So it's not that I hate using weapons, it's that I never have the opportunity because I am usually using them to heal because my hello kitty colored ground rocket can't take first lap punishment from the harimau's, AG-Sys, and goteki's of the world. I'm willing to admit I am still doing something very wrong as my best times are usually in the top 200 and occasionally I break the top 100, and I play with some of the best of WOZ pilots often enough and see them finish in the top 30 using Icaras with plenty of weapons.

    As an aside to this long and uninteresting post: I am considering moving away from Icaras because of this recurrent experience of getting rammed and shot up too much. I beat the entire HD/Fury campaigns on elite gold with AG-Sys and maybe I should go back to that or Harimau. I'm honest enough to admit that it's the Icaras top speed that gets me on the podium so it's addicting to keep using.

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    I don't really think it matters that much which ship one chooses to use online. It's just that, a choice.

    Feisar ain't fast (esp pre-fury) and Welly caned most people . As did wowo with his AG-SYS. As did *Insert PSN* with his *Insert Ship*.

    Same with weps really, some choose to use them, some choose not to. I only started using weps recently. Can't really say it makes that much difference to be honest, not in the long run at least.

    That aside, there are deffers some Icaras pilots who are weapons-crazed-trigger-happy-maniacs ^_^

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    Well described haiku, sounds like me When I am racing on phantom,

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    i use icaras+ and i never really fire a shot as ive said somewhere before i need all the energy i can get for BRs, it is fun to fire a few at youre friends though when theyre not expecting it. personally i think the online leaderboards dont mean much anyway as its based on luck of the weapons or boosts, surely if it was just about weapons then why have a leaderboard at all. in all honesty i use online to have fun tryna do all the fun BRs but thats just me i suppose. do whatever brings a smile to youre face

    edit: im not tryna get any online records at all never have
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    I pilot both Icaras and mainly AG online, and before some crazy patch hit this game last year I had absolutely no problems with weapons at all. But now I loathe to use them. Yes I know the game is called 'WipEout', yes I know weapons are and always have been part of the game but this game is FUBAR. I come from a 2097 background in which weapons were meant only to kill your shields...not slow you down to a complete halt and take at least 5 seconds to get going again....I mean come on, thats just ridiculous. The weapon randomisation is insane also, Ive gone through a 20 lap online race and recieved countless mines and bombs yet only 3 turbos!! WTH I don't recall this game being like this before June/July last year, and I really do feel that it was sony's intent to make the game easier for people to play.

    I guess people take different things from wipeout, but for me....it's about going fast. There's no feeling like overtaking someone in a race because your lines were better, I gain no sense of accomplishment from blasting my way to victory at all. And thats why I stay away from online these days. Too many people out for glory creating a horrible race environment. You know, I'd never even touched TT till last year and I played solely online since release day. That makes me kind of sad that I've had to let go of my favourite mode, but hey ho....green races rule and Im always up for a friendly green/no weaps challenge. This league was born because I'm not the only one who feels this way. And for the green haters...well a simple solution to the leaderboard times is to play green races at 6 or more laps. Simple....

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