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    now your just trying to be clever

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    Haydn, point well made... I was shouting Icaras LOL. And yeah, I get what you're saying too... but whatever the case, the Icaras ship is weak, if it starts out back, i'm giving it hell care not

    If i'm racing in one though - I got no one but myself to blame if I blow up straight as it is, i'm no sore loser... but if I win in one, I know one thing, I wouldnt have used as much weps as I would have in any other ship.. SO yes, in keeping with the thread title, I agree with you Haydn. That's just me. Are there others? unc already admitted he donesnt like to use them because he need his shield energy for BR's... it's a good point.

    What ship you choose to race with, does influence how you play the game. For example, gimme a Piranha, and I'll love to barge you sometime!!! Not with the Icaras tho

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    I understand your point, and agree with most, but lets try and not turn this into BR / Weapons flaming, somones already put "community bitchoff" as a tag

    I have griefs.... well, not 'griefs' as such, more annoyances at peoples misconceptions but can honestly say at no stage has anything 'ruined my experience'

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACE-FLO View Post
    What ship you choose to race with, does influence how you play the game.
    exactly what im saying, weather it be barging, shooting, or racing with no weapons
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    I'm sorry but nobody can be 'skilled' enough with random weapons to dominate a room time after time; the level of skill that the weapons allow for isn't anywhere near high enough. It plays a certain roll, but not a great one. You want weapons tactics, play Blur. If we were talking about that I'd wholeheartedly agree with you Kigo, but in Wipeout, no, sorry. It's not that there's no skill involved, it's just more common sense than anything else. People who don't use weapons can avoid weapons too.
    Anyway, they are deliberately NOT buggering up your race, what's there to complain about?

    Coming first in a Icaras because you think you use less weaps so you can BR? You can BR just as much in any ship. In fact, in an Icaras you'd need to absorb less to get more BRs because your shield % goes up by more per weapon than any other ship, so even though your shields are a bit rubbish, it doesn't really make much difference if you get shot because you can get back to 100% more easily. The only time it will make much difference is if you either in the melee at the start of a race and get unlucky, or if you're hovering around the 10-15% mark, in which case you won't be BRing at all.

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    Do all Icaras players hate using weapons? > I don't know about that, I'm not an Icaras player. However I'm fairly certain I would use them if I used Icaras.

    Now I'm gonna address a few points made in here (but only once)

    Are there ships that allow you to win more easily? > No. I don't believe so. What makes the good players win more easily is the fact that they are better players at the time of the races. The end. I won with Goteki and I think everyone will agree that this ship does not make it easy. But I still use it because of the reasons I chose it, and also because I'm one of the few left. I don't win often, sometimes being 3-4 against the best players, but then these players are better than me and so they win. Sometimes though I win against them, and I was better that time, this is simply how it works.

    Do weapons require skill? > Yes. Someone who knows how to use weapons more effectively will get more hits than people who don't. Knowing how to use weapons can grant you a victory. Yes indeed, it can. Some people have a problem with that, I can understand. But the name of the game is WipEout, and there are weapons. So in races where they are active, it's either use them strategically, or learn how to avoid them, but you cannot say that using weapons to win is a weakness. It is a strength to know how and when to use weapons. Using weapons is a mind game, you have to think how to put your current weapon to it's best use. If you can't, absorb and roll the dice when you pick another up.

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    i think icarus players dont use weapons as much as others because icarus is the favoured ship of TT and SL looking at the leaderboards so these players who are good with them have a plan of just flying perfectly around the track and have no need to shoot cos their are nobody to shoot also they need energy to absorb for their million and one BR..
    But the crap icarus players probally use lots of weapons cos they are losing cos they should of stuck to an easy ship..

    i like icarus but its too hard for me to use in phantom..im just not good enough..

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    I just deleted 46 posts from this thread because it was ridiculously off topic and went off topic from only the 2nd post. If I saw no attempt in the post to be relevant to the question about the relationship between Icaras and using weapons, then I deleted it. That means a lot of people will have wasted a lot of time writing a lot of stuff, some valuable, some not. Unfortunately everyone will just have to deal with that, and if they don't like it, then the answer is simple - stay on topic.

    I'd love to give people the benefit of the doubt and assume everyone will get back on topic eventually, but in this case, very few even tried to steer things back. This is happening in an increasing number of threads, and often it's the same individuals involved. I feel thoroughly disappointed about this, and henceforth, if things start going off-topic in such a way, especially when certain people are treating the forum like their own personal chat-box, then I'm just going to delete their posts. End of.

    EDIT: Make that 47 posts
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    /topic on/

    i'm an Icaras pilot and i'm using lots of nasty weapons.
    (sometimes even tactical, lol)
    Absorbing is another favorite of mine, but i just can't
    avoid a little bomb here and there...
    It depends on the mood and the beer-factor

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    @brmmpha thats cos your only a pretend icarus player...you are a assagia player using a icaras true assagai players like you love to blow things up...

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