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    I actually just did my first race in probably 2 months yesterday, I was expecting to be a lot worse then what I did. Now even before I stopped I was average at best, I can never keep up with most of the pilots from this board (Vart, TCK, looking at you specifically). I came first once (believe on Moa R), and a few seconds and thirds but primarly feel in the 4-7 category. I missed a lot of the BRs that I had down pat and Sol 2 reverse ate me for breakfast, but overall I felt I was competing. There were a couple of times that I held first or second and let myself down with some horrible flying, so I know i can still improve.
    Best part of the day was I landed two random plasmas both netting a kill and other then one case of quake + Missile + wall didn't have any rage worthy material. Considering I quit due to the rage i kept feeling (and school) I was happy.

    I will never keep up with the majority of you, but for the average or "human" pilots as I like to call them I'm hunting for you now.
    That and I can clean you all but shoqa on detonator so I have my happy place.

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    i played again for the first time in ages (so did haydn) and i was rubbish!! had a race with people i didnt know and it went ok, raced with ace3cube for one and lost (he is good isnt he) but i shamed myself against yeldar >< it was a one on one and i thought i would race in quirex because ive been racing as them in pulse but realy i just gave yeldar a chance to get a new world record at least before i could just about keep in sight of him but i think it would take some time for me to get back into it.

    well this was the only chance ill get to play untill i get a ps3 (and who knows when that will be) but i hope to fly with everyone again soon.

    -kieran

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    to be as good as i was hmmm maybe it takes me a couple of hours or days, it depends which game, if is wipeouthd then maybe a couple of days

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    Oh, man...I haven't played in months. I imagine if I started playing daily again, it would still take a couple of weeks to really get back in the groove...at LEAST.

    Hello to everyone, by the way! Miss you all!

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    Hi L&P, what have you done in the meantime?

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    Hey PS! I've been catching up on all the other games that have been sitting on my shelf. Played through Heavenly Sword, Bioshock, Mirror's Edge, GTA IV and Mass Effect...now I'm working my way through Tomd Raider: Underworld. Still have Devil May Cry 4, Metal Gear Solid 4, Dead Space, Gears of War 2, Saint's Row 2, Resident Evil 4 and Star Wars: The Force Unleashed on my shelf that I need to get to, as well! Man, I have a lot of work ahead of me...whew.

    Good hearing from you!

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    @L&P: Lucky guy! Well, I have to play catch-up on catch-up before catching
    up on other things. xD I even have to play UC2 ... damn. Anyways, my next
    game in line will be FF XIII. After that Heavy Rain, GoW III, and GT5. Something
    like that.

    On-topic: I haven't played for weeks (six or seven) but I got virtually no issues
    to come up speed again. My first run was on Metropia Reverse ZONE. To my
    surprise I was only about two zones away from the global record, first run. lol
    Got a nice tunnel vision. Sweet. After that I played a 12 random tourney,
    lost only one due to elimination.

    Quite interesting, staying away from the game for awhile may even improve
    one's racing skills since some fixed trained patterns (steering, visions etc.)
    aren't that strong. So you got a chance to readjust things.

    Playing WipEout HD Fury again showed me once again what an awesome game
    this is!

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    Nice! Like you, I'm really looking forward to playing Heavy Rain, GoW III and GT5! Should all be fantastic games!

    And I'm not surprised you were able to just jump back into WO after not playing for 6-7 weeks and dominate right off...you are a WO freak!

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    Heavy Rain, really looking forward to that.

    @topic: I made a simple graph for people to follow

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    Quoting myself;

    Quote Originally Posted by ProblemSolver View Post
    ... On-topic: I haven't played for weeks (six or seven) but I got virtually no
    issues to come up speed again. ...

    Quite interesting, staying away from the game for awhile may even improve
    one's racing skills since some fixed trained patterns (steering, visions etc.)
    aren't that strong. So you got a chance to readjust things. ...
    Yesterday was my first online sessions since weeks. According to my own advice
    I did something new. I did something I wanted do try out for quite some time
    now, i.e. using the dpad! Weeks ago I used the dpad for about a few days to
    see whether I could beat my stick-records. Not a chance. Not even remotely.
    Back then I somehow recognized that one can perform BRs faster and that the
    craft can be kept more stable while performing a BR. Anyways, I never really
    forced myself to use the dpad until yesterday. I thought; c'mon, lets use the
    dpad online and start all over again. I started playing from about 5am (GMT+1)
    to 3pm (!) and lost almost all races for about 6h. xD I even got some PMs
    from some guys asking me why I didn't hit most of the item pads anymore :rofl:
    I also have to say that I've changed my DS3 button assignment as well. About
    7h later things got started somehow. I really noticed how good the BRs work
    when being performed unter pressure. I was like; shiiit. For example, the
    possible BR on the Amphesium Reverse after the first turn down the straight was
    most often a pain with the stick. About 8h later I could perform this BR with
    about 90% success rate while keeping the craft stable (straight). Likewise
    with the BR before the mag strip. And from this point on I started to win
    races. I got somehow attached to the dpad. After about 9h of play time
    (straight!) some very good players joint the server (like fgdk, themother****er
    xD, ...). I was even able to beat them in some weapons off races using the dpad.
    (Weapons off? Yes, my hands started to hurt like crazy, I couldn't fire or
    absorb any weapons any longer xD; yeah, this was the reason I switched to
    weapons off, if anyone was just wondering). However, I reached a limit. Some of
    you may know the pain you receive once you're releasing the controller after a
    tough race while having played already for too long, right? xD So I stopped
    playing after about 10 hours. You have to remember, I haven't played for weeks!
    :rofl: Anyways, I wanted to know whether it's worth to use the dpad or not.

    Here are some things I've noticed while using the dpad in competitive racing
    (compared to the the stick);
    1. performing BRs is a huge advantage
    2. stable / smooth trajectory while performing a BR
    3. overall less steering => higher average speed
    4. better cornering on tight turns
    5. pitching can be performed more accurately due to the
      decoupling of the dpad's axis
    6. steering inputs can be performed much quicker, physically


    Despite I can be quite fast with the stick, I now think that I can go even
    faster with the dpad, in general. The biggest drawback of the stick, for me,
    is the BR thing. BRs work like a charm with the dpad.

    That the dpad works quite well is also a result of the fixed (low) velocity
    when compared to ZONE. However, the 'digital' behavior of the dpad becomes a
    disadvantage on very high speeds, since one cannot steer and control the craft
    fast enough with a (mostly) digital input device. But this isn't to say that
    you may not be able to run 160 zones on Syncopia using the dpad. It's just very
    unlikely. Mathematically, controlling a craft in a digital fashion would yield
    the optimal solution to an associated so-called control problem. This is against
    common beliefs and was found out by 'mathematics' back in the 1920 -- at the
    time where some mathematicians started to build functions space and relations
    to relate those spaces against each other to gain solutions to very difficult
    problems. Just in case you are interested; the mathematical topic that covers
    these kind of things is called functional analysis -- a wonderful branch of
    mathematics.
    Back on topic. Did you know that the US Space Shuttle is entirely controlled
    in a digital on/off fashion in space? That is to say; the valves are either
    open at full thrust or closed. Or have you ever been wondering about why a
    rabbit runs away in a zick-zack fashion while being hunted? It all comes down
    to optimal control. But we humans are simply not fast enough to perform such
    things, such that we can control it while performing it -- the action. Btw;
    just in case you wanna escape the police, do it in a zick-zack fashion! Yeah
    that's the best why to get away from someone who is right after you. Just ask
    the rabbit! Funny as it is, this techniques was already used in World War II.
    The superiority oft the German submarine, their maneuvering skills, are in part
    due to these insights. Most of the mathematical basis for functional analysis
    was founded in Europe, esp. in Germany where David Hilbert formulated the
    theory of the very important Hilbert spaces. Here is a quote from Wikipedia;

    "... David Hilbert (January 23, 1862 – February 14, 1943) was a German
    mathematician, recognized as one of the most influential and universal
    mathematicians of the 19th and early 20th centuries. He discovered and
    developed a broad range of fundamental ideas in many areas, including
    invariant theory and the axiomatization of geometry. He also formulated the
    theory of Hilbert spaces,[1] one of the foundations of functional analysis. ..."


    I wanna add that there were so many other great mathematicians (I can name
    most of them) from France, England, Poland, Russia, and Hungary -- just to
    name those few countries who played a big role in the foundation of functional
    analysis and still do!

    Back to earth....
    Am I going to play with the dpad from now on? Yes! I think I need to play for
    about one or two months at a 'daily' basis to max out the dpad. But
    unfortunately this is not going to happen since I haven't that much time to
    play the game for the next few months. But I hope someone may find this
    information here quite interesting and may as such get something out of it.
    For the time being I'm going to play just once in a while to chill to some
    fine music in ZONE mode.


    Edit: Do not misunderstand the phrase; "The superiority of the German
    submarine, ..."
    . It should be read as a pure technical thing.
    Last edited by ProblemSolver; 4th January 2010 at 09:47 AM.

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