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Thread: Excuses for losing & 1st place "bonuses"

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    I just dont understand the fuss.
    Im joining more & more rooms where i get a pm saying "boosts only please". no weapons, boosts only, and your all icaras? wheres the fun in that?

    i promptly leave.

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    If Hellfire does get lots of boosts, it's just because of the way he races. Based on his videos from out match the other day, he absorbs virtually everything instantly if he doesn't see a good chance to use it. He didn't seem to hang onto weapons much. So if you absorb absorb absorb, then you're more likely to get boosts. This is easier to do if you're in front because you're unlikely to have to save rockets to shoot out mines or bombs etc, or at least not as much. It's just a way of racing. If you get out in front well, you can afford to absorb until you get boosts. That's all IMO. Also, Hellfire posts videos of his races, so if he does get the occasional race with lots of boosts, we can all see it, whereas we can't with others.

    I do think it's a lot based on luck and a lot on lag - more so than it should be. I don't think there is any difference between players or ranks and the weapons the game gives.

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    I would love to experience the jackpot of boosts. Whenever I get out in front, a giant bullseye usually appears on the back of the harimau. And more often than not, I can't buy a shield.

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    "Somebody's beating me, so there must be something unfair going on!!?!?!"

    Same old story...

    ps, I think Saturn nailed it^^ - I agree totally. Same applies to Pulse and Pure.

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    The extrapolations made by brummpahh are somehow pushed too much to the extreme. I don't think there is some kind of favoritism towards hi-ranked players and top pilots. All is a matter of racing lines and pick-up management regarding their usefulness and strategic usage.

    BUT, as JaLK stated earlier, i do also confess and confirm that yes, when you're first, you bizarrely pick up more shot weapons than anything else. I've accumulated thousands of hours of play, and what was a simple coincidence to me now appears to be founded impressions, having experienced this many times myslef. Sure, pick-ups appearance and based on randomized respawns. In theory. Now it seems to me that there's something "calculated" depending on your position, like to give a chance to your pursuers so they can still have a good run... So, either im having bad luck all the time, which can't always be, or i'm passing on weapon pads at a precise frequency so i grab shot weapons all the time, which is ridiculous, taking in account that the game's pick-ups are random.

    That's just an observation i made playing WOHD online since that long. That's no excuse to justify a defeat. If i lose, it's because i played like a ****. In the end, maybe im completely wrong. But witnessing this issue many times now, its legitimate to question how the game's functioning, without falling in paranoia of course

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    I got the boost jackpot in AP Flash a couple days ago. I started to get a little freaked in a now don't screw up kind of way. When you have that many boosts, you end up using them in places you never expected, and that can really throw you off. The warping visual effect throws me off more than anything. I really don't like it.

    I ended up somewhere in the top 50, which I thought was pretty decent, given so many people know AP's BRs ex Zico, but then Rezatron beat me the next day. I told him well done and it took a lot not to follow that with, "you lucky bastard."

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    You can turn off the hud effects in the game options.

    Getting a great time on MP AP is just a matter of getting turbos before the first turn (BR chains) and before the bridge (BR onto or off of the bridge). I have the #1 or #2 MP Rapier time on AP which was done with 6 or 7 turbos (with FEISAR hehe, love seeing my FEISAR times in a sea of Icaras).

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    My comment was not an excuse for losing, it was just to say that "great" times
    now are much easier to achieve now than in the past, I had been playing WOHD
    for almost a year (before Fury) and maybe I had 2-3 races with 5 turbos when
    I was in front, usually I would receive mines/bombs/whatever, however right
    now I see more turbos.

    This was a response to OBH raving about his vineta record

    We know there is a probability to get a certain item, however the probability
    function is not flat, I'm sure you have more chances to get specific items under
    specific conditions, for example I'm 100% sure you have a lot more chance to
    get a shield after you hear "Quake", than any other item.

    Recently I also saw reach-big7 (a fantastic player) doing world-record like times
    race after race, and trust me, those times are not possible without many turbos
    So yeah 1 race sure, but 2-3-4 etc races like this ... this wasn't possible in
    the past. (comment about Hellfire is about the luck factor, nothing to do with
    his gameplay)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezatron View Post
    You can turn off the hud effects in the game options.
    That's only for the HUD, though. The boosts and turbos will still warp the outer edges of the screen and make the center appear further away. That's what I don't care for. I'd like my sense of proportion to be uninterrupted.
    Quote Originally Posted by Connavar View Post
    I'm 100% sure you have a lot more chance to
    get a shield after you hear "Quake", than any other item.
    Garbage. I feel like I have a very little chance, something approaching 1 out of 8.

    I would attribute players getting faster and faster MP times to their getting better at MP. In any case I'm even more puzzled why my Venom Moa MP time is so unbelievable, since it was post-Fury.

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    @Brmmphahh.

    Prove your theory. Create a new Psn I.D, race with it and video the difference in performance between your regular ID and new ID.

    Saying what you are saying without proof is that all good pilots are not really any good apart from the benifits they get from the online handicap system you are talking about. Not really a friend making topic around here without some hard proof.

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