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Thread: Excuses for losing & 1st place "bonuses"

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    Unhappy Excuses for losing & 1st place "bonuses"

    Lately ive had a few people say that they believe -

    A) since fury's come out the player in first is given "better weapons" as such, and
    B) That Higher ranked players recieve a "boost".....

    Here are the quotes, im interested in what you think.

    Quote Originally Posted by shhhhh! Im not allowed to tell anyone!! xD

    just a short impression why i think online competition is odd:

    just assume for a short moment that i'm
    right: a good pilot get's:
    - more speed
    - the right weapon just in time
    - HEAVIER impact of these weapons
    - more turbos
    - ramming priority

    this leaves only 2 conclusions:
    - competition against a good player is odd, u don't have a chance - you have to become a good player to compete

    you said it's an excuse 4 loosing and i say: i can handle loosing, otherwise i would quit WO playing.

    I can turn it other way round:
    when i play a weaker player:
    - i allways get a missile when he manages to overtake me
    - i overlap him without using br's,
    he br's like hell and has perfect laps
    - i can slow him down to halt, even
    with a light MG salve
    - i can fall off 2 times, drive like drunk
    and still win
    - i get more turbos when i'm behind
    - i even get 5 quakes or what it takes
    to stop him
    This is fact. I'm experiencing it every day.

    Since this is not programmed fair (don't blame me - blame SL), online competition is odd when the system regards one player "up" and the other "down".

    I know how to get "up" in WO.

    I don't mean online rank. It's rubbish. I mean "up" regarding the details i mentioned above.

    Of course like u and others, i can keep a good secret. It works. I'm not a better pilot than i was 12 weeks ago, but my "up" improved massively. Still not enough 2 compete top 20 :-))))) Still i don't know if i'd invest the time for that. There's a thing called life...

    Offline competition is fair, everyone has the same chances. this is why i can manage top 100 times at every track.

    The best at last: you are "up", so you don't have to worry how to get there. Go Osama !

    Kind regards,
    brummpahh
    Quote Originally Posted by Connavar (from his wipeout rankings site)
    "But I heard that with Fury it's much easier to do amazing times because you can receive tons of turbos like 7-8, especially if you're in front"

    "It's true, look at some of hellfire videos, when he's in front, he receives sometimes 5-6-7 turbos!! Which I had almost never seen before, and that's not in just 1 race. It's not with Fury ships, it's just since Fury is out."
    Id like to take the time to say theres nothing personal against either of these two blokes Both sound, friendly, polite and fast players who i have a lot of time for, and they are not the only 2 who have expressed such opinions, just the only ones available for me to quote as supposed to psn pm's.

    In a nutshell i think that -
    1) "Higher ranked" players recieving bonus' as such is just utterly ridiculous, and...
    2) Before FURY came out many turbos in a single race was hardly unheard of. Not regular by any means, but it DEFFINITELY isnt anything new.

    I needed to make this thread as its just tipped my annoyance overboard really, there are so many people who believe that weapon races are either a joke / winners based purely on luck / not enjoyable / unfair / no skill etc, etc, etc. Its just starting to really do my nut in.

    If you dont like it, go play Gran Turismo

    Im really interested in what you guys believe to be true. Besides FURY tracks havining a much smaller area in which you need to hit to pick up weapons and hit speed pads, i dont think theres any huge difference to anything else.

    If im well wide of the mark, please feel free to enlighten me
    I look forward to you replies!
    Last edited by OBH; 2nd November 2009 at 01:09 PM.

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    Once more time, a newbie who can be world champion of WipEout if... and if... and if...
    Don't waste your time with them.

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    That's my team-mate !!

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    It's either a famine or a feast with the turbos.

    I must admit that I have found that occasionally,when you do get a run of turbos they are 1 or 2 more than pre FURY.
    I think my previous best EVER run on turbos pre Fury was 4 ,since FURY I've had more than a few races where I've had at least 6.

    But then again I've gone through a 8 race tournament and not had one.

    Don't think the weapons favor anybody,unless you consider picking up just mines & bombs while out in front favoritism.

    Something wacky is going on.

    The old swapped craft handling made a reappearance online earlier tonight,had my usual AG but it was oversteering like a zone craft,I messaged one person who I was racing against and they said the same happened to them,the game must of loaded zone battle handling to a normal race.

    Anyway,all these things happen occasionally ,but NOT ALL the time as some might think .

    My 2 cents

    Checking your online time immediately after you finish a race to see if you beat a PB has become a bit of a joke,tried checking one tonight and all I got was 446,587th [didn't beat your 446,580th place though Osama ]

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    What I've experienced is that I often seem to get the same pick-ups at the same places in a race.

    It's not annoying, just a bit weird to get a shield on every lap at the same place.

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    From my mini experience i can say the multiple turbo appearance when you are in front really started with Pure, same with Pulse , also in HD and now in fury. but like BW said it's not all the time happening but still enough happening to make it noticeable. What shall we think about that : is it unfair or fair ? It's a detail among others that needs to be taken in consideration but not in a drama way, it's part of the game and for me it's ok, not a big deal.
    about favored weapons for highly ranked pilot that's just plain bull s h i t

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaori
    if ...and if ...and if ...
    that reminds a recent post from me about some hypothetical family evolution

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    I don't intend to start any arguing but I personally don't think your position means anything in a race in terms of pick-ups. This isn't Mario Kart with the elastic band item system, WipEout is random. I have races with no boosts and races with 5 boosts, plus everything in between.

    The reason I'm losing is because I'm not doing well, pick-ups do influence whether you win or not naturally. Your pick-up effectiveness is only as good as you are really, unless you get 10 boosts in a race.

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    I always seem to get things I don't want when I'm first like missiles, rockets and cannons. Although it has happened once or twice were I get turbos at the same spot 4 laps in a row right before the track splits in Ubermall.

    It must be a matter of someone being luckier than someonce else. At least were the pickups are concerned.

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    Hmmm...To be honest, I have experienced what the Pm'ers have stated, but I dont think its a big deal. I believe it just "seems" like the lead place is getting a bit more boost. The only other thing I can think of, is that later or recent patches conflict or "glitch" the weapon randomiser.

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    Luck.

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