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    Quote Originally Posted by IH8YOU View Post
    ... So you need a tv set that has a set polarization (most older LCDs seem to be random so no dice) - and it must be able to do at least 120hz if you want to see 60hz 3d. ...
    Given that the game should run in 1080p at 60fps in 3D, we would need
    60 frames for the right and 60 frames for the left eye. I'm really questioned
    whether WipEout HD is capable of rendering 120 frames per second. I guess
    the whole thing comes along with a reduction in resolution or framerate, if
    the 3D effect should be for real, i.e. the whole scene is computed twice
    for each 3D frame (= two 2D frames), each with a different camera angle.

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    yeah, well polarization is just a way right ? you also have the lcd glasses synchronized with the screen am i wrong ?
    anyway, i agree you need 120 fps to get 60 fps 3D, but i'm sure once you computed a scene for right eyes, then compute the same scene for left eye will be faster, some sort of algo or soft or hard will do this no ?

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    When the time comes that it can be done without wearing glasses or other hardware, then I might like 3D. <damned perfectionist.

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    I would think it would run at 30FPS for 3D, and split screen would be unavailable simply because this is already running below 30FPS all the time. So it would be 30FPS 3D (Division of the normal 60FPS into 30FPS for left eye, 30FPS for right eye). It wouldn't be as smooth, but it would still be better than split screen

    I don't think I have the screen for that though, my screen is a simple computer monitor from a few years ago. Only 60Hz.

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    @chboing: Yes, I think some stuff can be reused while computing the frame
    for the other eye.

    @Lance: The time has already come, but those glasses-free displays are not much
    in use in the gaming sector, yet. There are 3D-displays out there that uses
    about 5 masks to synthezise a steroscopic picture such that while looking at it
    produces a three-dimensional effect without using glasses. It works by
    intercepting the rendering pipline (usually based on OpenGL) to force it to
    render additional pictures with a different camera positions each. A special
    driver will then pre-process these images and send them to the 3D-display.
    I was on a trade show where you could test and even buy those 3D-displays.
    There are only two downsides to them. First, you can't perceive the 3D effect
    while looking from the 'sides', and second, the resolution displayed is always
    less as the one internally rendered, because those masks do cover space on the
    display as well, they are all weaved together in some way.

    I had always some doubts about whether this technique works out or not. But it
    does! And it looks very good! I even played a racing game on the trade show. Up
    to my point of view it is the best solution for 3D gaming, but an expensive one!
    There exist some 3D-displays that can display a resolution of 1080p, but
    rendering multiple frames at 1080p puts a heavy load on current graphics
    accelerator. One can get a low-resolution 3D display (about 800x600) for about
    1k EUR as of today.

    Those displays are currently used in some parts of the industry and in academia.

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    So what are the complete specification televisions that will allow the use of this technology?

    What Hz would i need,
    Whats size screen?
    etc....

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    The mentioned technology is already incorperated into those 3D-displays. It's not like
    that you can download a software and buy a usual display to get the same effect.

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    3D in movies - nah, don't really see the point so not very interested (although I realize I may well have to take that back sooner or later, it's not like that argument hasn't been used before to describe tech we now take for granted)

    3D gaming - yes I'm definitely interested! Just seems like it would be a natural extension and more close to reality. It's a 3 dimensional world, friends

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    Until it feels like you're REALLY in the craft with side tvs and such, I don't think I'll care too much either...

    Would rather want old Wipeouts online... but I won't mention it...

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    lol, Especially in WipEout HD when so much information is coming at you at one time BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING SO MIND NUMBINGLY FAST LIKE I AM RIGHT NOW! IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE MIND TO COMPREHEND ANYTHING AT THIS SPEED!

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