SL leaderboard post boost-select-boost

[OBH]

For anyone who doesnt know - this is boost-select
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MttTY3GotRk(Our good friend Leungbok with a mighty fine example of it )

This feature was then replaced ina recent update, with needing to hold down a button for a few seconds.

Anyway, sorry if im a bit slow to this, I only really got to delve back into WipeoutHD and Fury the past week, but I was thinking surely SL should reset the speed lap times after having changed this feature??

I have nothing against the times currently set using this method, many of mine were, but if current leaderboard times cannot be beaten doesnt it makes the competition on the Speed Lap leaderboard completely redundant??

I feel robbed to be honest, why bother ever doing SL again on a number of tracks if i know its physically impossible to beat my record.

[Darkdrium777]

I guess that's what you get when you used this boost reset feature in order to get faster times. It's kind of a lesson: "you shouldn't have used it."
Some people haven't learned though and are still using it...
IMO they should wipe the leaderboards clean of all the modes that have had glitches in them: Zone, Speed Lap and Single Race.

[pirahpac]

its still possible everywhere ( new wr 17.40 vineta and me on moa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIK_XZQJZGQ ) but very hard ..very

[RedScar]

Just don't wipe the detonator boards right DD777 ;P I worked to hard to hard to beat your Pro Tozo score.

Not to start up this arguement again (and thus starting it again), but BSB and anything similar to it are not ment to be used. The boosting with nose up at the start of a lap to gain just enough height to BR like in Barnsters last video of his venom TJ speedlap (I can't remember who found this) I'm cool with, as it doesn't use any method that you couldn't already do pre to SL introducing the boost replacement.

[andybob35]

where's the rep feature gone? OBH has got it spot on! Id rather see a table where time for top ten are decided by skill and 00.00.10's and not like moa rev SL... luxoflux of all people should know better.... anyway as it can still be done on some tracks i don't see why the desperation to get a faster time when its clear very few racers are now attempting (beating current SL records) it now... its an exploit for the few who choose to use it, and those who do are comparing their time with other BSB people and not people who 'just play the game'...

[OBH]

its still possible everywhere ( new wr 17.40 vineta and me on moa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIK_XZQJZGQ) but very hard ..very

Didnt know its still possible.

Dont you think thats just going against the whole idea though? I mean they removed the feature because it was used in a manner that they hadnt intended, yet your still capable of doing it.

Im not going against the skill required to do it, i mean i watched that video and that really does look tough, but if it was difficult before, now only a select few diehards would still be competing for SL records. Should an entire game mode be reserved for the ones determined to pull off a trick SL went out of their way to try and remove??

Does the Moa Rev time not bother you at all pirahpac? I mean a piece of the track has been changed, making it IMPOSSIBLE to beat. Wheres the point in that? They wouldnt change an F1 circuit layout then keep the records from the original.

@ Darkdrium777
I agree glitched tables should be deleted, I dont agree with the "you shouldnt have used it though" part. I bet you use jumps during multiplayer races? People will always try to be faster.

[Lance]

This is an old argument started about the oldest versions of WO; do you do what the game makes possible or do you limit yourself to what your personal sense of honour allows? Which means that people with different ideas of what's honourable produce a non-level playing field. An issue which pretty much can never be resolved to everyone's satisfaction.

[pirahpac]

for moa vineta sl i think its more easy..cuz i put the "select "just near the X ( so my finger hit 2 ..so no need to think to reput a boost..almost automatic )..ap rev is still possible too..ub too..the hardest is ap forward ..i did my 20.24 with..but akfurtif did his 20.08 without ..so.;i dont think any challenge is dead .just training is the key mate.if i can u can ..no? ps : hmm i dont think in other wipeout the boost before startline was intented for do it / and moa rev = no bsb .;just a big bug . i dont use this longcut because its the only boost br totally random. i have a good 22.52 with just a little boost br over the mag ( not in the sky or space like the longcut )

[Lance]

~~~~.if i can u can ..no?

No.

[XBARNSTERX]

I've already said that i think the tables should be wiped, as it is impossible to beat some records that used it. However alot of time was spent by people setting their times, would it be fair? It was talked about being able to delete your own records, any you felt where glitched or used BsB. I think thats the best idea, but then again that wouldnt take all BsB records out of the tables.

Dont be discouraged trying to better yours BsB times though, since the update i've bettered quite a few without this method and come real close to some with the new ships

[GreenPhazon]

I guess that's what you get when you used this boost reset feature in order to get faster times. It's kind of a lesson: "you shouldn't have used it."
Some people haven't learned though and are still using it...
IMO they should wipe the leaderboards clean of all the modes that have had glitches in them: Zone, Speed Lap and Single Race.

Surely SR times are based solely on the luck of the weapons draw?

[silverfoxy]

Just to clarify on the Zone scores

Its Syncopia and Mallavol that don't update at all.

I did a PB on Pro yesterday and it updated in minutes.

at the moment I'm only playing pro and C12 of the pure4 as seriously whats the point when the leaderboards don't bother. I tried Connavar's site and updated a load of records and then when I checked they hadn't changed either and just reverted to my default score.

[Darkdrium777]

Surely SR times are based solely on the luck of the weapons draw?

Go look at the single race leaderboards and come back again. Look at every single track. Phantom of course.
If anything, it's much worse than the speed lap leaderboards.

OBH: I am not aggressive, I am not damning all the people who used the BSB when it was available. I am just saying, they shouldn't have used it because it's just common sense. It's obvious that you are exploiting the boost reset to get a faster time when you do it. Does it take skill, I'd say yes, but it's not a legit technique. Again, like I've already said multiple times on this issue: I'm not attacking the people who used it (The French Fourbe are still highly skilled players that I enjoy talking/racing with), I am only talking about the technique.
But there is a huge difference between boosting and flying in the air (Without going through walls, as that is also glitching) and doing a barrel roll, and exploiting the boost reset feature. One is a valid racing technique, the other is an exploit. So that's a huge difference. If you can't see that, and if anyone else can't, I guess that's why they are still using the boost reset exploit.

[Lance]

Some people believe that everything the game programming allows is legitimate. And they are correct. For themselves.

Others believe that exploiting programming mistakes and oversights is a distortion of the game's intended nature. And they are correct. For themselves.

And for me, too, I think. But that is only my own personal preference.

[Rathboneski]

for the people that say the exploit has been taken away.

It hasn't.

You can still do the trick on all tracks and speeds. Granted a 'small handful' of these it is harder to do, but STILL possible.

I have beat quite a few of my times on various speeds of speedlap on many tracks so I believe that pretty much all records are still beatable and people will still use this trick. For example the icarus fury ship got more thrust and I found I could straight away tell it was quicker than my pre-fury ghosts.

No need to wipe speedlap times at all imo.