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    lol @ SaturnReturn! What an awesome response!
    Quote Originally Posted by jimsin View Post
    After a week with the Dualshock 3, I would definitely say that successful barrel rolls happen much more frequently - it's rare to miss one. I don't think this is necessarily because the Dualshock is a better controller, it's maybe just because my original ones were quite old and worn.

    On the downside - I find that I get my best times by being extremely gentle with the airbreaks, anything more than a light brush on Phantom tends to result in me having to overcompensate - Now the problem with the Dualshock 3 is that the airbreak triggers push in with much less resistance than the original controllers - thus it's much more of a struggle to be subtle with the airbreaks, and more often than not I end up with either all or nothing.

    So yes - for me the Dualshock 3 is a mixed bag.
    Ive got to agree with this. After breaking it in for a few days, its certainly got a bit better doing BRs. Not 100% but definitely better. And the triggers are also weird at first, but I got used to them pretty quick. TBH ive always pressed them hard but briefly when cornering rather than slightly as necessary so resistance wasnt really a big issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaturnReturn View Post
    Haha, poor frenchies. You make them sound like they've done something wrong "Just what do you think you're doing with all these barrel rolls? Hmm? Explain yourself young pirahpac! You can wipe that smirk off your face too Master Leungbok, don't get me started on your boost-select-boost shenanigans." Teehee!
    young with 34 years im happy thk .for br,i dont understand my fingers sometimes lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xurfu8GOdr0 .i play with 10% trust and 20 % airbrakes " et beaucoup de fenetres" ps: ( i want a sub 17 somewhere lol) leungbsbok i love u fourbe

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    Plazarou - those Gioteck triggers look interesting, thanks - I'll definitely check them out.

    Pirahpac - lol - I don't understand your fingers either - I'm sure it makes more sense if you can see the screen at the same time.

    Youarefubar - Glad somebody agrees about the Duelshock being better for Barrelrolls ... as regards the brakes, I now seem to be developing a different airbreaking style more suited to the less resistant triggers - I'd love to know more about people's exact cornering techniques ... thing is that it's so reflexive that I hardly know what I'm doing myself ( like Pirahpac was saying I think ).

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    Do you always play with the mini USB cable connected?

    That might explain why your percentage of successful BR's are so high and how you seem to be able to do them at places others find very hard,if not impossible

    I've always been of the opinion that the wireless connection doesn't have a 100% success rate,or there is a slight lag inherent between the controller and the console.

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    Funny Pirhapac!

    I found it slightly disturbing that I could pretty much guess where on the track you were just by looking at the steering input. I need a break methinks

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackwiggle View Post
    Do you always play with the mini USB cable connected?

    That might explain why your percentage of successful BR's are so high and how you seem to be able to do them at places others find very hard,if not impossible

    I've always been of the opinion that the wireless connection doesn't have a 100% success rate,or there is a slight lag inherent between the controller and the console.
    I'm not sure of that, mate ! I almost always play without the wire and i let the paddle discharge to the max. I don't encounter problem to perform br even with low charge (offline of course ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackwiggle View Post
    Do you always play with the mini USB cable connected?

    That might explain why your percentage of successful BR's are so high and how you seem to be able to do them at places others find very hard,if not impossible

    I've always been of the opinion that the wireless connection doesn't have a 100% success rate,or there is a slight lag inherent between the controller and the console.
    Never considered that before. Might try with the controller plugged in now.

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    I play with USB plugged in 99% of the time. BRs are still total epic fail. Rewrite the code completely, find another way to make them work, or don't include them in the next game FFS. Enough of the dodgy inputs. We're losing the very definition of "WipeOut" if we keep random things like this in...
    Precision...

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    Totally agree with you there Darkdrium.

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    I tend to waggle it all wrong such as left-right-right when I'm not really into the
    game such as being frustrated because of few .01 seconds in a time trial.

    I noticed this just a little while ago when I try to waggle the combo too fast.

    And on Chenghou I have a theory. It also might be because of the drop height you get to thinking you don't need to press the combo that fast since there's
    so much time. And because of that the combo is too slow thus ship not rolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackwiggle View Post
    Do you always play with the mini USB cable connected?

    That might explain why your percentage of successful BR's are so high and how you seem to be able to do them at places others find very hard,if not impossible

    I've always been of the opinion that the wireless connection doesn't have a 100% success rate,or there is a slight lag inherent between the controller and the console.
    yes u right cuz USB = Unlimited Skill Barrell roll .......... U Serious Blackwiggle ?? oO 1: it was just because..my paddle needed reload 2 : i have ANY problem with br everywhere( except chengou online..like all) 3:

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    It was only a question nothing more

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackwiggle View Post
    It was only a question nothing more
    np lol i have my humour typically french

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    @Blackwiggle- I confirm, hardcore humor ! So don't care mate
    And about success on br, i must confess that my videos (and i suppose Pirah's videos too) are selected bits. I consistently miss br (even the easiest sometimes )
    Last edited by leungbok; 20th July 2009 at 02:20 PM.

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    I asked Mad Ice ages ago how the hell he was doing his BR's and to post a video.

    He thought it ridiculous ,but obviously ARENA guys think it is valid.

    HAIL! to MR sticky thumb [my thumb falls off the stick is trying to do what PIRA is doing here].

    The Fastest thumb in the west
    Last edited by blackwiggle; 20th July 2009 at 03:36 PM.

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    Where the hell is this video you where going on about blackwiggle?

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    Post #22 of this thread

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    k then

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    Quote Originally Posted by O_BR View Post
    And on Chenghou I have a theory. It also might be because of the drop height you get to thinking you don't need to press the combo that fast since there's
    so much time. And because of that the combo is too slow thus ship not rolling.
    No. BRs can work even when you do a slow left right left combo. Try it by sending yourself flying in the sky, Sol2 or Sebenco work well for that, and then try any speed while doing the combo. It can work until it's very slow.
    The reason it doesn't work is the same as why they don't work in PurE or Pulse. Bad code. :/ I hope they did fix that with the new update coming out this week.

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    ....and with the expansion on the way as well. Either fix it or remove it, it's that simple.

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