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    Not sure about Motorstorm as I never really got into it and have never played it online,but Ridge Racer 7 had online problems as well if I remember KIGO's post about it correctly [not having played it online myself].

    I'd try it but I really can't be bothered with RR anymore,I'm a wipeout tragic I'm afraid,always will be.

    Even in it's frustratingly problematic online game play,it's still "THE" racing game for me.

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    yup same for me. The game-concept is timeless, and will always be fun.

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    I've played Motorstorm online a few times and absolutely no problems whatsoever. As online experiences go it's pretty flawless, I haven't played much though, as of course Wipeout stole my life and my abilitiy to play any other game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hemicrania View Post
    Why do the diehard players dislike this entry so much?
    If "diehard" means people who have played a lot of the previous Wipeout titles, then I am not a diehard player. But starting with WO HD, I will die hard (and do almost every night)
    I donīt think the "diehard" players dislike WO HD at all - Iīd rather believe they indeed love Wipeout so much (including the potential of WO HD, when everything runs smoothly for everybody), that they want the game to be absolutely perfect in every way. A cry out of desperation - for perfection.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hemicrania View Post
    ...what do the new guys on the field think of the old soldiers. Is there hatred towards each other?
    Hatred? My mind is absolutely blank ... I am a relatively new guy: Why the hell should I hate The Old Soldiers? I simply donīt understand. If not for them, the aura and history surrounding Wipeout wouldnīt exist, all the splendid initiatives (as seen on WO-zone) wouldnīt exist. They are indeed a motivating factor.
    Believe me, if I ever meet an old soldier around Makana Island, Iīll present him/her a gift! ........... (Shaped as a missile or a rocket)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hemicrania View Post
    Do games like moterstorm have any of the online problems you guys discribe, and what is a good example of a good ps3-racegame that actually works online?

    (ow, and srry if this kind of thread is a common thing on these forums. Ill look for similair threads next time)
    Thing is, motorstorm: pacific rift as lots of different racing lines so that everything can be accomodated for on the track (from bikes to monster trucks). So, generally, people follow whatever lines best suits their vehicle. In WO:HD, everyone's in pretty much the same vehicle, so everyone follows the same line, and there isn't a great deal of choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJPAP View Post
    If "diehard" means people who have played a lot of the previous Wipeout titles, then I am not a diehard player. But starting with WO HD, I will die hard (and do almost every night)
    I donīt think the "diehard" players dislike WO HD at all - Iīd rather believe they indeed love Wipeout so much (including the potential of WO HD, when everything runs smoothly for everybody), that they want the game to be absolutely perfect in every way. A cry out of desperation - for perfection.


    Hatred? My mind is absolutely blank ... I am a relatively new guy: Why the hell should I hate The Old Soldiers? I simply donīt understand. If not for them, the aura and history surrounding Wipeout wouldnīt exist, all the splendid initiatives (as seen on WO-zone) wouldnīt exist. They are indeed a motivating factor.
    Believe me, if I ever meet an old soldier around Makana Island, Iīll present him/her a gift! ........... (Shaped as a missile or a rocket)
    hatred was a bad choise of words, hehe (srry my english isnt that great)

    Without them the franchise would be dead. But you must admit, there are some grumpy old men floating around...

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    I really agree with JJPAP`s post. A lot of "old soldiers" are just perfectionists looking for Wipeout perfection in their different ways. I don`t think there`s much difference between the old and the new members. Some us discovered this site sooner than others, that`s the only difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by ProblemSolver View Post
    The game is Ace, for sure,
    but the way how bugs / glitches / problems are handled is inferior.
    This is a seperate point to JJPAP`s and just as true, imo. We might disagree about what perfection is, but I think we would all agree that HD is a bit broken in many ways. I`m really not at all confident that anything will ever be done about these issues and the glitched leaderboards. It seems irrational to make a great leaderboard and not maintain it, but I suppose there must be reasons.

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    I'm quite a competative soul, and to be able to enjoy wipEout online with so many other players has been excellent.

    The mechanics, teams, and aesthetics of older games may have pleased me more, there may be some bugs with the current HD version that need ironing out, and the in-game record tables are no match to Connavar and co's own websites, but the banter / arranged matches / avalon + all the other races I get involved in, makes wipeoutHD the best one to date in my eyes.

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    QUOTE:Without them the franchise would be dead. But you must admit, there are some grumpy old men floating around...

    The ONLY reason the "Old Men" became grumpy was because the game BECAME broken and not fixed,this is despite frequent [ post's about what is wrong].

    It must be a generation thing where a service is paid for and is expected to be provided,the current generation are ready to pile HD on the scrap heap [disposable ] and just wait for the next installment.

    The "NO HARD COPY GENERATION".
    Spend your $$ and have absolutely nothing to show for them in 10 years time.
    Nothing collectible on a dead hard drive and a defunct console &/or OS.

    If you think like that,well trust me ,that's the way YOUR life will go,NOBODY will give a flying Fu(k about what you do or what you have ever done,you will be cast off will total indignity,just like the things you covert now but actually don't put any value to.

    Sorry to sound so "GRUMPY",but this generation can't see the brick wall it's driving it's self into at supersonic zone speed.

    The only people in 10-15 years time that will have a full time job are old age carers and data recovery specialists.
    Guess Stinkleroy and I are both covered.

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    I see no problem with grumpiness anyway. It happens naturally after a certain age.

    I think the main problem is that before any of the recent updates that introduced rankings and badges, online play was (for the majority) pretty much flawless with few missing weapons pads, no BR issues and less lag. Since, well, we have been down that road but its fair to say its not perfect.

    In some ways, Wipeout is IMO still very good online. One of my other favourite games is Pro Evo (soccer) and the lag on that game is just ridiculous. Bear in mind, mainly, it is 1 on 1 and the lag experienced is horrific. If you have the misfortune not to be hosting the game can become unplayable. Even, when you host the game does silly things like players teleporting around the pitch, button presses not responding for 2 seconds and an inability to feel in control even when you have the ball. Its not like its even a new problem (happened in last 3 incarnations that I know of) and the ordeals you have to go through just to connect is unbelievable (basically you can only play if your DMZ is enabled - I never even knew what it was before Pro Evo !!), to sign up for a Konami account is also an experience in itself that is beyond normal people's comprehension.

    Now considering Wipeout sometimes supports up to 8 players I think in comparison it provides a much better experience. Not saying its perfect but just giving an idea that there are other games out there are much worse. And at least the developers come on here and acknowledge there are issues that are being worked on. With Pro Evo they won't even recognise (publicly) that the online function is awful and needs improvement.

    Everyone wants perfection and Wipeout is a game that lends itself to that. No game will ever be perfect for everyone but it is a damn sight more perfect than a lot of the half-baked, half finished games out there. Even more so with Fury up and coming.

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