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    Default Me failing at WOHD - Also starring Greenix & KGB1971

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7veTv9nL7ak&fmt=18

    Can anyone give any constructive hints? :3 Other than practice more and stop hitting walls? I really can't get the hang of Phantom yet for some reason I can do pretty well on Rapier, but it seems like there's no point trying to be the biggest fish in a small pond by playing the slower speed classes :/

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    We need to play together. You look about like me. Last night I was banging walls all night. I did get my AG assassin through some miracle last night. My problem is I don't do much playing outside of online (which I should, I know) and I'll race whatever there is to race so I end up racing Venom a lot or Flash or..... well you get the picture. I don't race enough in Phantom to be really good. More like just enough not to embarrass myself.

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    Your applying your air brakes to late on nearly every corner,also your will find that is basically just learning the timing of each corner.
    Imagine each corner as a beat/note in a game like guitar hero or similar,the track is the song.
    You know the song and can see the beat coming but your missing it,you should be anticipating it as the song/track doesn't change,only the tempo if you slow down due to hitting something.
    Best way to get your timing right is to practice in racesbox speed laps.

    Also I find the shadows falling across the tracks at specific points great as marker points for knowing when to start turning,so just look for them and use them.
    It will all fall into place.

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    I think you're doing ok, maybe not the first 2 laps because you were constantly
    zigzagging (lol I was playing exactly like that a few weeks ago), but the others
    were good enough, you just need to practice a bit more.
    You need to use more sideshifting, including when you hit a wall, to minimize
    its impact. Also you should show an easier track to see, it might simply be that
    you're not used to this track?

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    If I were you, I just wouldn't go anywhere near rapier again.
    You won't get any faster if you play with pilots that are not as good as you.

    You need to bite the bullet I'm afraid and make the step up to phantom, you may suffer some heavy defeats at first which may be hard to take but it is good for the soul to lose sometimes and also makes you a better winner.

    Speed lap at Phantom is good training place, if you do enough of them you will suddenly find that you "get" the track

    And anyway your not that bad, if its any consolation i got my arse kicked in Avalon not much after the races we had been having.

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    From what I can see in the video, you'll be fine in a couple of weeks, don't worry. Right now, you are still reacting to the track, because you don't know all the turns by heart yet. Clock some Speed Lap hours and you'll learn the exact timing of the turns. Btw Metropia Reverse is a particularly hard place to be in if you don't know every turn yet. Good video

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    Quote Originally Posted by KGB1971 View Post
    If I were you, I just wouldn't go anywhere near rapier again.
    You need to bite the bullet I'm afraid and make the step up to phantom,
    I agree completely. If you aspire to play Phantom, the only way to do it is to just do it, along with some long speed lap sessions to learn the tracks and a bit of zone to acclimatize to the speed. Slower classes will do nothing for you, imo.

    HD does take some getting used to and for me suffers from the over-twitchy handling like Pulse, though not quite that bad. I think don`t be afraid to brake-tap a lot to keep the ship going straight while you`re learning it, and training yourself that this is nothing like flying an old-school Qirex at all. Afterwards you can cut down on the braking and start to use more sideshift. I`m still getting to grips with the way this game handles too, but I do really like it now.

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    AG-Wolf: I just watched that video again and apart from missed speed pads I noticed you weren't doing yourself any favours with your choice of places to use your turbo boost [just before a corner etc],and you didn't BR once and you had plenty of opportunities to,have a look back a few pages in the HD section and there is a post listing best places on each track to BOOST/BR as posted by the top record holders.

    Avalon is the toughest sort of racing there is KGB1971,maybe that is what AG-Wolf should be practicing on actually.

    Racebox-Phantom-12 race Tournament-Weapons off-Elite AI.

    You HAVE to get your racing line correct playing this way [few missed speed pads] otherwise you'll constantly be last,and you have to conserve your shield because there's no pick up's.
    This is where you learn ,when and where the best place to BR is,since the Elite AI never BR's this will often win you the race or at least get you a high placing.

    If you can end up in 3rd place or better at tournament end your doing really well.
    It's NOT easy,a lot of pilots at this forum would have trouble doing it over 12 races,myself included.

    That form of practice will get you zooming around and holding your own against the fastest pilots online in no time.

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    Someone who zig-zags more than me! *hugs*

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    Blackwiggle: I don't really agree that Avalon races are the hardest at all. Once your on your racing line then nothing much can go wrong apart from the odd mistake. You do need to know where your speed pads are and how to get to them though. On the other hand trying to make your way round a track that's littered with mines, bombs and the like, is what makes a great pilot. (I am far from that though!). Don't get me wrong, i love Avalon races.

    AG Wolf: You obviously know your way round the tracks at Rapier speeds so you need to ask yourself what's changed. Simply, you need to input your commands quicker (this is a very cold way of putting it). I'm no expert at these tracks but there is a rhythm to all of them that is there to learn and I'm still struggling with some myself, Half the trick is getting back into the rhythm once you get blown to bits out of it.


    Please add me as a friend and ill race you any time. Keep an eye on all your race records on Phantom and I'm sure they will drop very fast once you get into it.

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