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    POST "666"

    Damn! How did he do that. Dexies?

    POST "666"

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    Remember pre release review copies of WOHD wemt out on disc [with reviewers code]

    Work it out.

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    Hi!
    Yes, i've found a bug in Zone Mode in WipEout HD. I tought the developers will know about that but i wait and wait and no one contact with me... I told about glitch one guy who help me discover how its work and he's actually number one on scoreboard. Find glitch was accidental and i don't want to be #1, I wanted to see how many zones can I pass but just as I wanted to try myself on Supersonic and i've "unlocked" ship and die. I'm very impressed your score ProblemSolver and you are the only one who deserves for 1st place on scoreboard. I want to write Studio Liverpool but my english sucks... but i will do that and explain how glitch is work.
    Best regards.
    XtianoPL

    PS sorry for my english, count on it that You understood me
    Last edited by XtianoPL; 27th December 2008 at 12:05 PM.

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    Blackwiggle, in Fusion speed didn't increase after zone 60, in Pure I don't know but in Pulse and HD it just keeps on increasing, and on and on in HD until there is no end, apparently. It only stops increasing when you've drained all the available ship energy...
    Last edited by AnErare; 27th December 2008 at 12:09 PM.

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    I'm only repeating what the 100+ zoner in WOHD has posted before.
    And there are only TWO
    It has nothing to do with previous WO games.
    I'd provide a link, but I would of thought all that frequent this forum would know who that was.
    Seems not.
    [I really can't be bothered searching,sorry] anybody want to name somebody other than WELLINGTON that is a ZONE master.

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    I've searched but I am unable to find it. I'm still playing pulse zone quite frequently and master it very very well. I think such a post would not go unnoticed but surely could have.

    Anyway, since the malfunction has been found more people will, and with it the scoreboard will have lost it's purpose... :/

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    @blackwiggle

    I have raced AHH-QUADZILLA myself, a long time ago. I remember him as one of my first online kills. I have to say he didn't come across as extremely quick the first time (I certainly wasn't quick myself), but the second time I met him he was winning consistently. I assume he got his times quickly because he was familiar with all the tracks from having played the PSP versions.

    As for zone, there is a post somewhere on this site by Larikun who confirms that it still gets faster after 90.

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    Bother Quadzilla and Larikin have never be seen since before the first WOHD patch.
    That's over 2.5 months out of a 3.5 month release
    Both have had their records removed.

    What do you make of that?

    Seems strange to me that players [Supposedly] that good should suddenly give up the game completely.

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    http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/sho...6&postcount=24

    I think that sounds about right. Recently I went past the 80 mark and every time I reached a new zone, the stats reported a higher top speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by multibodydynamics View Post
    Sad to see "fake" results on top of the leaderboard... I reached zone 74 yesterday... that's just my type of luck... sigh...
    But hey, Problem Solver, now you have a new goal to reach for!
    It's somewhat unsatisfying that no one can compete with me up to zone 115+,
    seriously. I did a 116 last week and now lead with 12 zones with respect to
    second best. I would be pleased if someone could caught up with we, since
    sharing the experience on that speed would be great.

    Quote Originally Posted by lunar View Post
    ... I think it`s definitely worth an email to SCEE/SL as Wipeout HD is an amazingly "clean" online game and should be kept that way. Hopefully it`s just a random occurrence and not a glitch in the game that can be exploited.
    Is there an official email address from STUDIO Liverpool were one can
    send a bug report to?


    Quote Originally Posted by Wotan View Post
    New record on anulpha : 1000 zones with 3 perfects zones

    I think that score confirm the existence of one glitch on zone mode ^^
    They, SL, have to act now! The leaderboard is starting to mess up.

    Quote Originally Posted by djKyoto View Post
    // ProblemSolver : Greetings to everyone!
    http://wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5513
    (featuring the original version of the video in question)


    Quote Originally Posted by blackwiggle View Post
    Zone doesn't actually get any faster after zone around 70 so it's all about holding it together after you hit those zones.
    The 100+ zoner posted that himself here. ...
    That's wrong. The speed increases at last up to zone 116, which I can state
    from my own experience as well as from the result screen. And I can tell
    you, the speed becomes insane. Upon entering zone 110+ the craft starts
    to airborne a lot. I would be pleased do to another video, a 115+ video,
    such that you all can see how insane / amazing it becomes.

    Quote Originally Posted by XtianoPL View Post
    Hi!
    Yes, i've found a bug in Zone Mode in WipEout HD. I tought the developers will know about that but i wait and wait and no one contact with me... I told about glitch one guy who help me discover how its work and he's actually number one on scoreboard. Find glitch was accidental and i don't want to be #1, I wanted to see how many zones can I pass but just as I wanted to try myself on Supersonic and i've "unlocked" ship and die. I'm very impressed your score ProblemSolver and you are the only one who deserves for 1st place on scoreboard. I want to write Studio Liverpool but my english sucks... but i will do that and explain how glitch is work.
    Best regards.
    XtianoPL
    Nice to have you here, XtianoPL! And thx for the flowers. I've written in
    my original post that SL should contact you such that you (or Assphalt) can
    tell them how the glitch works. Assphalt contacted me, he asked how to
    contact SL. However, don't throw the glitch to the public, since there is
    still the possibility to save the leaderboard. I for myself have no problems
    if they reset the leaderboard, my only issue with that is that the amount
    of entries currently onto leaderboard of ANULPHA PASS are going for a reset,
    too. And I don't think that we will get such an amount of entries again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProblemSolver View Post
    Is there an official email address from STUDIO Liverpool were one can
    send a bug report to?
    contact@studioliverpool.eu
    I get it from '06 Merseysides address book, so it can be old. Especially, because I cannot find any on google. But it's always better then nothing.
    Burn those cheaters, now two, second we look there will be thousands

    Lucas

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    Welcome aboard Lucas. However I don't think Wipeout HD will fall prey to a cheating epidemic. Can't take any chances though!

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    I can see that the top players are feeling betrayed since the top two positions have been taken by folks by means of a bug in the code.

    A friend of mine who was in the top ten has recently just been moved down two places and he doesn't want to play Wipe out anymore until this problem has been resolved. I am hoping that Problem Solver can solve this problem by urging LS to react quickly as he owns Anulpha Pass Zone!

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    Other cheaters:
    #47 got 94 - 15
    #454 got 76 - 5
    #595 got 75 - 2

    The last 2 are "ok" since they just wanted the trophy.

    Now if a good player starts cheating, this could be a disaster,
    and would require the tables to be reset...
    Last edited by Connavar; 28th December 2008 at 08:36 PM.

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    First off, Leaderboards are a nice thing, but in the end it's only a list.
    The glitch does not take anything away from the very awesomeness of
    the ZONE mode. And there is nothing compareable in braking the 100
    zone barrier with his very own skills.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas_RD View Post
    contact@studioliverpool.eu
    I get it from '06 Merseysides address book, so it can be old....
    I wrote an email to that address. The address seems to be valid since I
    didn't got a delivery error. Well, I hope they'll gave us an indication that
    they are aware of the problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by crashZF5 View Post
    I can see that the top players are feeling betrayed since the top two positions have been taken by folks by means of a bug in the code. ...
    I guess that the glitch will offset those person who put a lot of effort
    into ZONE in getting the Zeus trophy. Perhaps there might be an option to
    remove the Zeus trophy for those people who obviously used the glitch to
    obtain it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connavar View Post
    Other cheaters:
    #47 got 94 - 15
    #454 got 76 - 5
    #595 got 75 - 2
    If second number stand for perfect zones, then do the math again, because it is possible without using cheats. But we will never know for sure.

    We're only lucky it isn't on youtube yet.

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    Even if mathematically possible, it's not in practice, if you look at the top #
    1000 scores, the cheater scores really stand out (first 2 + those 3), because
    all other players score 30 perfect zones or more, and none of them has a ratio
    zones/perfect greater than 2.5 about. (while here we got 6, 17, 37).

    So trust me it's a cheat for sure, also remember that this score is their
    personal best, they would have scores much higher with less zones and more
    perfect ones, which is a lot easier to accomplish.

    You need amazing skills to reach zone 75, those skills would certainly enable
    you to score at least 30 perfect zones, easily.

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    Now I'm pissed! You absolutely right. My personal best is 69 Zones at leaderboard, even though I've reached 78 Zone once.
    So, is this XtianoPL honest with us about letting only one person his secret?
    Boy, I hope my "neighbours", the SL team know how this bug work and they will fix it asap.

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    That 94 - 15 score has been there for a long time. It's either someone who knew about the cheat before XtianoPL did or it's legitimate. I suspect it's legitimate. I think it was done by only using airbrakes, since I remember when I did the airbraker trophy I rarely had any large impacts, but instead got gradually worn down by frequently lightly brushing the side. This person has probably perfected flying like this.

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    Default Air Braker or Zone Breaker?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wellington86 View Post
    I think it was done by only using air brakes, since I remember when I did the airbraker trophy I rarely had any large impacts, but instead got gradually worn down by frequently lightly brushing the side. This person has probably perfected flying like this.
    I agree with you there as my friend who is in the top ten on leader boards uses only Air Brakes to move up to zone 100.

    Its pretty weird since I am not used to them and I have seen him play.

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