Pilot Assist is an insult

[kingadrock311]

There are not enough foul words in the english language to say how bad I hate pilot assist

It is truly an insult to long time fans from PSX days who enjoy the wipeout series for the purity and difficulty of its gameplay, and I'm truly sad to see my favorite game series being constantly dumbed down to cater to gamers who think games are just too hard these days


Does anyone know where I can sign a petition or at least email the developers about removing Pilot Assist from online games that i create or at LEAST GIVE US THE OPTION TO DISABLE IT??

[KIGO1987]

You seem quite pissed about PA. You can turn it off in the option settings. But i think SL is trying to entice a larger audience by creating the option on PA for the more basic players.

Right now there are more things to be pissed off over like, why the **** is Vigilante 8 on the goddam ****ing ****box console on ****box live instead of the PS3 Playstation Store. Really not happy about that. I hope there are more cases of rings of death for the consoles who have that game. It would be good if microsoft are struggling in this economic crisis i want to see those bastards go bankrupt.

[b4p]

oh man this is great.

i agree; PA should at least be disabled for the higher two speed classes. If you can't avoid walls on phantom, maybe you shouldnt be racing on phantom. Just my opinion.

[FrenkyV]

Eventually PA slows you down around 30%.

In online races ill fly by those noobs anytime.

I always laugh when i see them zig-zagging at the small upper lane @ analpha pass at 100 Km/H... And then finishing last

[H3avyM3tal]

If I know how to race, it doesn't matter to me who is using PA online. When I race with people I know I care, but than so are they, and since everyone is on the same page, we're ok with PA (since non of us use it).

I say let everyone play as they like. And play with your friends they you all like to.

[TheFrostE]

i don't think it was really created to "cater to gamers who think games are too hard nowadays". it was for people who were new to the series , so they can learn the tracks easier since there is no mini track in-race like in a lot of other racing games. it even says this in game. stating to turn it on to make it easier to learn the tracks.

but personally i don't care if people use it or not, it only hinders you and makes your lines terrible in the higher speed classes.

[kingadrock311]

why should some newb who doesnt know how to steer be allowed to swerve all over my track?


thats like saying nascar drivers should be allowed on formula one tracks at the same time

[H3avyM3tal]

You are taking is too seriously, and it's not your track.
How is them playing with PA on makes it hard for you to play? They are just making themsleves easy target. Other players with PA on has no impact on how you play.

[crawdad62]

How is them playing with PA on makes it hard for you to play?

The better I get the less I care whether others are using PA or not. Usually if they're fairly decent they don't have it on if there marginal players with it on I'm usually past them right at the start anyway. However they can be a hinderance because they usually don't follow a line any line. They're all over the place. I know I've had my poor little Harimau absolutely creamed by some guy in a big Quirex while he's flying back and forth. They don't follow a racing line because they don't have to. That is the rub (no pun intended).

But as I say the better I get the less they bother me. In fact I've sort of forgotten them even though it would be nice to have the option of setting up a room void of PA.

[klax75]

There needs to be a host option to turn it on or off. Yes it does help people new to the series. I've had several races where I am punished for not using it, where they literally slam me off the track, and I am sent to the last spot and lose. Just making a host option makes the most sense, since there is no way of telling when you join a race to see who is using it or not.

I was in one race where it was hard to pass since 4 people in front of me where pin-balling all over the place. Since when they bump me in to the wall I come to a virtual dead stop and they just keep right on going.

[kingadrock311]

exactly, imagine a real car race on TV where there were amateur drivers who cant follow a line racing against professionals... it would be a disaster

[judus]

As H3avyM3tal said, its not THAT big a deal. The feature was added to welcome new players to the series. Yet, when we do have new players zig-zagging on phantom, should we criticise them for trying? They are atleast one better than those who dismiss the game without even giving it a try.

If you need a challenge, there are enough people here to give you a hard time keeping up let alone over take

[H3avyM3tal]

The comaprison between WO and F1 or NASCAR is very wrong. First, the rules are worlds apart. There is no rule in WO that forces you to let the faster car/craft pass you safely, so the thing about race line in this game is something that we players agree on, and therefore a rule we make for our own benefit.
2ndly, the game has weapons... so it's not really your normal racer. You can do anything in this game; you can play unfairly if you want to. That is one of the game's premises - it is a dark (well not so anymore ) and gruesome sport, where a pilot can get his arse blown to bits.

So what is the point of thinking that race-lines and such rules are mandetory? I think that if we start play the game the harsh way, we will find another aspects of the game interesting.

Besides, you want fair races, we have Avalon here

[KGB]

My seven year old son would disagree with you about pilot assist (start em young!) . He just wouldn't play if he was hitting the sides all the time, he and his friends think they are brilliant.

What does it matter if people race with it on, as long as they are having fun. It makes it interesting trying to get past them without being hit.

In fact Kanar should include it in his next Avalon meet: Pilot Assist on, weapons off..

Joking of course.

[Wellington86]

You also posted this on the gamefaqs boards, where you claim PA has ruined the game for you, and particularly the online which is 'useless'.

I have only used PA once, for the trophy, but as far as I recall it does not make you zigzag all over the track? Moreover, I have never once identified someone in a race as using PA. Even when I was as bad at the game as anyone who's new (which I was for a good couple of weeks) I never thought to myself that I was being beaten by people using PA. My guess is anyone using PA will lapped by any player on this site in a phantom race.

It is a legitimate tool for those who want to use it to learn the game, and in my experience it does nothing at all to ruin online play.

If you're losing I assure you it has nothing to do with other players using PA.

[eLhabib]

While I don't think PA breaks the game, there certainly are some occasions in which I wished PA was banned from online play (at least at the higher speeds). On a technically difficult track, like Sebenco, for example, PA gives rather decent players the possibility to fly almost perfect. Of course, any good player will pull ahead of a PA user rather quickly, but if you start in the last position on phantom Sebenco, and some people in front of you are using PA, it can be quite a bitch to try and pull past them. PA makes them go on rails, they will slam you brutally if you get too close, and on really curvy tracks they will indeed appear to zigzag from side to side. It's not a problem for players at our level, Wellington, but for aspiring pilots who aren't quite there yet, racing phantom with other players using PA can actually put them at a disadvantage.

[H3avyM3tal]

How exactly does it put them at a disadvantage? It is not a cheat, and it can be useful only on technical tracks. It still is slower, so on the less technical tracks PA players will lose. It doesn't give any edge whatsoever.

As for making it difficult to win on one or two tracks... It is up to the player.

[eLhabib]

It puts inexperienced players without PA at a disadvantage, because in a turn, when the PA of the PA-using player is active, he will act like in autopilot, meaning that he will ram aside anyone that's in his way, and possibly ramming the non-PA-using players to the walls.

[kingadrock311]

I am a wipeout purist- i believe autopilot should never have been in the game , let alone this ridiculous pilot assist - and i'm not a big fan AT ALL of these new steering features - barrel roll and side shift nonsense!! i miss the pure wipeout where skills were important

[eLhabib]

Don't miss them - they are still there. Just pop them into your PS1 and off you go

Now seriously, we got your point: you don't like PA. But no need to spam it all over the boards. Just train more. If you get fast enough, PA won't bother you anymore, trust me