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Thread: Is Harimau the weakest craft in the game??

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    I really do agree with you!!!
    Expecially when you say that: "...Assegai which i feel the tail slides sidewards to reorient the ship inside the curve..."
    I was an Assegai user in the beginning, but that style of cornering was so slow... Maybe that's because I couldn't drive an assegai, but surely with AG, goteki or harimau I was WAY much faster!!!
    So I became an AG driver.... until they released that thing.... the AG-fury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leungbok View Post
    Fury harimau, is now the best overall ship IMO !
    couldnt agree more. great alrounder. only need to glance at the leaderboards to see the number of top harimau fury times.

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    fiesar is becoming more popular online since problem solver has been doing multiplayer..im seeing lots of wannabes trying to play like him but they may need to practice a little first

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    Wellington already prooved that feisar was a powerfull ship, with awesome TT/SL records. But multiplayer races aren't an indiscuted proof that a ship is great or not, too much random !

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    feisar allow little mistakes that other ship didn't

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    Wellington didn't make mistakes

    ...never ever

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    @jasmin-jade: Thx for the flowers. Well yes, I can be pretty fast using
    FEISAR. If I were able to manage the last BR on TJ Rev. it would be enough
    for rank 1. Unfortunately, I cannot pull hard BR constantly. Anyways, I've
    beaten the best players on TJ Rev. and TDR (tracks I really know about)
    multiple times using FEISAR -- but likewise got beaten multiple times on
    other tracks.

    FEISAR can be pretty fast and Wellington showed this long ago, right.

    After some month playing with FEISAR, I have to say the following; no matter
    how good one knows the track and its FEISAR, one won't stand a chance
    against an, for example, AG-SYS pilot who also knows the track and the craft
    to its fullest. FEISARs weakest spots are its lack of thrust and corner exit
    speed, which aren't compensated by its high agility -- which by itself isn't
    any big advantage to say at least. The lack of thrust really shows its
    disadvantage esp. at the start of a race and while being hit by a bomb or
    whatever. Speaking about the FEISAR+; despite this craft has slightly more
    thrust it loses too much velocity while cornering. Too bad. FEISAR > FEISAR+,
    almost always.

    Recently I switch over to AG-SYS. Its thrust advantage is breathtaking, esp.
    at start. And I've found out that one can mimic FEISARs handling (if necessary)
    by lifting the throttle for just a very brief moment at hard turns. Since I know
    the FEISAR quite well, I'm now going to max out AG-SYS to see if I can't get
    a lot faster in the end.

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    Problem Solver did you switch to Ag-Sys or to Ag-Sys+?

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    AG SYS+ is Garbage compared to the AG SYS HD.

    I found that FEISAR+ Handles more like AGSYS HD and is a tad bit faster.

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    I saw PS in the old school AG-S tonight. Hard to tell if he improved much from Feisar, since he's so good anyway, and since it wasn't in an 8-player race, where being behind at the start can create the most severe problems.

    Lots of AG-S+ players on the Phantom podiums these past few days. Tonight and last night, almost all the races I've been in had first, second, and third place using some form of AG-S, and I was usually in third with AG-S+. The handling is not as good, but that 95 thrust works very well for me in Eliminators and, whether I like it or not, it's the craft I'm most comfortable with right now.

    EG-X on Zone Battle, though, is working out quite nicely for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProblemSolver View Post
    If I were able to manage the last BR on TJ Rev. it would be enough
    for rank 1. Unfortunately, I cannot pull hard BR constantly.
    Probably, but you must improve first your time without that last BR. I managed a 21.62 with only one BR and multiple laps at 21.6X before i finally succeeded in that BR to improve at 21.54. Yes the last BR can help to a rank 1 but you must also be on a 21.6X potentially lap ! You definitely must try fury icaras for that track !

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    One day i switched from HD Icaras to Harimau+ and improved most of my records (venom ones too which is a total overuse ). When Fury came out i hated new Icaras really, i couldn't pull a good lap with it but now thing are getting better.

    Actually i'm working on Sol2 Phantom speed lap. I tried many ships but my new PB 18.66 i got with Fury AG-SYS (chasing Wotan's 18.77 HD AG-SYS ghost). This ship goes well on this track, i feel it have a higher speed in corners compared to Fury's Harimau and Feisar. Last night i used Fury Icaras and i got 18.xx couple of times. Its damn fast on the first half of the track but then all advantage is lost. I will give it a try tonight and i hope 18.50 will be beaten Will try to make a vid also

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vartazian View Post
    AG SYS+ is Garbage compared to the AG SYS HD.
    This.

    Likewise with FEISAR vs. FEISAR+. I would really love to ride FEISAR+, but....

    Quote Originally Posted by Koleax View Post
    I saw PS in the old school AG-S tonight. Hard to tell if he improved much from Feisar, since he's so good anyway, and since it wasn't in an 8-player race, where being behind at the start can create the most severe problems.
    After some hours using AG-SYS, I can say I will improve a lot. Unfortunately,
    AG-SYS's thrust advantage kills FEISAR altogether. If you know how to take a
    turn, then the thrust will make all of the difference. FEISARs agility isn't of
    any help / advantage here.

    @leungbok: Yeah I think I can do a 21.6x (even with FEISAR, atm 21:77). I tried
    Icaras+ but I don't like it. I tried Harimau+, very nice! Got to 21:76 without
    much effort and still have room for improvements. I also think that the last BR
    will only cut off the time by about two tenth of a second. Hence, doing a 21:6x
    should be a prerequisite -- like you said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeldar2097 View Post
    Wellington didn't make mistakes

    ...never ever
    Thats cos the man was a machine.

    I suck as feisar, no matter how much i try.

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    a bit like wotan...I've only ever seen him make one mistake...ever!
    he eliminated himself at the chenghou hairpin

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    I can beat wotan!!
    ...sometimes xD

    Though havnt raced him in a long, long time.

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    ProblemSolver, you said you've beaten the best players on some fury tracks,
    but I think some of them don't really master those tracks. At least next time we
    play, try to choose HD tracks, I haven't had time to practice on the Fury ones
    yet for instance. About FEISAR/AG-SYS, there isn't so much difference, just
    watch the TT or SL you can accomplish with both ships, I don't think it will
    really matter in a race.

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    @Connavar. PS has gotten pretty good at racing the fury tracks Ill give him that. Ive noticed his best is TJR (Which also happens to be my weakest) also it seems hes been practicing modesto. He managed to beat me on Reverse by .06 seconds but he still has to beat me on forward And I definatley know the fury tracks.

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    I still suck balls at fury tracks besides TJ. Modesto & Amphesium, both forwards and backwards, are just a nightmare for me.

    Thinking about it im not that great at tech de ra either really need to get practicing at some point.

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