View Poll Results: do you want a negcon to be released for the ps3

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Thread: Bring Back The NegCon Controller For The Ps3 !

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    Default Bring Back The NegCon Controller For The Ps3 !

    I'm hoping some wipeout developers down at liverpool studios hear our calls and speak to sony and namco on our behalf and bring back a wireless version of the NegCon controller for the ps3 for us to enhance the future of wipeout gameplay.

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    doh how do i fix a spelling mistake in the pole section.
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    Right, firstly - I removed all but one of the exclamation marks from your thread title. There really is no need for that kind of thing unless you're 13 years old and posting on a different site. Here we like clarity in the thread titles and it's not appreciated.

    Secondly, your third and fourth options have been removed - the third because it's simply another "yes", and the fourth option of "candy" was totally pointless. If you're even the least bit serious about starting a poll in the first place, don't go throwing in stupid options.

    I guess I should also add that Namco do not support the original NegCon any longer, so there are no libraries for integrating it with modern games. Who you really should be lobbying is Namco - imploring them to produce a new version of the NegCon, rather than expecting game developers to put the time and effort into supporting a peripheral that isn't even supported by the company that made it.

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    I don't want to be a black cloud around here as I have made some bad posting mistakes in my short life here and I am sorry for them, I will try harder to conform

    I'd love a new neGcon, but I don't think it's going to happen
    the least we need is an idea of what we want



    again, I really don't think it's going to happen so I think who ever wants one for the PS3 will have to make one them self, it can't be that hard

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    Regardless of how completely unlikely and unrealistic, I am still forced to enter this poll. (yes of course!)

    The neGcon was a gimmicky controller because it was compatible with so few games, and was in direct competition with the DualShock - let's face it, rumble rules!

    That being said, it's been a really long time since those neggies were manufactured and I'm sure that a redesigned neggie with vibration added in and a couple extra buttons would really blow the minds of a lot of people. Not just the few of us in the world who still own some and use it for only one type of game.

    If Fanatec can make a go of manufacturing "different" controllers like the Speedster Controller, which doesn't even have any specific game company sponsoring (that I'm aware of), there's no reason Namco or Sony couldn't. Their problem would be the extra marketing, research, blah blah...it all comes down to making the bottom line very, very black.

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    Not really, I feel it would be largely unnecessary for the modern day Wipeouts, you need pitch control but not like the older games required it. I'm not saying thats a bad thing either.

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    I think the Negcon has had its day. Its a good controller (recently got one myself), but the limited availabilty and high price of actually owning one means only a low percentage of players will actually own one.

    With the tilt function of the PS3 pad, i'm sure something functional could be used, but I really think it should be left alone now.

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    hmm too many NEGative posts in this thread

    the basic control pad design has not changed from ps1 to ps3 it just been enhanced with rumble analog and motion.

    then Negcon was unique for wipeout because of its percision and every time you twisted it it realy felt like you were twisting with the ship down the tracks.

    motion is too lagie and does not offer a zero point or pitch adjustment and the analogue stick is too clumsy

    the only thing i can see that could give the neggie a run for it's money is a fully fledged flight sim style analog joystick. but even that would be abit slow an clumsy like a big old nasty steering wheel.

    wipeout is so quick and fast that it requires somthing small and precise and the only thing i've ever found that offers that is the neggie.

    If liverpool and namco can released a negcon/wipeout bundle.

    The NegCon and Wipeout go togehter like
    warhawk and the head set or guitarheros and the guitar.

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    as the current ps3 hardware already has analogue triggers, I think the need to elaborate on that is now gone.
    The thumb buttons are still analogue in the same way as on the PS2 as far as I know.
    There is nothing stopping another hardware manufacturer from creating a new negcon style device that doesn't require special "drivers", one where the twist action simply sends left analogue l/r signals, and maybe the thumb buttons have a longer range of motion. look at the fanatec speedster for an example of what I mean.
    That would be my ideal, because it would work with everything, including playing w3o on my ps3 via backwards compatibility.

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    agree with Lion.

    my vote is a qualified "yes". There is a contradiction and fundamental flaw in the first 3 wipeouts: at that time it was a game that demanded a level of control that the standard controller that it was to be played with, the Sony one, couldn`t provide. For many people, this controller wasn`t good enough for the game that had been made, hence the popularity of the Negcon. Pure and Pulse are very successful in that they manage to work well with default controller (they have to do, obviously). WipEout, for instance, can just feel frustrating with a standard Sony controller and I think this is the feeling that should be avoided in HD, one way or another.

    If we`re asking "should HD be compatible with Negcons?" the answer is no, for me. It would not be practical or sensible to make the best possible performance in the game dependent on using an obsolete controller that easily falls apart and isn`t in production any more.

    If we`re asking "should we have a form of control that gives us the kind of control a negcon offers" the answer is yes of course. Negcons give you independent control of steering and pitch, and precise analogue steering input that a dpad or Playstation stick can`t rival - just what you need for a game that`s super-fast and requires absolute control. If the sixaxis is good enough for HD we`ll all be happy, if not then HD will really deserve something better and I hope it gets it. A new model wireless neg with four shoulder buttons is just a fantasy, but maybe some other option will come along.

    It also depends on the way the HD game is made, and whether the Sixaxis will allow you to do everything that the game`s physics allows you to do. With WipEout and 2097 you feel as if it was made for the Negcon, whether it was or not. When playing with a Negcon on these games, you feel like the only thing stopping you doing what you want to do is your skill and training. The Neggie will let you do it. With a Sony controller, the controller itself is limiting what is possible, on the first games in the series at least. If HD avoids this feeling there won`t be such a need for another controller anyway.
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    The Negcon is long since dead - Namcos decision

    As such it wont be supported in HD or any future Wipeout


    If Namco release a new Negcon, then who knows, but I doubt they will

    sorry

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