Spilskinanke Phantom Challenge: The Fastest With The Slowest

[Lance]

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i suppose the Australians are wondering why the challenge hasn't started already.

G'Kyl's recent challenge on PK was about lap time; but this one is about racetime.

the challenge is for both Time Trial and Single Race. for Single Race, as usual, all weapons and computer driven ships must be enabled.

please post all times in one post and edit to add the results of new runs. you can leave the times for all of your best runs; you don't need to delete the old ones if you don't want to. [comments during the course of the competition may be posted separately, of course, but keep your times together so we can follow them easily] if you wish to do it, post times for every lap of your best runs. this may increase the happiness of those of us who find fastest lap the most interesting part of competition, but the official winners of the two race modes will be the ones with the fastest overall times.

The Conditions:
game: 2097 or XL
track: Spilskinanke
class: Phantom
ship: Feisar
shortcuts: not allowed
[ why? 2097 has been adjudged by those who have raced both it and XL as being 'floatier' and therefore easier to do shortcuts with. in order to equalise the competition between the two versions, we will use the stick-to-tracks approach. apart from that float factor and possibly the braking-on-boostpads technique, which also favours 2097, the two versions of the game seem to be quite equal. so there will be no handicapping of the times.]
duration: starting from now and going through this weekend through next weekend. cutoff time for posting results will be midnight California time, which is GMT minus 8 hours, on Sunday, June 27.

any comments and questions about the conditions? did i neglect to mention something important?
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[G'Kyl]

TIMES UPDATE

SATURDAY
TT: 2:33.3
SR: 2:52.9

SUNDAY
TT: 2:31.9
TT: 2.31.1
TT: 2:28.8
TT: 2:27.8 (30.7 29.6 29.1 29.2 29.2)
SR :2:42.6
SR: 2:42.1

WEDNESDAY
TT: 2:27.7
TT: 2:27.2 (30.6, 29.2, 29.1, 29.0, 29.3)
SR: 2:41.9


Current FLs are TT 0:28.8 and SR 0:29.6.


I knew I would become aware of my telepathic skills one of these days. I was just thinking 'This must be about the time Lance will have put up his challenge' just before I hit the "Reload" button on my browser. ;-)

Well, I'm up for it and will update my times in this post. Will start running as soon as I find the time. And I am anxious to see how a Feisar flies... :)

Ben

EDIT: The Feisar is a funny ship. Feels like Piranha light. ;) Actually, this is the first time I touched a craft other than the Qirex and also the first time I did Single Race in order to fly fast race/lap times. I really should have done this before, it adds more color to the WO experience. :)

[yuusen]

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¥ TIME SHEET
19/06/04

• TT = 2:59.8 [ 34.6 | 32.5 | 35.1 | 35.0 | 42.6 ]
  TT = 2:56.6 [ 32.3 | 36.8 | 34.2 | 33.3 | 40.0 ]

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[Task]

Might I reiterate that this is my _least_ favourite track?
Euch, all these broken-up sections...

Well, it's still a challenge. 8 )

My very first attempt at Time Trial yielded a record. Which goes to show you how often I race this track.

Anyway, a couple first attempts has yielded about 3:10 in each division.
Race: 3:09.8
TT: 3:10.1

Now the hilarious part is that this was good enough to give me 5th and 3rd place in the tables! Just behind Lance both times.

The other thing that this has given me is the knowledge that at least 2:30 shouldn't be too difficult to attain. And I'm not sure if I'll even make it there. Yet I shall try!

[Lance]

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Friday
TT - 2:44.3 [33.5 - 31.9 - 32.3 - 33.2 - 33.4]
TT - 2:42.3 [32.7 - 33.0 - 32.0 - 31.2 - 33.4]
TT - 2:41.5 [31.9 - 31.9 - 33.3 - 32.9 - 31.5]
SR - 2:56.0 [34.6 - 36.3 - 35.2 - 36.1 - 33.8]
SR - 2:51.5 [FL - 33.1 in this race]

Saturday
TT - 2:40.6 [32.2 - 30.7 - 31.2 - 33.1 - 32.2]
TT - 2:37.7 [31.2 - 32.0 - 30.0 - 31.5 - 33.0]
TT - 2:32.1 [30.9 - 30.3 - 29.8 - 30.8 - 30.3]
SR - 2:47.6 [32.8 - 35.6 - 32.0 - 34.6 - 32.6]
SR - 2:45.4 [34.5 - 33.1 - 31.4 - 35.0 - 31.4]
SR - 2:42.7 [32.8 - 30.6 - 35.2 - 32.4 - 31.7]

second Saturday
TT - 2:28.9 [30.6 - 29.6 - 29.9 - 29.4 - 29.4]
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[Wiseman]

Might I reiterate that this is my _least_ favourite track?
Euch, all these broken-up sections...

Ahh, but all those broken up sections are what helps make the track so great! Heh, you must really detest ManorTop then, as it's the most broken-up track in Wipeout history.

Anyway, this challenge sounds interesting. I'll have to give it a go, if I get a chance to. Racing a Feisar on Porta Kora was weird enough as it is; racing it on Spilskinanke should be very weird indeed...

First attempt:

TT - 2:38.2 [30.8]

[G'Kyl]

Just a short question: Does brake tapping work with non-Piranha crafts? I figured it helps little if anything at all when on Qirex, but what about Feisar and others?
I can't play at the moment, so I thought why not ask the experts. :)

By the way, I believe a race time of 2:2x.x is well possible in this challenge.
Which makes me wonder when we'll see Assayeah add his first records... ;)

Ben

[Asayyeah]

Hi everyone's, i will start this afternoon this great challenge organized by Lance ( btw it seems you are actually the leader :wink: )
Before starting it , my old SR times with Feisar in Spil ( with weapons) was 2.35.8 and 29.0 done at least 4 or 5 years ago.
Ive understood for that challenge no shorcuts are allowed ( stick to the track way of racing to equalize the chance for everyones) and enable weapons and ships in SR.
Good i will post post my first attempt in few minutes...

EDIT136.5 / 34.4 / 32.1 / 34.3 / 31.2 ... 2.48.5 SR
32.9 / 29.1 / 30.8 / 31.0 / 29.0 2.32.8 TT

In TT i use the turbo weapon each time at the end of the track just before the last fracture of the track ( i didn't cross the wall )
In response to G'Kyl question about brakking technique, it seems it works again but the benefit is thin

EDIT2 about TT ( the first four lap : PL, i hit a wall during lap5)
30.5 / 29.0 / 28.7 / 29.2 / 30.6....2.28.0

to G'Kyl if you are talking about my SR time i only do 2 PL in that first attempt : lap 3 and 5 but it was only my first attempt let's see that in few moments ( it will be hard to avoid all the missiles from the ships and 5PL will be hard to acheive but my aim is 'killing ' my old score, now ...( i am 13 sec more actually with 2.48.5) ( sorry G'Kyl i just understanding now your question about lap 1 in TT and yes it was a big mistake , i hit the wall one big time for my lap1 32.9, sorry not understood that before ops: )

quite interresting...ive done a race in TT without using any turbo to see ...result 1.32.1 ( 31.2 / 30.1 / 30.4 / 30.3 / 30.1)

TT : 2.25.0 :29.7 / 28.5 / 29.3 / 28.6 / 28.9
SR : 2.47.6 : 34.1 / 30.7 / 33.6 / 32.8 / 36.4
SR : 2.44.8 : 31.0 / 30.1 / 36.4 / 35.9 / 31.4
SR : 2.44.2 : 31.8 / 30.1 / 33.8 / 32.7 / 35.8 + 1 contender elimitated ( plasma bolt)
SR : 2.38.4 : 32.8 / 31.0 / 31.2 / 33.0 / 30.4
SR : 2.36.6 : 31.1 / 32.0 / 30.2 / 32.9 / 30.4
End of challenge is close....
TT : 2.24.8 : 29.9 / 28.7 / 28.8 / 28.7 / 28.7
TT : 2.24.2 : 30.2 / 28.7 / 28.5 / 28.4 / 28.4
SR :2.34.9 : 30.9 / 29.2 / 31.1 / 33.0 / 30.7
TT : 2.23.8 : 29.8 / 28.3 / 28.7 / 28.2 / 28.8
SR : 2.32.5 : 29.4 / 30.8 / 29.4 / 30.6 / 32.3 ( At least 5 turbo weapons ... but hit bottoms of few ships ... with 5 PL and at least 5 turbo it could be possible to be under 1.30.0 )
SR : 2.27.7 : 29.6 / 28.8 / 29.2 / 29.3 / 30.8

[G'Kyl]

Great! Five tenth of a second. This ruined my day. How am I gonna enjoy the party I'll be going to after work?! ;-)

Arnaud, did you do 5 PLs or was there a mistake in lap 1?

EDIT: Yep, the turbo doesn't do as much as on other tracks. Also, Spils is one of the tracks where the two-turbos-a-race-technique can be used to only little advantage. So unfortuanate! *g*
2:28.0, kewl. Now I feel bad. ;)

[Lance]

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[Looks at Arnaud's times.] *gulp*
well...
it's always good to have a goal....

adding up my best laptimes in TT so far, it comes to 2:36.5
oh, my. even perfect me would still leave so far to go

but i'll keep trying
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[Asayyeah]

ive filmed by my digital camera 70 sec ( the maxi allowed by it) from the end of my record ( lap3's end, lap4 & lap 5), and sent it to Steven through Msn Messenger.
Mano was the second to have it...( Sunday 1 am GMT ) :wink:

In a close future , i will create my own site for free with 100 Mb of storage ( so that i will be able to put many videos each week on it ), ive already downloaded Dreamweaver & cute ftp but it seems it is not really easy to understand how to do it correctly ( especially cute ftp), but i will succeed ... :roll: .... one thing i am totally a newbee : :

edit Thanks both of you 2 for advices i will see that next week ( 1 hour per day after job, i hope next week-end it will be open for everyone)

[Lance]

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cuteFTP used to be spyware back when i looked at it a couple of years ago. you might want to check to see if it still is

please post all your times in the same post. just keep editing
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[yuusen]

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check if your version of dreamweaver has built in ftp to save you a lot of hassle. if it is an mx version, it will have it.
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[Asayyeah]

:wink:

[stin]

Lance that is helliva great scores

My scores are down at the moment;

TT 3,19.5

LT 36.7

EDIT TT = 2:46.4 and lap time= 31.7
SR 2,58.2

LP 32.9


But I will keep going and not for long due very important on golf which I must practice for my championship!

stin

PS Arnauld: nobody can compete with you in any game!!!

[Lance]

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thanks, stin
btw, how do you find XL compared to 2097? differences?

[looks at all the scores] eek! yesterday i was ahead of G'Kyl's TT, though not Arnaud's, and was ahead of Arnaud's SR time. i see that they have been busy. those dang Europeans and their sneaky early time zones! i shall have to get busy when once i am truly awake again. fie on thee, foul demons!
[great work guys! ]
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[G'Kyl]

Yeah, and while us sneasky Europeans will already be asleep next Sunday, dreaming of our pretty positions in the tables, you will still be racing until 12pm PST...! ;) By the way: When the heck do you get up?!? ;-))
Let me say that I sincerely enjoy this challenge, Lance. Great choice of track, class and ship!

[Lance]

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today i got up at 12:30. typical lately. 1230 to 1430 is pretty common. i stay up on the internet doing things till about 4 or 5 or 6 in the morning. last night i quit racing early and watched a movie on tv and watched more tv after that while looking at data on old firearms. i love the american small arms stuff from about 1860 to 1895. firearms in general is an interesting technical subject. the engineering design aspect of technology is my main pursuit, my main interest in life, though there are a zillion other things i'm interested in. but i digress. as usual
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[G'Kyl]

Which I have no problem with. :) Personally, I never understood what fascinates people in old technology, especially weaponry. I always got hooked on the "designer stuff" in SciFi media. Hence, for insignificant amount, my interest in the genre of futuristic racing games and Wipeout in particular. ;)
As for when we play, I prefer to go to bed early so I can get up early. Unfortuanately, my level of concentration starts decreasing rapidly after 12pm.

[Lance]

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i usually don't have any concentration till about 16:00 or 17:00. this makes the accomplishment of everyday practical things more problematic. not to mention that i detest everyday practical things.

i think part of the appeal of old technology is its simplicity relative to our current level. and there is always a temptation and possibility to redesign old things in the light of what we know now, but which could have been accomplished with the tools and materials they had then.

i began reading science-fiction long ago, partly for escapism from the dullness of ordinary life, but also my love of technology was already manifesting itself, and the sense of possibility, of new design, was intoxicating.

but we are getting into things that have only indirect, though consequential, contact with the Spilkinanke Phantom Challenge: The Fastest With The Slowest
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