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    Default Important questions before purchasing the game

    Hello, I played a lot of Wipeout HD on PS3 and I still play it sometimes. I've just purchased a PS4 and I'm really interested in buying Wipeout Omega (I've never played 2048 and I'd like to compete online). But I need some informations first! Can you help me?

    1- Is this game still alive online? Will I find online matches easily? (i'm really interested in multiplayer)

    2- Should i buy a physical copy (20€ in my country) or digital one (14€ on PS store)? Is there any advantage/disadvantage? (it can seem a dumb question but i am extremely new to PS4 world!)

    3- I play on a 1080p monitor: will it run smoothly on a PS4 slim? Are there disadvantages against PS4 Pro players? (more frame rates, etc...)

    Thank you for the attention!

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    Hey I guess I'll hjack your thread as I have a similar question.

    I'm totally new to the PS4. I Played 2097 and Wip3Out Special Edition to hell and back and thought I'd buy myself a present =)

    Same questions #2 and #3.

    Additionally, is there a "nose cam" view in Omega Collection?



    I haven't watched this thoroughly yet, I'm not sure it answers question 3:

    WipEout Omega Collection: PS4/Pro/PS3/Vita - Graphics Comparison + Frame-Rate Test

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    Somewhat addressing #1

    https://old.reddit.com/r/WipeOut/comments/a62l1k/wipeout_omega_online_still_active/


    Trying to answer #3 based on this video above:

    - "the main difference is resolution, visuals are mainly the same"
    - PS4 = native 1080p with some kind of 4xAA
    - PRO adds true 4K resolution + HDR
    - "even on demanding circuits with lots of weapons, NEITHER console buckles from 60 FPS" "rock solid on BOTH ps4 machines, with vsync always engaged"

    Annoyingly the video compares PS4 Pro with Vita, so it doesn't clarify whether things like "global illumination" or full shadows are also on the PS4

    It isn't clear if the textures are also the highest res on the PS4 version.

    If I understand correctly, Pro on a 1080p means you have "downsampling" 4K is downsampled to 1080p, which should be an improvement also on a 1080p screen.. however I doubt it's noticeable in this type of game (not like you're gonna pause and take screenshots as you would in Skyrim).

    My hunch is I'll get the PS4 Slim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by santuz_rocks View Post
    2- Should i buy a physical copy (20€ in my country) or digital one (14€ on PS store)? Is there any advantage/disadvantage? (it can seem a dumb question but i am extremely new to PS4 world!)
    2- Depends if you like physical copies, most of us here do, as we are hardcore WipEout fans. The different case designs are pretty cool at that! No real disadvantage getting the physical copy, you’ll just have to download the update before you can play, but you’d have to download the full game from the PSN anyway if you bought the digital version. And given the small price difference, I’d definitely go for the physical copy.

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    It plays absolutely fluid in every scenario on a PS4slim, and i would recommend the digital version, cause you'll get an extra ship (Van Uber)! The online is pretty much dead nowadays, which is a shame...if you plan to get a PSVR some day, you'll have an absolute 'killer application' with Omega collection!!!!!

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    To answer the OP directly:

    1) - unfortunately, not really. There are still people playing, but it's either kids fooling around in combat mode or the hardest of the hardcore racers on HD Phantom. It will be difficult to find a good entry-level race, especially in wipEout 2048 (I still don't understand why everyone plays the - in my opinion less suited to multiplayer - wipEout HD/fury)

    2) - if you like things sitting on your shelf, or if you enjoy having to put things into things to switch games, then yes. Otherwise please get the digital copy, it's cheaper AND you get an extra ship.

    3) - YES it will run buttery smooth on 1080p. NO, no disadvantage at all against PS4PRO - UNLESS you have a 4K TV or want to try the absolutely, mindblowingly amazing PSVR mode, in which case YES, a PS4SLIM will give out a lower res image. No difference in framerate though.

    Hope that helps and see you online maybe!

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    Talking about resolution differences between Pro and Slim/Fat, has anybody played with PSVR on both to have a comparison? Is the difference like really visible, or a minor one?

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    @Revo: Your brain does the upscaling for you This is no joke!
    Everyone was telling me 'you'll see the pixel grid...blah, blah', but VR is so intense, that you won't notice any pixel structure.
    I'll wait for PS5 to arrive before i upgrade, cause it'll be much more powerful than a PRO is. It'll be 100% backwards compatible to PS4/PRO/PSVR for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revo View Post
    Talking about resolution differences between Pro and Slim/Fat, has anybody played with PSVR on both to have a comparison? Is the difference like really visible, or a minor one?
    Only certain tracks, and only on a very few points on those tracks, do you have any perceivable difference when using a PSVR via a PS4 or PS4Pro, it's the resolution of the PSVR that is the limiting factor, the Omega Pack is probably the best looking and Playing PSVR game available ATM, and I have most of them to compare it against.

    When playing on a 4K TV the differences are easier to see, but it depends on your point of view if the 4K PSPRO version is better or not [not cockpit view by the way], sure it looks more detailed, but the main difference is that if the P4Pro detects a 4K TV it will tell the TV to switch to the REC2020 colour space, which is a extended range colour space, on a standard PS4 it would be the REC709 colour space, also when that colour space is engaged it will tell the TV to use the max brightness available to it's HDR pre-programmed limit, this brightness limit varies depending on the TV Type [LCD/LED,QLED or OLED] and the TV manufacturers use of a process called 'Tone Mapping' [It's a marketing Spec war with brightness level, don't believe the hype]
    https://www.avforums.com/article/wha...-mapping.13883

    Anyway, what this leads to is the brightest parts of the game can appear blindingly bright, things like explosions of Bombs, Mines, rockets etc can really disorientate you with this bright flash.....fine, they are haphazard events during gameplay.
    Where this brightness becomes an annoyance, and this only seems to happen is racing games because you are constantly going past the same places multiple times, is where track design has placed a bright scene or object that blinds you every time you pass it, the Sunset on the first turn of HD's Vineta K forward being a prime example, it's like driving home from work every afternoon and not having a sun visor you can flip down.

    On TRUE 4K action / RPG's the PS4Pro really shines on a 4K TV, and if you have it set up correctly [amazing how many people just plug in and hope for the best without going into the TV or PS4Pro's settings], games like Horizon Zero Dawn, Destiny 2, Far Cry 5 etc the extended colour space and brightness really makes things seem more realistic if the game builders have used it well.

    There are a few games being released that are saying they are 4k but actually aren't, Red Dead Redemption 2 and Fallout 76 being two, this is NOT doing the gaming industry any favors, and I hope they get their arses sue'd for false advertising.
    False HDR on Fallout 76
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE-_3aabOU8
    Red Dead Redemption 2 analysis
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJgXQ3qNg74&t=334s

    How it should be done...Destiny 2 4K analysis.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAMKhgbN9lM&t=274s
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