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That's a stupid rule. I don't have a Wipeout 3 Special Edition Copy that can run on a PS2. I will create my own "open door" championship.
I'm sorry but any rule against emulation is like angering Auricom by ignoring Belmondo's philosophy. Is this a legal concern? Because I don't follow. Again I'm, trying to not end up like Holst McQueen, banned from AG Systems for falling out over the company's projected path. I just want to compete, end of story. I don't have any Wipeout games other than the ISO I got from *deleted*. I used to have Wip3out, but it got damaged over time, it won't play anymore without freezing in mid race, it's trashed.
I owe you guys an apology for this post, I'm trying not to be a disgrace. Right now, this post has made me an "unknown quantity at this point". I don't want to go down in reputation any further. If I must I'll play the game on official hardware, if not without some help from my Breaker Pro Disc. But first I need a legit copy of WO3 SE, any leads or vendors?
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The reason why emulation isn't allowed is because there isn't an online competition option for the older games and so we have to compare times, which doesn't work when emulation runs the games at different speeds than official copies and official machines.
The rule therefore is there to not provide anyone with an unfair advantage, i.e. it's not a stupid rule.
I'm sure you didn't knwo that this was the case so I'm assuming you didn't need to be rude but it really is about making sure everyone gets an equal opportunity to do well.
EDIT - lol we must really have hit enter like a second apart there :g
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The reason for not allowing ISO files is to standardise the games for everyone. Emulators are capable of running the game at various speeds, and may inadvertantly provide someone with an advantage. There are even time differences between different versions of the game running on an original console. As long as they are running on official hardware it is possible for Al to convert the times from one version to another. This is not possible with an emulator, which is why emulated times are also not allowed on the leaderboards here
EDIT - Damn you Oryx :P
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A used copy of wo3 costs less than 5 bucks, and will run on a ps2. The prices for fusion, 1 and XL are similar
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Well, regardless of variation found in emulation, I can control that in my own championship. No times will be posted on the leaderboards, but they will have several guidelines to eliminate such variation:
Must run Windows 7 since there will be a lot more variation of performance on older Windows OS.
Must use ePSXe 1.7.0
Must use the OpenGL video plugin.
Must use the Eternal SPU plugin.
Must use SCPH1001.BIN for their BIOS.
Must use Magic Joybox, or whatever will help you play with a Dualshock controller on your PC.
Must use Fraps.
Of course, that's how I would regulate the WO3SE Emulation Domination Cup. A tournament in which, the only rule you have to follow other than to not use cheats, is maintain a framerate of 25-30 FPS throughout the entire emulation.
It's not about hall of fame records in this tournament, it's about participation for the pheasants. If your game emulates faster than the how I want it to emulate, don't bother to take part. Great, now I sound like a hypocrite. The point is, someone has to host an emulation cup for us pheasants (those without the money nor resource to compete like the rest should). It won't be for hall of fame titles or leaderboard rights, it's just for kicks. I'll be starting a thread about this new emulation league soon, do not be afraid to make suggestions.
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Indeed, though rule should be: U must have PC capable of running PSX games on emulator and framerate limit set to 60 fps in emu options and PC must be able to run Fraps and PSX Emu together without FPS drops... it is just impossible to make something fair if there are many possibilities to cheat and u can't check if someone is not cheating imo.
btw. I guess that i can take part in only 3 wipeout championships then :P (WOHD, Pulse, Pure)
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Why are you being insulting? Pheasants. I dont think 15$ is too much money for the original trilogy, especially considering that is sounds like you have a nice computer worth 50 - 100 times that. I dont want emulation because the framerate can be set to be MUCH better, BUT the main thing is I cannot test it to see. Its already going to hard enough as it is to get converted times. If you played on the psp, that might be possible AS I could test that, and i do believe that it may run exactly the same.
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Fine, I'll just drop it before I cause more drama.
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look Arch it's not a bad thing to offer your ideas, but you must realize you sound antagonistic towards Al when you say you're gonna open a rival competition, the whole idea with this championship is to give us all a chance to test our mettle against each other in everything that is wipeout.
But for the reasons explained above, it's next to impossible for Al alone to curate and keep an eye on the competition when he has to keep track of the way the game plays on such widely varying platforms.
If we can't maintain control and order the competition element of the competition disappears, don't take it personally mate.
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KiTTun wants some pheasants! ;) Darn, so many tourneys, so little time...