I haven't seen Wizardplay since HD/Fury on PS3. But onlykpop is still around. He goes by celestialemotion now.
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That would explain the run in and close loss I had with them the other day! Glad to know it's him.
Well, it's a lot easier to learn Venom than Phantom, but it's also a lot easier to master Phantom than Venom, because of all the advanced SS/BR combo stuff Venom offers. No offense intended here, just a very straight explanation of how i see it.
Agreed. Take nothing away from phantom racers though, to nail the lines consistently is very skilful.
I'm so glad the slow rollers crowd came out! I totally agree with just about all the points you guys (Booney and JF) are making. I'm average to slightly better than average at Phantom. I've spent more time devoted to learning how to be an acrobat.
It is SOOO much easier to learn venom and SOOO much more difficult to master. In my experience, to succeed on venom, you have to pretty much take risks all the time that will cause you to lose to an average pilot if you mess up. Those shortcuts require precision, as do the triple rolls. At least with Phantom if you slide out of a line you can recover. One missed shortcut and it's game over on venom!
I'd love to do a Venom Masters thing. I don't mind fighting for 3rd place. Do you guys feel that with all the rolls that sometimes you feel like you are racing at Flash or even Rapier speed on average for a track with lots of rolls?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYa4cjAB2Yw
it's not just a feeling, it's real :mr-t
Would love a venom masters tournament, standard racing and some pure racing too.
count me in as well, im sure texasalex is in too
Ok, i'm in. wait for me, please :P im gonna borrow a ps4 from my friend. Lol
@JF: On PS3 HD, it was on one track even closer :)
Vineta k Rev venom #1: 22.24s
Vineta k rev flash #2 : 22.13s who was even booney, so no sloth there :D
Vineta k rev flash #3: 22.50s
It happened coincidently, while pushing the maximum out of the track. I noticed it later, but actually liked the idea to be faster than most flash pilots.
But as said, i'm in for some venom/flash tournaments - in August, though. Promised.
I'll gladly fight for 3rd! I'm in!
I'd be interested in watching the "Slow Rollers Tourney". Someone please upload those we can see them.
Would we be seeing something soon @Hellfire? ;)
Sorry, been really busy. Suddenly decided to complicate my life by trying to buy a house. :)
I've been thinking over how we could do this so we might be able to have as wide an ability range taking part as possible, but it's incredibly difficult as there is such an enormous gulf between the best players and beginners. There's only one way I can forsee to try and reduce the gulf a bit - turn off barrel rolls. If they stay on we may as well just give out the awards now.
Is this something people would agree to? If we do do a tournament we MUST make sure it is as accessible as possible to everyone, not just us.
It would be good if this type of tournament is the opportunity to bring new players and allow them to shine.
And as hellfire says, there is too much difference between the top class players that we find here and the average quidam who would like to try out wipeout. For me the best solution would be that the top player does not do this tournament but that they are working to promote it.
As Hellfire and tug said, it should be the most accessible possible : forbidding top players to compete, no barrel rolls... both solutions are good IMO.
Why not apply both ? A newcomer tournament with no BRs could appeal a lot of casual players and, if we're short on players, let the top players join since the gap would be slightly reduced.
I don't think we should exclude the top players, that's a little silly. If the barrel rolls are off it just becomes about the racing lines and use of weapons, which I think should be a pretty even playing field.
Side note, happy birthday Mikahail :P
If a tournament with barrel rolls off, it wont help much imo because of skill cuts in 2048 (newer players may not know about it) Pickup RNG in 2048 (turbo spam spam and you can get 2-4 each lap no problem) and theres many spots you can use turbo in 2048 and weapons are very weak in 2048 and extremely unbalanced ships (feisar prototype on C-A on any track except sol, queens mall and altima) and AG systems on every A+ track. Yeah, 2048 has huge balancing issues
unless the tournament is HD only :P
Hellfire, is it gonna be weapons on/off/pure racing? or just weapons on?
I'm open to ideas, but I think it'll be weapons on as I can see the majority of non-elite players favouring this. Plus it does give less experienced players a chance to catch up. If we do 2048 I may suggest restrictions on craft type dependent on the game mode, and I would be willing to bet that very few of the less experienced players would be up for racing on A+.
Guess I'm out then lol. Up for promoting though no problem.
i still think there should be two tournaments
one for newer ones and one for the elite
the newer ones can have barrel rolls disabled and feisar prototype and piranha speed shouldnt be allowed imo
but the elite group the only one not allowed would be feisar prototype
the elite group can have a mix of weapon on and pure, i think 2048 would be best for pure because the RNG is very broken, you can get maybe 20 turbos a race, or you can get a few. and weapons are pretty much useless except missile
as for A+. if ag systems wasnt allowed, feisar would be the best one, feisar isnt a huge difference vs ag sys, but qirex, auricom and piranha is on A+
or make it that everyone has to use a specific ship for that race on 2048 :P
I dunno whats the plan exactly but how about gaining a list of participants?
For example everyone who likes to join [no matter what datetime exactly, just in general] can write her/his name in one of two lists: Beginners and experienced pilots. In that list, there could also be a vote option implemented for barrel rolls off or on.
Or make two tournaments for each skill. One with BRs off, another with BRs on - kinda thing...
All in all it sounds like a great idea. Would be the first tournament I can participate to :)
I think this tournament must focus on newcomers to bring more people on the franchise if possible. Top pilots can make their own elite tournament like omnium etc. But would greatly help to promote the event ;)
Maybe something that could attract people would be to create categories to have balanced levels. for example, category D : everybody can enter - category C : players with a ranking around 50000 (the average) on overall single races and time trials. category : B around 10000 etc.
The idea is to create qualifications on each category with the possibility for the best players to access the upper category.
Imo flash (c) class should be selected for the whole tournament and maybe introducing combat races which are very popular for casual players.
Just wanted to throw in my 2 cents. I like the idea of a tourney for newer and/or lesser experienced pilots. In general I'm all for anything to helps bring more players to playing WO online. It sucks firing up my PS4 at 8 or 9pm during the week and not find any lobbies. And if there is a lobby it's only like one Flash lobby with two people.
That said I'm not a huge fan of turning off BRs for a new pilot tourney. I feel like that's skill new pilots should learn/encouraged and try to master and those who do will be rewarded.