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JABBERJAW
27th October 2013, 11:54 PM
Does anyone know where to find the track layouts for this game including the overview of the track, and the elevation side view as well? I know there was a strategy guide way back that I cannot find. I have a n64 dd that I am trying to make fzero x tracks for. I really need the elevation chart.

vincoof
29th October 2013, 02:08 PM
A tong time ago I extracted the mini-tracks of WO2097 (the ones you see in the game menu) but I think these mini-tracks donít have enough precision for your needs.

JABBERJAW
29th October 2013, 11:57 PM
They may, I'll look at the menu. I just need to see where the ups and downs are. When making gare deuropa, it seems there should not be the big drop at the end.

Ok, those are probably ok. It's hard to pinpoint with it spinning so fast. Didn't realize it goes up so much before the drop, I kinda thought that was flat with bumps.

vincoof
30th October 2013, 03:12 PM
OK Iíll see if I still have them on my computer when I come back at home but I think Iíll have to re-export them. Maybe Iíll find the time to do it this weekend. Remind me to do it if I didnít reply in the next few days.

AG-wolf
5th November 2013, 03:17 PM
couldn't you load the game in an emulator and do a memory dump to get the actual model construct, then just throw it into some kind of 3D program like Maya or whatever?

Cipher
5th November 2013, 05:22 PM
getting game content out of a memory dump is haaaaaaard, you need to know which address it's at as well it's length, and most games use packages to compress multiple resources, so you'd have to decompile the package, which is also possible, but you need some pro programming /reverse engineering /hexa reading skills

I've been there, and god it's a nightmare..
it's way easier to recreate a simplistic 3D model from scratch using refs instead ;)

Cipher

vincoof
6th November 2013, 08:36 AM
getting game content out of a memory dump is haaaaaaard
This.

It is generally easier (or less hard) to get the models from the game files. Even the programmers who developed the game would have a very hard time recovering the models from memory, and they have a pretty good idea where and what to look at. Imagine us who donít have the source code of the game and who donít know how they are packed in memory before renderingÖ

PS. Donít worry Al I havenít forgotten, Iím just *cough* a bit busy at the moment.

YF19-sama
5th December 2013, 04:09 AM
There is a way using OGLE or other tools of the same kind like 3D Ripper DX http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFKOzMF-Vhw
by merging the captured files together in a 3d sofware it can be possible to get at least the mesh of the track.

Ruuku
6th December 2013, 04:13 AM
Would you be posting the result of these tracks later?

vincoof
6th December 2013, 09:17 PM
Okay Iím a bit late, but here are the minitracks I promised: 8310
Now I feel really stupid because in fact I already uploaded them last yearÖ (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?8897-Extracting-WipEout-3D-models-%28large-images-allowed%29&p=220871#post220871)
Feel free to tell me if it helps.