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kanar
20th September 2010, 11:44 AM
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(c)novide/Kyonshi
http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/picture.php?pictureid=2665&albumid=210&dl=1285759987&thumb=1 (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/album.php?albumid=210&pictureid=2665) http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/picture.php?pictureid=2664&albumid=210&dl=1285759956&thumb=1 (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/album.php?albumid=210&pictureid=2664)http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/picture.php?pictureid=2662&albumid=210&dl=1285759956&thumb=1 (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/album.php?albumid=210&pictureid=2662)
The Wipeout HD cup
All the Legendary pilots, past & present, & for the first & last time in the history of wipeout...
Reunited.
"For the record"
single race/Zone Battle
KNOCK-OUT ROUNDS/DIRECT ELIMINATIONS
THANKS YOU.

=>THE ZONE<=
YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA5TL3QN8Iw) | MegaUpload (PS3) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=55HDTQGY)
(TRIBUTE TO THE WOHDC PILOTS BY JJPAP, music:xpandrome, graphics:novide)

===> WOHDC OFFICIAL HYMN HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=186857&postcount=786)
=> TH3 BROTH3RS (Fyue3 & Ace3cube) HERE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rMSDGfTCII)
=> WipEout HD Cup (Friends in Speed) HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=183388&postcount=271)
====> (c)JJPAP(PROD)Xpandrome2097(MUSIC), Novide(Logo+animated logo):rock:rock
TEASER1 (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=182197&postcount=127) ====> (c)JJPAP(PROD)Unctuous(MUSIC), Novide(Logo+animated logo):rock:rock
TEASER2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g11kL6iQDI) (c)kanar(PROD)Novide(Logo+animated logo)
TEASER3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52QJSAfsT1A) (c)OBH(PROD)Novide(Logo+animated logo)

CUP WALLPAPERS processed by novide, from various pilots HERE (http://novide.ufohunter.net/)


DETAILED RULES IN .PDF HERE (https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B5vUkOSdapg3Y2YwM2NmNDUtOWQ2OC00Y2JiL Tg1Y2YtM2NhYWE1YWIxNWRj&hl=en&authkey=CImIiKsG)


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NICE LINKS
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http://wohdcup.sommarpojkarna.com/ (http://wohdcup.sommarpojkarna.com/)
(BIG THANKS TO Oryx_Crake for setting up this board on Challonge)

WIPEOUT HD CUP GOODIES => HERE (http://www.cafepress.com/wipeoutzone)

http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=210&pictureid=2849 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=4762257318)
www.wipeoutarena.net (http://www.wipeoutarena.net) cup topic : (French website : HERE (http://www.wipeoutarena.net/tournois-f20/the-wipeout-hd-cup-coming-this-december-t1078.htm))

http://img574.imageshack.us/img574/4645/11kestreldivisionicon.jpg (http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/6648/kestreldivisionver1.png)http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/4566/miniboardcenter1.jpg (http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/507/wipeouthdcupbackgroundc.png)http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/1522/21hawkdivisionicon.jpg (http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/6717/hawkdivisionver1.png)
(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/507/wipeouthdcupbackgroundc.png)http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/9109/12eagledivisionicon.jpg (http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7500/eagledivisionver1.png)http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7779/miniboardcenter2.jpg (http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/507/wipeouthdcupbackgroundc.png)http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/1251/22owldivisionicon.jpg (http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/8431/owldivisionver1.png)
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/5016/13falcondivisionicon.jpg (http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/8184/falcondivisionver1.png)http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/668/miniboardcenter3.jpg (http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/507/wipeouthdcupbackgroundc.png)http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/7907/23buzzarddivisionicon.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2316/buzzarddivisionver1.png)
(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/507/wipeouthdcupbackgroundc.png)http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5184/14vulturedivisionicon.jpg (http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3978/vulturedivisionver1.png)http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/176/miniboardcenter4.jpg (http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/507/wipeouthdcupbackgroundc.png)http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8393/24merlindivisionicon.jpg (http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5010/merlindivisionver1.png)
LEFT CLIC FOR BOARD PIC REDIRECTIONS (DAILY UPDATES)

http://b.imagehost.org/t/0704/WipEoutHDCupBackgroundComplete.jpg (http://fav.me/d3atovd)
GLOBAL VIEW
(c) Darkdrium/Kantham/novide, all rights reserved.

http://th06.deviantart.net/fs71/150/f/2011/199/0/a/wohdcup_bb_all_var2_by_kanaravalon-d40f6as.png (http://kanaravalon.deviantart.com/art/WOHDCUP-BB-ALL-VAR2-242572708?q=gallery%3Akanaravalon&qo=0) http://th05.deviantart.net/fs71/150/f/2011/199/7/2/wohdcup_bb_all_var1_by_kanaravalon-d40f4uu.png (http://kanaravalon.deviantart.com/art/WOHDCUP-BB-ALL-VAR1-242570838?q=gallery%3Akanaravalon&qo=1) WOHDCUP World Bling Brigade wallpapers
:rockRACING LOG HUB:clap : HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181787&postcount=5)

KESTREL / CUP COMMUNITY MANAGER : UB3R-BR3NDAGE
EAGLE / CUP COMMUNITY MANAGER : JASMIN_JADE
FALCON / CUP COMMUNITY MANAGER : KGB1971
VULTURE / CUP COMMUNITY MANAGER : KANAR
HAWK / CUP COMMUNITY MANAGER : JJPAP
OWL / CUP COMMUNITY MANAGER : TRIBOY
MERLIN / CUP COMMUNITY MANAGER : R3BU5ER
BUZZARD / CUP COMMUNITY MANAGER : BLACKWIGGLE


MASSIVE THANKS TO : Infoxicated, Oryx_Crake, ONlock, R3BU5ER, Novide, Nutcase:259, DP89, SaturnReturn, Kyonshi, JJPAP, Leungbok, Ace3cube, kaori, OBH, triboy, Darkdrium777, amplificated, unctuous, blackwiggle, Mu5, aka-sho, challenger001, Feisar31, kgb1971, Fyue, Jasmin-jade, Zoth-Ommog


===>PRIZES


Champ : Gran Turismo 5/WipEout Pulse for PS2
Runner Up : TEKKEN 6/WipEout Pure soundtrack
3rd place : CALL OF DUTY MW2/1 legendary sixaxis used by asayyeah, wotan, leungbok & kaori
4th place : NBA 2K10/1 legendary sixaxis used by asayyeah, wotan, leungbok & kaori
BEST EURO PILOT AWARD : Avatar BR (offered by Ace3cube)


(WipEout Pulse for PS2/WipEout Pure soundtrack are offered by Infoxicated)


This event is dedicated to Marcus.

UB3R~JKP
20th September 2010, 11:57 AM
I'm in you crazy crazy pilot! :nod:nod:nod:+

Colonel
20th September 2010, 12:39 PM
Definitely in. I'll contact a few of my online friends who I know don't come on here and were unaware of the first cup.

ONlock
20th September 2010, 01:34 PM
I'm up for this.

But may I give a tip to the rules this time?

Best of three, maybe? And fixed decider map?

Edit: btw kanar. If you need help with anything, pm me. I could help if it's needed.

kanar
20th September 2010, 01:40 PM
RACING LOGS REDIRECTIONS

1St ROUND

@ vulture
Kigo1987 Vs DirtyWaffle HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188834&postcount=1055)
Zoth-Ommog Vs Metakraken HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188917&postcount=1069)
drr1984 Vs Emix21 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188922&postcount=1072)
Deepmix Vs Afuroky HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189046&postcount=1094)
Indoorsnowstorm Vs Blinky77 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189061&postcount=1097) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189062&postcount=1098)
Aka-sho Vs Capitankiros HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189388&postcount=1141)
Erich123 Vs Meesiash HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189696&postcount=1200)
Wreckedge Vs Xifdo HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190185&postcount=1282)
eRZed Vs xdjope HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190514&postcount=1330)
Tar-Elendil Vs Kanar HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190552&postcount=1339)
Amplificated Vs Damigisan HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190618&postcount=1350) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190679&postcount=1358)
Rezatron Vs MiguelX69 (6-0)
skrotos32 => FASTPATH
Jpa2097 Vs Catanterz HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191793&postcount=1538)
Vartazian Vs Matplayer1 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192072&postcount=1592)
Shindubhe & Radiumx were both MIA.
@ owl
Danterich Vs NielsB90 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188841&postcount=1056)
Skynet_t_x Vs Kat-kun HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188915&postcount=1068)
Tiduch Vs Carleo76 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189085&postcount=1102)
TarquinFarqhuar Vs Novaharvest HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189395&postcount=1143)
Miizu3 Vs oX_mima_Xo HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189839&postcount=1212)
DreamyElf Vs FalcoPelle HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189955&postcount=1237)
DrMannevond Vs Laeke HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190434&postcount=1319)
Kaori714 Vs Xtriko HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190312&postcount=1298) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190309&postcount=1297)
Ericd7m Vs Concrete_d HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190740&postcount=1374) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190998&postcount=1412)
Lord_Rushton Vs SpaceboyG HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190719&postcount=1367) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190716&postcount=1366)
Triboy Vs Connavar HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190747&postcount=1375) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191296&postcount=1461)
DialGiX => FASTPATH
Shapealot Vs Trinity17 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191024&postcount=1419)
Fyue3 => FASTPATH
GrzesPL => FASTPATH
Freeman1021 => FASTPATH
@ eagle
dariusz1230 Vs Kurlija HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188918&postcount=1070)
Hellfire_wz Vs Pahlan HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189525&postcount=1180)
Ace-Flo Vs DividedXzero HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189533&postcount=1183)
G-Superpilot Vs Mm83944 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190025&postcount=1252)
Jasmin_jade Vs zubr_z_puszczy HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190025&postcount=1252) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190028&postcount=1254)
Bazzman32 Vs Haiku_ HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190104&postcount=1265)
SaturnReturn Vs TheGermanOne HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190293&postcount=1293)
QjonPL Vs Zelda093 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190276&postcount=1291)
Halecon Vs Silverfoxy HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190471&postcount=1322)
ShawnFrecle Vs Disruptor-Wz HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190302&postcount=1296)
Stinkleroy Vs ID_ArsNova HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190729&postcount=1371)
Unctuous Vs shiza_brownpants HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190715&postcount=1365)
Skylar-69 Vs Laubzega HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191642&postcount=1528)
Leungbok Vs N4SS3TT3 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191637&postcount=1526)
CHEE5E2EE Vs Elhabib HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191977&postcount=1568)
Enterrulez & RageousX were both MIA.
@ buzzard
Wellington86 Vs Mic-dk900 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188753&postcount=1038)+HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188767&postcount=1043)
P_Denton Vs PafDuck HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188978&postcount=1081)
Cyberio Vs Rubix42 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188979&postcount=1082)+ HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188986&postcount=1083)
Luxoflux Vs Colonel__Gaddafi HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189002&postcount=1085)
Greenix Vs Oryx_Crake HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189488&postcount=1173) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189507&postcount=1178) + VIDZ (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189997&postcount=1246)
Zero3growlithe Vs Rychu130 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189613&postcount=1188)
Morfeo378 Vs Hacenetchik HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190121&postcount=1271)
Elois-13 Vs Chalovak HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190195&postcount=1286)
ONlocke Vs Novide HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190711&postcount=1364) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190709&postcount=1363) + VIDZ (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190840&postcount=1395)
Bombel2000 Vs Meltant (4-3)
Lolode1978 Vs Fabimus (4-3)
Imre92 => FASTPATH
krzysztof1999 => FASTPATH
Blackwiggle Vs Abukii HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191193&postcount=1453)
Gamekyuubi Vs Huteer HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191432&postcount=1493) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191436&postcount=1494)
Texasalex => FASTPATH (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191636&postcount=1525)
@ hawk
Annoying_Git Vs D1GGER HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188962&postcount=1078)
DJM1ZW1Z Vs Chaos80 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189067&postcount=1100)
OBH Vs robe-94 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189345&postcount=1132)
Reezellthia Vs Storm_FF HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189392&postcount=1142)
Anderkovver Vs Nhaa123 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189404&postcount=1146)
Feisar31 Vs AIR-HEAD33 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189502&postcount=1177)
SpeedKang96 Vs archie500 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189554&postcount=1184)
Billychanxtr33m Vs Northern7 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189593&postcount=1186)
JJPAP Vs MegaGeeza22 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189618&postcount=1190) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189623&postcount=1191) + VIDZ (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190013&postcount=1249)
Kyonshi Vs Killer_kid HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189903&postcount=1225)
Challenger001 Vs TarotCardKiller HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=199007&postcount=2156)
Klocki_Lego Vs Asayyeah HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190707&postcount=1362) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190838&postcount=1393)
Kingheim Vs Maradonna74 (4-3)
Z1r0rEi Vs VENEZUELA70 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191262&postcount=1460)
Greif => FASTPATH
SpinningGenius => FASTPATH
@ falcon
Lizzy-13 Vs Docterfeelgood HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189009&postcount=1086)
Flaflasat Vs Assassin900 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189018&postcount=1087)+ HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189033&postcount=1088)
IDReaper Vs Plazarou HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189082&postcount=1101)
KGB1971 Vs HamsterPL HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189560&postcount=1185)
JFthebestJan Vs Aresgracz HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189617&postcount=1189)
Alteregorr Vs Infoxicated HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189657&postcount=1192) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189703&postcount=1201)
Frailavi Vs MrOrbital HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189847&postcount=1213)
Yeldar2097 Vs Kundox1 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190189&postcount=1284) + VIDZ (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190341&postcount=1303)
Under_the_mayo Vs Lastchancer HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190220&postcount=1288)
Amorbis Vs Someguy789 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190419&postcount=1312) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190431&postcount=1318)
Albez93 Vs Tomcatziggy HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190515&postcount=1331)
Chesterknight Vs Slowtrain HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191189&postcount=1451)
Narren Vs ShellNewbie HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190601&postcount=1349)
Expitarius => FASTPATH
Mad-Ice => FASTPATH
DJTechno => FASTPATH
@ merlin
Woopzilla Vs MrPhlanJ HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189147&postcount=1111) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189150&postcount=1113)
Kittun Vs Brainbeat HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189410&postcount=1150)
Mikrucio Vs Stin_wz HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189481&postcount=1170)
Golgofier Vs Maryconcy HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189831&postcount=1210) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189834&postcount=1211)
Temet79 Vs Dasio_Pl HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189872&postcount=1218)
Javariko Vs Phaeton_pl HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189896&postcount=1224)
TheBulletDodger7 Vs SilverSword95 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190004&postcount=1248)
Bart_Mdma Vs Slimjim2097 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190112&postcount=1268)
Peh-Hok Vs Anerare HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190430&postcount=1317) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190504&postcount=1329) + VIDZ (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190957&postcount=1407)
Wotan998 Vs Treatztma HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190428&postcount=1316) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190695&postcount=1361)
XBARNSTERX Vs Ferald69 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190421&postcount=1313)
Il_mago_di_doz Vs R3BU5ER HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190558&postcount=1340) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193078&postcount=1697)
DeathJester87 => FASTPATH
Dobyblue Vs Hycran HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190919&postcount=1403)
Pirhapac Vs Gordo31874 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191007&postcount=1415) + VIDZ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX3BmEP-8UI) + VIDZ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQmKr4uKI7g) + VIDZ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb14uFdZJY4)
Nutcase259 Vs Kihkoo HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191055&postcount=1425)
@ Kestrel
AiiRW0LF Vs Miss-78 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189194&postcount=1116) + VIDS (http://www.youtube.com/user/AiiRW0LF?feature=mhum#p/u/6/G8xypTQ4PD8)
CHRIS-_REDFIELD Vs SILICONE_BLONDE HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189350&postcount=1134)
Adolfl7 Vs LinearNotion HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189401&postcount=1145)
Constrictor4U Vs Tragedia3 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189497&postcount=1175) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189493&postcount=1174)
Ichigo17 Vs Jeegee HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189877&postcount=1221)
Dark_Phantom_89 Vs Onbac HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189876&postcount=1220) + VIDZ (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189989&postcount=1242)
Andybob35 Vs Bjoern92 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190045&postcount=1257)
Jan709 Vs Kodeks HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190181&postcount=1280)
Zabijaka Vs Dieeeeee HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190255&postcount=1290)
Ace3cube Vs TwitchySpitfire HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190543&postcount=1332) + VIDZ (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190687&postcount=1359)
Mr_L07h4R Vs Nerejeh HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190734&postcount=1372)
Jodiroga Vs TorquedSoul HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190668&postcount=1357)
Tug_14 Vs Sick_Martin HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191018&postcount=1418)
Luna_Bgd => FASTPATH
UB3R-BR3NDAGE => FASTPATH
SonicChaosX => FASTPATH

SECOND ROUND

@ owl
Danterich Vs Skynet_t_x HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189793&postcount=1208)
Tiduch Vs Shapealot HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191451&postcount=1502)
Ericd7m Vs DreamyElf HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191871&postcount=1541) + VIDZ (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191918&postcount=1551)
Kaori714 Vs Lord_Rushton HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192271&postcount=1618)
TarquinFarqhuar Vs Freeman1021 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192536&postcount=1639)
Fyue3 Vs Grzespl HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192813&postcount=1673)
DrMannevond => FASTPATH (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193612&postcount=1763)
Triboy => FASTPATH
@ falcon
Yeldar2097 Vs Frailavi HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190547&postcount=1335)
IDReaper => FASTPATH
Flaflasat Vs Albez93 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191705&postcount=1534)
Mad-Ice Vs Amorbis HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192161&postcount=1597) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192180&postcount=1606)
Chesterknight Vs Lizzy-13 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192719&postcount=1662)
KGB1971 Vs Narren HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192784&postcount=1667)
DJTechno => HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192851&postcount=1677) (Fastpass)
JFthebestJan Vs Expitarius HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194063&postcount=1856) + HERE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPbF9GZ7ENs&feature=feedu)
@ Hawk
Klocki_Lego Vs Reezellthia HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191003&postcount=1413)
billychanxtr33m Vs Challenger001 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191350&postcount=1474) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191349&postcount=1473)
JJPAP Vs Feisar31 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192187&postcount=1609) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192191&postcount=1610) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192318&postcount=1625)
Anderkovver Vs Kyonshi HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192606&postcount=1643) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192607&postcount=1644)
OBH Vs Annoying_Git HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192896&postcount=1686)
Speedkang96 => FASTPATH
SpinningGenius => FASTPATH
Kingheim Vs Greif HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193996&postcount=1842)
@ Eagle
Ace-Flo Vs Unctuous HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190920&postcount=1404)
Jasmin_Jade Vs Leungbok HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191884&postcount=1544) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191906&postcount=1547) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192005&postcount=1576)
QjonPL Vs Hellfire_wz HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191936&postcount=1561) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191982&postcount=1569)
G-Superpilot Vs Dariusz1230 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191962&postcount=1564)
SaturnReturn Vs Halecon HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192553&postcount=1640) + WOOOW (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192685&postcount=1653)
Shawnfrecle => FASTPATH
bazzman32 Vs CHEE5E2EE HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192827&postcount=1676)
Skylar-69 Vs Stinkleroy HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193017&postcount=1694)
@ Kestrel
Dark_Phantom_89 Vs UB3R-BR3NDAGE HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191239&postcount=1457) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191241&postcount=1458) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200900&postcount=2213)
Aiirw0lf Vs Adolfl7 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191442&postcount=1498)
Constrictor4U Vs Ichigo17 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192060&postcount=1589)
Luna_bgd Vs Jan709 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192162&postcount=1598) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192170&postcount=1601)
Ace3cube Vs SonicChaosX HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192273&postcount=1619)
Andybob35 Vs Jodiroga HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192287&postcount=1620) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192291&postcount=1622)
Chris-_redfield Vs Mr_L07H4R HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192810&postcount=1671)
Tug_14 => FASTPATH
@ Merlin
Bart_Mdma Vs TheBulletDodger7 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191345&postcount=1472) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191342&postcount=1470)
Woopzilla Vs Temet79 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191410&postcount=1486) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191473&postcount=1504)
Javariko Vs Kittun HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191441&postcount=1497) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191443&postcount=1499) + VIDZ (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191497&postcount=1509) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191617&postcount=1521)
XBARNSTERX Vs mikrucio HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191681&postcount=1532)
Nutcase259 Vs Wotan998 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192435&postcount=1628) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192460&postcount=1632)
Peh-hok Vs Golgofier HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192817&postcount=1674) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192853&postcount=1678)
Pirhapac => FASTPATH
Il_mago_di_doz => FASTPATH
@ Vulture
Drr1984 Vs Deepmix HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191631&postcount=1523)
Aka-sho Vs Wreckedge HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191923&postcount=1553)
Tar-Elendil Vs ERZed HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192084&postcount=1593)
Skrotos32 Vs Jpa2097 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192290&postcount=1621)
Vartazian Vs IndoorSnowStorm HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192560&postcount=1641)
Rezatron => FASTPATH
Amplificated Vs Kigo1987 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192870&postcount=1680) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192885&postcount=1684)
Erich123 Vs Zoth-Ommog HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193481&postcount=1741)
@ Buzzard
Morfeo378 Vs P_denton HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191964&postcount=1565)
Zero3growlithe Vs Wellington86 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191999&postcount=1573)
ONlocke Vs Blackwiggle HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192705&postcount=1660) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192798&postcount=1669)
Texasalex Vs Greenix HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192809&postcount=1670) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193114&postcount=1700)
Bombel2000 Vs Imre92 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193566&postcount=1749)
Lolode1978 Vs Cyberio HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193571&postcount=1751)
Luxoflux Vs Krzysztof1999 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193713&postcount=1789)
Elois-13 => FASTPATH
ROUND 3

@ Falcon
Yeldar2097 Vs Mad-Ice HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192686&postcount=1654) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192785&postcount=1668)
Chesterknight Vs KGB1971 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193460&postcount=1734)
JFthebestJan Vs Flaflasat HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194433&postcount=1908) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194439&postcount=1910)
IDReaper Vs DJTechno HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=195210&postcount=1995)
@ Kestrel
Aiirw0lf Vs Constrictor4u HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193004&postcount=1693) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193051&postcount=1696)
Dark_Phantom_89 Vs Andybob35 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193079&postcount=1698) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193170&postcount=1703) + VIDZ (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193358&postcount=1723)
Luna_bgd Vs Ace3cube HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193939&postcount=1831) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194153&postcount=1872)
Chris-_Redfield Vs Tug_14 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194664&postcount=1939)
@ Hawk
Speedkang96 Vs Anderkovver HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193175&postcount=1704) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193237&postcount=1708)
Billychanxtr33m Vs JJPAP HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193666&postcount=1776) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193665&postcount=1775) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193963&postcount=1833)
Klocki_Lego Vs SpinningGenius HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194368&postcount=1898)
OBH => FASTPATH
@ owl
Kaori714 => FASTPATH
Tiduch Vs DrMannevond HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193936&postcount=1830) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193960&postcount=1832)
Ericd7m Vs TarquinFarqhuar HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193983&postcount=1835) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194066&postcount=1857)
Fyue3 Vs Triboy HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194423&postcount=1904)
@ Merlin
Woopzilla Vs Nutcase:259 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193478&postcount=1740)
XBARNSTERX Vs Peh-Hok HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194187&postcount=1883) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194195&postcount=1886) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194222&postcount=1889)
Bart_Mdma Vs Pirhapac
Il_mago_di_doz Vs Javariko HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194890&postcount=1963) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194886&postcount=1962)
@ Vulture
Amplificated Vs Aka-sho HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193581&postcount=1755) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193579&postcount=1754)
Skrotos32 Vs Tar-Elendil HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193966&postcount=1834)
drr1984 Vs erich123 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194883&postcount=1961) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194916&postcount=1970)
Rezatron => FASTPATH
@ Eagle
Jasmin_Jade Vs Skylar69 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193815&postcount=1811)
G-Superpilot Vs QJonPL HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193987&postcount=1837) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194054&postcount=1854) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194121&postcount=1868)
Bazzman32 Vs Ace-Flo HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194339&postcount=1895)
ShawnFrecle Vs SaturnReturn HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194666&postcount=1940) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194758&postcount=1949)
@ Buzzard
Zero3growlithe Vs Bombel2000 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194617&postcount=1929)
Texasalex Vs Onlocke HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=195213&postcount=1997)
Morfeo378 Vs Luxoflux HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=196070&postcount=2051)
Elois-13 & lolode were both MIA.


ROUND 4

@ Owl
Tiduch Vs Ericd7m HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194489&postcount=1911) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194509&postcount=1919)
Fyue3 Vs Kaori714 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=195202&postcount=1994)
@ Kestrel
Dark_Phantom_89 Vs Chris-_Redfield HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194970&postcount=1976) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194971&postcount=1977) + VIDZ (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194984&postcount=1981)
Luna_Bgd Vs Aiirw0lf HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=195147&postcount=1984) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=195163&postcount=1986)
@ Merlin
Bart_mdma Vs Il_mago_di_doz HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=195229&postcount=2000) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=195230&postcount=2001)
Woopzilla => FASTPATH
@ Hawk
Speedkang96 Vs Klocki_lego HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=195227&postcount=1999) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=195268&postcount=2003)
Billychanxtr33m => FASTPATH
@ Falcon
Yeldar2097 Vs Chesterknight HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=196396&postcount=2068)
JFTheBestJan Vs IDReaper HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=199001&postcount=2155)
@ Vulture
Skrotos32 => FASTPATH
Rezatron Vs Drr1984 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=199407&postcount=2172) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=199436&postcount=2174)
@ Eagle
Bazzman32 Vs G-Superpilot HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=196883&postcount=2107)
Jasmin_Jade => FASTPATH
@ Buzzard
Zero3growlithe => FASTPATH
Texasalex Vs Morfeo378 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=199754&postcount=2177)

OWL FINALS : Tiduch Vs Fyue3 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=196633&postcount=2090)
KESTREL FINALS : Dark_Phantom_89 Vs Luna_Bgd HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=201163&postcount=2234) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=201272&postcount=2239)
EAGLE FINALS : Bazzman32 Vs Jasmin_Jade HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202208&postcount=2298)
FALCON FINALS : Yeldar2097 Vs JFThebestJan HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200931&postcount=2220) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200904&postcount=2214) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200983&postcount=2225)
VULTURE FINALS : Skrotos32 Vs Rezatron HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202203&postcount=2297)
MERLIN FINALS : Woopzilla Vs Bart_Mdma HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=199350&postcount=2168) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=199360&postcount=2169)
BUZZARD FINALS : Texasalex Vs Zero3growlithe HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=201709&postcount=2252)
HAWK FINALS : Speedkang96 Vs Billychanxtr33m HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200802&postcount=2200) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200820&postcount=2206) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200830&postcount=2208HERE)

QUARTER FINALS

Skrotos32 (ITA) Vs Yeldar2097 (HOL) HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202212&postcount=2301) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202252&postcount=2315)
Texasalex (GER) Vs Woopzilla (UK) HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202431&postcount=2319)
Tiduch (POL) Vs Speedkang96 (SWE) HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202569&postcount=2327) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202642&postcount=2341) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202648&postcount=2345)
Bazzman32 (UK) Vs Dark_Phantom_89 (UK) HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=203104&postcount=2396) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=203033&postcount=2358) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=203321&postcount=2412)

SEMI-FINALS
Skrotos32 (ITA) Vs Bazzman32 (UK) HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=203668&postcount=2435) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=203679&postcount=2440)
Texasalex Vs Tiduch HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=203789&postcount=2456) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=203787&postcount=2455) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=203800&postcount=2464)

FINALS
Skrotos32 Vs Texasalex HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=205579&postcount=2513) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=205592&postcount=2523) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=205624&postcount=2537)


Runner Up : Tiduch Vs Bazzman32 HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=205207&postcount=2496) + HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=205193&postcount=2495)

ONlock
20th September 2010, 01:43 PM
With best of three, I mean, you pick one map, and your opponent picks one map, and the third and last is the decider map, which may or may not be fixed.

Same rules, just simplified.

Aeroracer
20th September 2010, 02:13 PM
sounds good..being a greedy so and so what about a world cup like last year with team vs team..that was fun..would it be possible to get soe teams together..

novide
20th September 2010, 02:17 PM
i'm in :D

Nutcase:259
20th September 2010, 02:22 PM
id be proud to say i went out in round 1 of the wipeout cup to end all wipeout cups :lol

count me in :+

kanar
20th September 2010, 02:30 PM
mmm I'm ok for a same, fixed decider map for all rounds yes. But best of 3 is really short I mean, best of 5 should let you more possibilities to make a come back if you fkd up the first races. Jasmin, I think organising a national teams world cup is even more unrealistic than what I'm trying to organise. I mean it's already mayhem to organise something at an individual level, so mobilize group of people under the national flag, now, after 2 years of HD, seems impossible... Friendly meetings are still occuring, like France-Japan a few days ago, but jeez organising a world cup now :blarg...

ONlock
20th September 2010, 03:17 PM
best of 3 is really short I mean, best of 5 should let you more possibilities to make a come back if you fkd up the first races. :blarg...

Yes, I know. That was really the only agrument I could come up with myself for not doing it. I just thought that the simplicity of it would make it more acessible to more players. Maybe we would get fuller and better match reports. And getting the mathces played would be easier, as it doesn't take much time at all, and is easy to squeese in between lunch and teabreak. You get the point.

Although, 5 maps is probably just as good. I'm for it.

I think the winner of the "WipEout HD Photo competition" should have his picture as the background of the cup table. Or even as the main picture for the event. :D

kanar
20th September 2010, 04:45 PM
eh eh yes, nice idea regarding the pic! So we're staying with a best of 5 then, as it's already a quickly played & fair format.

To be honest guys, I really hope all the old WZ guard will stand up for this one. The format is, like we said, particularly flexible, so except timezone differences, there's not so much obstacles, if you're a wipeout fan, to play a bunch of races online with someone at a particular moment of your life.

Wotan
20th September 2010, 04:58 PM
I'm quite rusty now but why not ?! :D

xtriko
20th September 2010, 04:59 PM
why isn't my name there yet?

Challenger #001
20th September 2010, 05:00 PM
Well, I'm in. Hope the old guard do show up - it would be nice to send WO off with a nice final event at least. ^^ I may end up seeing all you guys playing GT5 later around Christmas before I run whooping off in February in the general direction of Aperture Science. :3

KGB
20th September 2010, 05:01 PM
Yeah, it goes without saying Kanar, I'm in 8). Wipeout seems to of bit you hard again :g.

DrMannevond
20th September 2010, 06:02 PM
I'm in!

Kurlija
20th September 2010, 06:20 PM
Ah, why not :g

Still a rookie compared to most of you guys, but it'll be fun :P

triboy
20th September 2010, 06:28 PM
Be sure kanar, that I will join, no matter what ;) SIGN ME IN ;) And when we will know something more, some details, I will spread info about that Cup on polish forums ;)

concrete_d
20th September 2010, 06:47 PM
I'm in of course, this sounds epic :D

kanar
20th September 2010, 07:46 PM
:eek well thank you guys for answering to my call so quickly! Triboy that's exactly what I'm talking about, I mean slowly but surely spread the info through the internet, and local communities. I'm French and I know how much it can be difficult to understand something here, but hey, why not moving some mountains in the next few months uh?8)

First basic step is to gather the maximum of people here, old guard, new aces, and most important the people who are just playing wipeout HD casually but frequenting these boards; guys our motto will always be the same, right from the start; "The most important thing is not to win but to take part!"
Would be more than awesome to motivate some wipeout ghosts too, like Wellington, Pirah, Kingheim, evolite, well you see the missing pilot thread lol.
In the meantime, I'm trying to set up a group of "community managers", simply based on the organisation at the avalon cup; I mean Darkdrium777 helping me with his nice board, and lots of people like Saturn or others giving a hand from time to time, answering in the thread instead of me or dealing wth a few issues and so on, you get the picture I think.

Oh for sure, I have an idea of what could be needed for this project :
-pictures, like ONlock said (ONlock will try to help me during his spare time), boards...
-teasers about the wipeoutZone cup
-Communications through the internet gaming boards (even officials sony boards) all over the world

Arh enough with this crazy **** for now. Oh just wanted to finish quoting Rob :D...

"We are fast. We are unique. We are nine." (this for the old legendary guard ;))

The WipeoutZone cup Project
ALL INFOS HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181778&postcount=1)

erich123
20th September 2010, 08:44 PM
Me is in:twisted

IndoorSnowStorm
20th September 2010, 08:52 PM
I'll be glad to take part! :hyper

Challenger #001
20th September 2010, 09:20 PM
We could try the Escapist, though I have an uncomfortable feeling it might result in a Zero Punctuation on HD/Fury. XD

Kyonshi
20th September 2010, 09:39 PM
I'm in! :D

I also have a suggestion, Kanar. I dunno how long it would take for everyone, it may not be unanimous, but i'll share my idea anyway.

To prevent the "death sentence" situation lots of us faced during the Avalon Cup (me included xD), why not do a 2 out 3 for every 1 on 1 showdown? A single Avalon Cup showdown was kinda quick anyway, so 3 of them shouldn't take much more than 1 hour. If we base ourselves on the average time a Single Race takes - 2 minutes x 6 races (3 for each pilots), we have 12 minutes total. Add the 2 extra minutes for the final race, we get 14, rounded up to 15 minutes. So within 45 minutes approx., we're done. How about that?

Now i know the a WipEoutZone Cup may be much bigger than the Avalon Cup (even more with WipEoutArena people). I know it will take much more time than doing a single round and that most probably some people won't be playing Single Race Mode only. But at least it would give much more chances to make our mark, even more if unfair lag is involved. Think about it and let me know! :)

kanar
20th September 2010, 10:28 PM
mmm. That needs reflexion here Kyonshi for sure, as we're already on our way to reduce the round duration to a best of 5 instead of the previous best of 7, for even more efficiency.

2 out 3 mm. Yeah we could imagine a first best of 5, hosted by opponent 1. (away), then best of 5, same tracks, hosted by opponent 2 (Home). But in case of draw, I think we could just replay the same consolidation track previously played (during round 5).

About the consolidation track, I think a good choice could be anulpha pass rapier weapons on, for the entire duration of the cup, as it's the most played track as far as I know. The major issue regarding this format could be, to my opinion;
-zone battle : these rounds are longer than single races.
-rules are becoming a bit more harder to understand, although we should be able to sort this out with basics explanations lol.

The WipeoutZone cup Project
"For the record"
ALL INFOS HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181778&postcount=1)

SaturnReturn
20th September 2010, 10:52 PM
I'm not sure there's any way that we can really account for lag. It could be the closest match ever, but the losing player would always be able to point out at least one point where they were affected by lag and therefore could feel hard done by. I think that's human nature really, and don't see a way around it unless we play in the same room as each other.

I can appreciate the point about it being a very short competition for anyone with a tough draw and an early exit. I feel that's the nature of a straight knockout though. Maybe qualifying group phases are worth considering. Or maybe there is some original way in which the first round can be extended, e.g. do a best of 3 or best of 5 but do it against 2 or 3 other players. But the longer and more complex it becomes, the harder it will be to organise, especially if non-regulars are to be getting involved.

Whatever happens, just make sure the Japanese get involved this time.:nod

Kyonshi
21st September 2010, 12:07 AM
@Saturn

I was really talking about an ultra-tight photo finish, but more specifically about the random collisions with a solid ghost, which can cost the race in most occasions. I should have made this clearer.

I'm aware we can't do nothing about these issues. But having more race opportunities with a 2 best of 3 would give a chance to get back in the competition somehow.:)

chesterknight
21st September 2010, 02:14 AM
i'm in to kanar.

kanar
21st September 2010, 09:43 AM
Thanks for joining Chesterknight :P!

Sat I'm really fond of this round robin idea, but I'm finding it impossible to set up if we have lot of non WZ pilots. Communication will be the sinews of war for sure, so we'll have to stay on strict and uber simple rules. So I'm thinking about 2 choices regarding the rules.

First pick : strict best of 7, exactly like the avalon cup, with anulpha pass default rapier race as Round 7. 3 tracks Home hosting, then 3 tracks away hosting, round 7 hosted by away if necessary.

Second pick :
Best of 5, home & away tourneys :
5 tracks home hosting (opponent 1 (home) hosting his 3 choices + 2 choices of opponent 2) THEN
5 tracks away hosting (opponent 2 (away) hosting his 3 choices + 2 choices of opponent 1)
FINAL ROUND OF DEATH in case of draw : default anulpha pass rapier hosted by away opponent.


The WipeoutZone cup Project
"For the record"
ALL INFOS/RESERVATIONS HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181778&postcount=1)

mic-dk
21st September 2010, 11:49 AM
I am of course in too, but 128 players? Ambitious! If you manage to pull this off, you really should get a race-mode named after you ;)

I would be all for keeping the 7 races from the Avalon Cup. IMO it's enough races to rule out any accidents/coincidences/luck etc. 7 races is also relatively fast to get done, the ~20 minutes it takes is a lot easier to arrange than having to invest 1-2 hours into each meeting (disregarding the triboy/DJT marathon :p ). With 64 matches in the first round, you'll want something that's super easy to set up. As the tournament progresses, then maybe increase the number of races?

Edit: Oh... Saturn wrote pretty much the same, just much better. I'm with Sat :D

kanar
21st September 2010, 12:11 PM
lol mic, I just want to see wipeout HD in the spotlights, no more :D
Yeah I'm finding the best of 7 pretty cool regarding the chosen cup format. Motto is really to keep it fast, fair & simple, because this time we should do our best to involve everyone on earth with an AG ship sleeping in his garage. 128 pilots is our goal, because this is for the record.

Wipeout HD deserves a nice blaze of glory.

(I'm actually extracting psn IDs datas from my previous avalon threads, ONlock I'll contact you in a few days on that matter, planning a massive psn cup advertising campaign. (Guys feel free to contact me if you wanna help me to spam XXX psn inboxes lol)

Oh a basic translation of the cup infos in Italian, Spanish, German & Japanese would be awesome too. Tri you said you'll spread the infos through Polish forums, that's already a good point.

Nutcase:259
21st September 2010, 01:06 PM
Email Zico & get him involved :P

although seriously you (or peeps in the know ) could ask some development staff? if you asked nicely :lol

reminds me off the a team intro.
"i... and if you can find them maybe you can hire..."

:mr-t

Colonel
21st September 2010, 01:47 PM
For what it's worth I think the settings should remain the same as the current Avalon Cup (7 races / zone battles). It seems to have worked well and "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

I assume I'm wasting my time asking for an Eliminator option? ;-)

kanar
21st September 2010, 02:20 PM
you're right Nutcase, I'm working on a psn ids listing to spam first atm, but I'll send some pms to the wo devs registered here, finger crossed they'll check their inboxes. I'm thinking aboout a first wave of psn pms, then pms here, then posts on other websites, official sony's boards included. A pic & shooting teaser wave would be awesome, as we already have lots of thematics like "for the record", "the wipeout cup" "project overlord" :D

Oh, about eliminator:D. Well, maybe we could allow one "eliminator card" for each opponent? We can talk about that too for sure, if people are interested.

JJPAP
21st September 2010, 03:33 PM
Haven´t read all the posts ´bout the rules, but I´m - of course! - definately in! :D

R3BU5ER
21st September 2010, 05:48 PM
Hey this time I'm in! Probably gonna get my Ass kicked, bit I'm masochistic in Ã* way ;) offtop: since the psn update this afternoon, i can't het online :s says my password is wrong, but it's defenitly not. What's up with That??

kanar
21st September 2010, 06:15 PM
general psn maintenance for the 3d update stuff mate, until tomorrow I think. Thanks a lot for joining, and for your pm!

Dark_Phantom_89
21st September 2010, 06:15 PM
Ahh, how can I say no to this? Count me in Kanar :D

triboy
21st September 2010, 06:18 PM
Its about maintenance maybe: http://www.community.eu.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-Network/PSN-Maintenance-Tuesday-21-9/td-p/11525112
Kanar, the info is already spread ;)

amplificated
21st September 2010, 07:28 PM
How can I say no to this, I've missed every single other WO event entirely - it's about time I jumped in! I definitely want to be a part of a good WO competition, so I can't imagine being left out of this should it go ahead - count me in :)

I guess I'll have to find time to dust off my wipeout skills :P

ONlock
21st September 2010, 07:58 PM
Sure kanar.. I'm ready for a real spamfest.

Just say who and when. 8)

Doesn't anyone here have some experience with setting up a webpage for this kind of thing. And make it real professional and good lookin'? There you could get direct access to match reports, pictures and videos from the different rounds, for the people that care to film the races, etc.

I would do it! But, I don't really have what it takes.

gordo1974
21st September 2010, 09:14 PM
Kanar,
I'm in. Defo. Really enjoyed the build up to the Avalon cup, and looking to get further than my mighty 1rnd exit!

See you out there:mr-t

Oh, and can we do the draw in the wipEout museum again? LMAO with loads of dudes standing around in panda heads!

silverfoxy
21st September 2010, 09:27 PM
Hi Kanar

I'd love to take part in this. Feel bad for missing out on the Avalon Cup but would love to be in this one.

Cheers

kanar
22nd September 2010, 06:17 AM
Superb, thanks a lot for signing guys!!! subscription rate is already nice, and we don't even started the spamfest yet eh eh.

ONlock I totally agree, a professional look like dedicated website, hd teasers and so on would be something awesome... But sadly I don't have what it takes too. But, a wipeout HD cup organised by WipeoutZone still makes sense 8), so I'm sure we can coordinate everything well here, giving a maximum of infos and useful links. We have already two motherbases, here & wipeoutarena.net; we still have lots of time to develop everything the best way anyway.

The psn Ids database should be ready by the end of the week, so the spamfest should begin shortly :twisted. We'll try to write a simple, global psn message advertising the cup & redirecting here or at WA. In english though, that's why I mentioned before it would be awesome to have a short resume of the cup stuffs in different languages (most wanted translations would be japanese, Italian, Spanish and German). After this global psn advertising, I'll do my best to shoot crappy teasers soon. THAT WOULD BE AWESOME if some of you guys could shoot some wipeout hd teasers advertising this wipeout HD cup/wipeoutZone cup. Youtube is a fantastic way to spread the info too. Arhhh. I should go to work now gah. :blarg . Oh one last thing, R3BU5ER joined us at the "community manager" thing. Thanks a lot mate, and don't worry, I'm not going to break your ***** guys all days long ah ah

Oh, and can we do the draw in the wipEout museum again? LMAO with loads of dudes standing around in panda heads!
LOL yes, that was so funny. For sure we'll do that again eh eh
ACTUAL SITUATION :
-Gathering pilots here & at WipeoutArena
-PSN IDs data processing, before a major psn spamming (1st wave of advertisement, in the core of the system)
-Reflexion on a short, simple & attractive psn text message in english to advertise the cup (we should work on those themes like "for the record", "major wipeout event", "wipeoutZone official cup", "Who can compete with WZ?:mr-tlol" and so on...)

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The Wipeout HD cup Project
"For the record"
ALL INFOS/RESERVATIONS HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181778&postcount=1)

R3BU5ER
22nd September 2010, 10:48 AM
Ah that's cool Kanar, really handling this very proffessionally :) I'll be glad to help out. Just Give me the orders sir! :d

kanar
22nd September 2010, 04:22 PM
aaaargh just signed Leungbok:hyper. Did all my best to convince Pirahpac too lol, but that was a lil bit harder... I'm putting him in the pending list :D. I've opened the wipeout cup command center btw, it's a moderated social group, that could permit us to coordinate our promo campaigns. So if you want to help us guys (pics, vids, webmasters, cheerleaders...), this is the place to go : CommandCenter (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/group.php?groupid=58)

Nutcase & novide already did some awesome job, thanks a lot guys, really good to have you in the team.

The Wipeout HD cup Project
"For the record"
ALL INFOS/RESERVATIONS HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181778&postcount=1)

ONlock
22nd September 2010, 06:26 PM
Why do they find it so hard? It's not like it's a big obligation.

Play WipEout HD for 30 minutes every other week. :P

DreamyElf
22nd September 2010, 06:28 PM
hey kanar :)
you just found an easy opponent for anyone to pass to the next round!
you know that i'm not a fan of 1vs1 races but i'll sign to this even if i'll be rusty thx to GT5... ;)

btw, the logo is amazing, well done novide! :+

kanar
22nd September 2010, 06:55 PM
oh no no no, you're certainly not an easy target Dream! Welcome here my friend. Just got a text message, and...

A-SAY-YEAH :g:g:g. Living legend signing in. You're supporting me once again on this one Arnaud, I've no words for that. Oh btw, the command center is now full of wipeout ninjas, we're preparing all together a nice strategy to make that cup the biggest wipeout online event ever 8).

stin
22nd September 2010, 06:57 PM
KANAR!!!!, I will kick your effing arse!!!!

I`m in, if you know what I`m mean?!!! ;)

stevie:)

Asayyeah
22nd September 2010, 07:21 PM
Costed me a trip to Scotland to convince this old fart Stevie is :g
Actually it's a great deal :D

This weekend i will speak with my hands and body to convince Italian strong team to be in ( reading their mind by distance they will be in for sure)

Taking part with Al's negcon maybe a challenge ( for those who laid their hands on it during last weekend) but count me in with it !

icarasDragon
23rd September 2010, 06:01 AM
Warm up My Goteki45 Fury and my Assegai Fury, i'm getting into this cup!

kanar
23rd September 2010, 08:10 AM
Yay DialgiX! thanks for joining mate!:rockEverything's running smoothly so far, the command center is working hard on lots of stuffs. Promo pics, psn spamfest common message, multi translations, teasers, tune selections:rock:rock
We're also working hard to get all the legends involved into this story. Still a long way to the first round eh eh, but I'm feeling real good vibes these past few days... Yes we can organize & handle that :hyper. Stay tuned for more infos soon!

And keep subscribing; " Unus pro omnibus, omnes pro uno"

ACTUAL SITUATION :

STEP 1
-Working on the pic promo campaigns
-Working on the teaser promo campaigns
-Working on the rules translations
-Working on the PSN ID database to spam
-Working on the short PSN text message to send
-Lobbying efforts to sign the legendary pilots and casual HD players around WZ


The Wipeout HD cup Project
"For the record"
ALL INFOS/RESERVATIONS HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181778&postcount=1)

OBH
23rd September 2010, 07:00 PM
ambitious....

... i like it!! :D:+:beer

kanar
23rd September 2010, 09:05 PM
ambitious, yes, and crazy too. We're growing up days after days, and that's sooo awesome. Would like to thank all the good will who joined the command center already; you guys are doing such a great job!

ACTUAL STATUS :
-lots of new reservations, and the pending members are almost convinced to join in the end :P
-Rules translation work has begun (German)
-Teasers are on their way
-promo pics are already freakin awesome
-We're thinking about a website dedicated to this cup, for quick links to reports/vids and so on
-we're thinking about a twitter account & a facebook group
-we're about to launch our first massive psn advertisement (psn database fixed)
Lots of stuffs in our minds eh eh. All for the zone!

oh, we DEFINITELY needs someone who's speaking Japanese.

The Wipeout HD cup
"For the record"
ALL INFOS/RESERVATIONS HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181778&postcount=1)

kanar
25th September 2010, 07:23 AM
ok just a quick update on the "road to the hd cup";

-I've fixed the name of the cup, for a much larger audience. Our forum names will appear in the teasers though 8).
-We're finally about to launch the psn advertisement, default pm is ready, ONlock, R3BU5ER & me are ready to spam the network.
-Rules translations are on their way (should be available shortly)
-Novide did an awesome job so far, providing awesome logos & animations.
-Nutcase provided us awesome pics so far, exacly what we needed for the spam message eh eh
-We're now 20(!!!) at the command center, all working together to make the best wipeout hd event ever. JJPAP even opened a café in the social group ah ah, awesome.

Last but not least, just have a look at the line up already :mr-t:mr-t:mr-t!!!
I really would like to thank all the pilots who reserved their slots for December already. This is for real guys, all thanks to you. Such a legendary line up, for the record.

We're waiting for you all now guys. (and I'll offer you a drink for the drawing lots ceremony at the wipeout museum - playstation home)
:D

The Wipeout HD cup
"For the record"
ALL INFOS/RESERVATIONS HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181778&postcount=1)

KGB
25th September 2010, 05:38 PM
I've just been looking/snooping in the Command center and the pictures look great, didn't read the much of the threads but are you planning on releasing some of these as wallpapers as they would look great and I want one now :P.

I would join but fear I would spend far too much time in JJ's cafe. Is it in Christiania? 8)

LurifaxFlux
25th September 2010, 07:59 PM
Sign me up :D

abukii
25th September 2010, 09:21 PM
According to ONlock, I am a potential competitor :)
Count me in!!

Aka-sho
26th September 2010, 02:03 AM
Thank you for inviting to "Wipeout HD cup".
I will join in this events, and translate to my japanese wipEout fansite/blog soon.

WipEout Japanese fansite - [WIPEOUT 推進委員会]
http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-SanJose/7230/wipeout/

We love wipEout all over the world. :)

Jodiroga
26th September 2010, 02:23 AM
I'm in!

R3BU5ER
26th September 2010, 08:02 AM
I've got a message from 'muldoon2k9' and 'imre92' that they are joining the party. :) Hopefully by Aka-sho we are going to get most of the Japanese wipers to get in it too :)

kanar
26th September 2010, 08:42 AM
oh - my - god. this stuff is looking so impressive already. Everyone at the command center made a fantastic job, giving to this cup a serious badass look! We're at the middle of the spamfest, ONlock & R3BU5ER are now spammer experts :P awesome job guys so far.
Aka-sho!!!! thanks a lot for your support, we really wanted to involve the fantastic Japanese wipeout family into this cup, and now you're here!:rock
abukii, jodiroga, Luri, thanks a lot for your posts & for joining!!! jeez this stuff is growing days after days, at an unexpected rate. So, what about targetting 256 pilots now :twisted:twisted

The Wipeout HD cup
"For the record"
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Jav
26th September 2010, 10:38 AM
I'm a bit confused with the rules. Can you actually choose to play Zone Battle 3 times if you wanted to?

kanar
26th September 2010, 10:57 AM
Yes Jav. I'm a speed lapper myself, and a single race lover most of the time. But, I'm respecting so much zone mode. I'm a complete noob at zone battle, but it's a fantastic one, ProblemSolver & lots of great pilots could testify about that. So that's why I decided to include zone battles (and so yes you can pick 3 ZB), this for rewarding the most complete/all around pilots. Jeez need to involve ProblemSolver on this one lol, by any means necessary :rock.

Even if you're not a zone battle fan, and on the most dramatic "case" lol (means 3 zone battle oppositions), single race will always prevail, as round 7 is default single race rapier.

Are you in Jav btw:P

Jav
26th September 2010, 11:06 AM
Ok then. Well I was just asking since I've whored out Zone as well, with the odd world record here and there. Not that it matters, I just think being able to do 3 Zone Battles is unfair. Why? Just because I play Zone the most (or used to) doesn't necessarily mean I'm bad at normal races. Like you, I really like speed laps too :)

Now, say my opponent has not played Zone Battle much at all. Let's agree with the fact I win all 3 Zone Battle races. In that case I have 4 races remaining and I only have to win 1. Don't you think that's a bit odd?

I suggest the following: if someone decides to play 3 Zone Battles, it's the opponent who gets to decide the tracks. That should at least balance it out a little.

I'm not the best pilot on here by any means, and it's not like the odds for me to go through would improve if this were to happen. I just think it would be better :) Please think about it, or if you don't like the suggestion I could come up with something else...

jan709
26th September 2010, 11:19 AM
Im in! Although i will need dates and times a few days in advance, school can sometimes mess up my WO schedule :)

I hope most people will choose phantom, the last time i raced anything else was in the campaign two years ago

ONlock
26th September 2010, 11:51 AM
Ok then. Well I was just asking since I've whored out Zone as well, with the odd world record here and there. Not that it matters, I just think being able to do 3 Zone Battles is unfair. Why? Just because I play Zone the most (or used to) doesn't necessarily mean I'm bad at normal races. Like you, I really like speed laps too :)

Now, say my opponent has not played Zone Battle much at all. Let's agree with the fact I win all 3 Zone Battle races. In that case I have 4 races remaining and I only have to win 1. Don't you think that's a bit odd?

I suggest the following: if someone decides to play 3 Zone Battles, it's the opponent who gets to decide the tracks. That should at least balance it out a little.

I'm not the best pilot on here by any means, and it's not like the odds for me to go through would improve if this were to happen. I just think it would be better :) Please think about it, or if you don't like the suggestion I could come up with something else...

That's right, first to 4 wins, goes to the next round. What's not fair about that?

If you don't want the match to end so quickly, you could mix it up, say, first one of your maps, then one of your opponents.

This is how most competitions are arranged, and if your opponent can't play zone battles very well, he/she will simply be left in the dust.

Personally I don't see the problem with one player being better than the other. :)

I for one, suck at zone battles! Err, maybe I shouldn't have said that. :P

kanar
26th September 2010, 12:00 PM
Thanks a lot for joining guys! Jan709, it's totally up to you for your 3 choices (speed class, br or no brs, single race or ZB, number of laps), and same for your opponent (3 choices too). Only round 7 is default single race, anulpha rapier.

Jav. I think you raised an important point there; thanks for that :P.

MMMm. I totally see your point. But then, I can't get out of my head the fact zone battle users are maybe more all around players than me, for example, as I only spent my life in speed lap mode. So yes, there's 2 solutions;

-keeping a 3 ZB possibility, and assuming the fact ZB users will have maybe a slight advantage (because they explored more the game and its possibilities)

-Restricting ZB to 2 rounds per opponent, and give to this cup a single race oriented aspect.

Fact is Fury extension isn't a requirement for the cup anyway, so I think the two choices are both interesting; waiting for your thoughts guys & gals :P

TBH I feel like ONlock on this one; there's a part of me saying "it's fair, ZB is awesome, even if I suck at it", and the other part saying "jeez I havn't spend all this time in speed lap to loose like that" :P. But hey, ProblemSolver told me that long time ago ah ah "you should play more Zone modes ;)

Jav
26th September 2010, 12:18 PM
I don't think we should allow 3 ZBs. The difference between Zone Battle and Single Races is that with Zone Battle, you can't really get lucky. The better player always comes out on top on Zone Battle because of how the mode works. If you're not good enough, hitting zone barriers is inevitable and you're not likely to have many perfect laps, etc. Especially when the target is zone 55, the better player has enough time to make the difference.

Now, single race. Even when you're structurally better than your opponent at this mode, you could still make a small mistake in just 1 race and you would be out (assuming the other player has won ZB 3 times). Luck (or bad luck) plays a much bigger role in single races. Mess up a boost, a sharp turn or even a barrel roll and you could be out. What if, on Ubermall, you fail the shortcut right after the start? You get respawned and you have lost the race. What if you take the sharp Chenghou turn just a little too early and end up hitting the side of the track? Lost the race. What if you fail the overpass BR on Anulpha and don't land on the overpass? Race over. The thing is, you are somewhat forced to take these risks as you HAVE to win all 4 remaining races.

I'm gonna think of the best solution and report back later. :D

Hironobu Sakaguchi
26th September 2010, 12:24 PM
im glad to join the race :)

kanar
26th September 2010, 12:44 PM
mmm right Jav; arh too bad I can't add a poll in the thread, would have been easier to know what the people think about this issue. So any thought is welcome guys.

Actual discussion :

Would you guys like to see zone battle restricted to a maximum of 2 per opponent?


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AspenExcel
26th September 2010, 02:38 PM
I really want to be a part of this! If it is sometime after the 20th of December I will be able to play. How long is this event expected to last?

Challenger #001
26th September 2010, 02:54 PM
Well, kanar and Assayeah are both fantastic pilots I've recently raced against, and couldn't touch them in race mode. But I play Zone a lot more and so when I asked for some Zone Battles against them, I beat them both. I knew both of them had a weakness for ZB but I chose it because - well - I enjoy it.

Somehow I think that though Race is an integral part of the WOHD community, if you get the fury expansion pack it doesn't just mean a few mods to the ships and the Piranha suddenly becoming even worse. Just as TT, SL and Zone were all parts of HD, if we're playing Fury we have to be able to play Eliminator, Detonator and Zone Battle.

If kanar wants to make a two-race ZB option, then he should make it for two races and one ZB from both people. Otherwise, the point of the cup is to have fun and if you find ZB fun, why should you be stopped from playing it? If you haven't bothered to play all the modes of Fury and can't do ZB, I think you've missed a big part of the game, Jav.

Reezy
26th September 2010, 03:21 PM
I'll take part. :)

kanar
26th September 2010, 03:24 PM
no no Challenger, Jav loves zone battle lol, he was just wondering if it's kinda fair at a global level playing field. But for the moment, I still believe a no zone battle restriction is the way to go. But please guys, keep giving your thoughts on that matter!!!

Unctuous, we should begin in the middle of december, I'm putting you in the pending list, as each meeting has a 3 weeks delay to be played, that should be good timing for you.

Kurlija
26th September 2010, 03:30 PM
Personally, I play HD online for the races. I absolutely suck at Zone Battle so I wouldn't mind seeing less of that :paperbag

leungbok
26th September 2010, 03:34 PM
IMO it must be possible for each participant to be able of choosing the mode he knows the most. Maybe with some limitations ! for example we can decide by voting that single race is the mandatory mode (with or without weapons, all classes) and that one single race must be part of the 3 event's choice.
And i could be a way to attract some members that don't play a lot classic online modes !
As an example if an adversary challenges you in an eliminator or detonator event, he'll have to manage a tt/sl challenge ;)

R3BU5ER
26th September 2010, 03:59 PM
Damn guys, if it Goes om like this, the tournament really is going to be epic!
Already so many slots filled, and so much time still untill the kickoff :)
About THE ZB discussion: my opinion is that it is a online battle option, so people are Free to choose it, but mainly the event is focussed on single race, so the suggestion of having at least one single race in your 3 course choise sounds pretty fair to me. i vote for that one. The option GREEN is more of Ã* concern for me. I think it has no added value at all, it's more like roulette to me. Of I pick up 3 boost and the other 1, Then it's Already done. I've got big problems with that. I would say Just choose between weps on or off. That's it. Anybody??

Jav
26th September 2010, 04:16 PM
Deleted :)

kanar
26th September 2010, 04:36 PM
Hey guys, no need to fire any weapons there, as challenger misunderstood your post Jav. You guys are both zone battles player, so everything’s good!
Reading your posts guys, maybe we could go on with the obligation to pick at least one race in your 3 choices (so a limitation of 2 zone battles). Let me know guys if you’re ok with that, or if we’re staying with 3 choices without any restrictions.

Ah R3BU5ER, green lol. Well, we had lots of heated discussions on that matter recently, and as far as I know, every pilot who tried this custom setting had lots of fun. As you’re constantly absorbing the weapons, you’re quickly ending with a turbo, so I believe it’s a fair setting. The difference during green races are made with the use of turbo at strategic points IMO. Anyway, feel free to share your thoughts about that too with us here.

akirapill
26th September 2010, 04:49 PM
I'll play, count me in.

ImperatorA3
26th September 2010, 04:52 PM
Received a PSN Message from R3BU5ER, you can count me in.

Challenger #001
26th September 2010, 05:26 PM
Apologies to Jav - I didn't understand you. I meant no offence. :paperbag

Jav
26th September 2010, 06:01 PM
And apologies to you, for overreacting. Looking back at it, a simple "I think you misunderstood me, check my other post" would've done the job.

:)

R3BU5ER
26th September 2010, 06:40 PM
Well Kanar, I understand what you are saying, but exactly the same can be said About Ã* normal single race. Only then, the competitors have the choise to shoot the boost-picker with Ã* missile, rockets, quake or whatever. I have nothing against the green league at all, I Just don't think it's suitable for Ã* important competition like this. On the second hand i bet there are competitors
That aren't even familiar with the green concept, I think the green league should stay on itself en shouldn't be integrated in Ã* tourey like this. No offence, Just my 2 cents.

jan709
26th September 2010, 06:53 PM
I guess ill be training anulpha rapier and some ZB then :)
Also i'd like to credit R3BU5ER for getting me into all this, i think ill forgive him :)

PLazarou
26th September 2010, 07:01 PM
Just got a PSN message from ONlocke. Count me in.:)

R3BU5ER
26th September 2010, 07:06 PM
Lol Jan, I'm glad I have Ã* Dutch homie to practice some online rampage with. I was getting Ã* little loneley between all the French, German and English ;) No...really glad you joined ouwe!

kanar
26th September 2010, 07:08 PM
R3BU5ER that's cool, and that's nice to share our thoughts on that matter Tbh, I'm pretty sure green races won't be the favourite choice during this cup. Most of the people are even not aware about this custom mode lol. So it's not a big deal IMO. Mate maybe we should play some green races together lol, so you could see by yourself it's a fair way to race too. Just imagine a set of rocket in your ass, or a respawn. So a single boost late in green race sounds pretty fair compared to that eh?

ACTUAL DISCUSSIONS :
-Total free choice or restriction to 2 ZB max for each opponent
-Green or not Green

these are the questions atm lol.


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SaturnReturn
26th September 2010, 09:09 PM
Green races - I'm not completely against or completely for it, as I don't have enough experience with it. Maybe some practice green races with two players could be done as an experiment. It might be quite different in only a two player race compared to a fuller room. I've only done them in half full rooms ages ago but if I didn't get a boost it did feel like a massive let down sometimes. I felt quite reliant on it as my one way to have a chance. I don't think it's a less fair way to do it, as both competitors are exposed to the same level of chance, but I think in general people would feel it was less fair.
You could take separate polls on these things. But really you'd want a poll of the participants and not just a normal open poll.

As for the zone battle thing - you could just say that both players have to pick at least two different modes. That way no-one could pick three normal weapons on single races either. It might feel a little less like it was against zone battle that way, and guarantees at least a little variation in every match, which is probably a good idea if it's aimed at the best all around player, because they could otherwise get a route through the tournament where they only ever played weps on races, just by chance.

kanar
26th September 2010, 09:32 PM
both players have to pick at least two different modes.

Mmm. I think we can definitely go with that. By modes, you mean single race weapons, single race no weapons, and zone battle, right? If you guys are ok, we'll validate this.

As for green races, let's say it's pending status for now, and still open for further discussions. As we're 2 on the track, IMO I believe turbo item won't be an issue. But as I said, I'm really open to any point of view. Try it & report any issue with it.

R3BU5ER
26th September 2010, 09:52 PM
Ey that's smart thinking there saturn, I think that solves everything.
Just at least 2 different races, for example 1: no wep 2: no wep 3:wep, ZB, or (green)....right.? I'm totally in :)

SaturnReturn
26th September 2010, 10:21 PM
Yes guys, that's exactly what I meant. I suppose the question is then only whether endurance is a mode and what it is defined as. At the moment I think number of laps is free choice, but if endurance were to be considered a separate mode then the minimum number of laps would have to be defined, or we would maybe have to say that number of laps doesn't make something a different mode.

EDIT: I suppose it's also worth considering whether a different speed class would count as a different 'mode'. I think maybe it should, because it's difficult to be a specialist of all speed classes and introduces variation as well. If so then perhaps a statement such as, "Each player has the choice of settings for three races. Of these three races, no more than two may have identical settings." Then you could define what the settings would be, e.g. single race, zone battle, weapons on/off, barrel rolls on/off, 5 laps (standard race), 15 - 20 laps (endurance race), speed class etc....Something like that.

R3BU5ER
26th September 2010, 10:30 PM
Oh yeah... Also that! I was assuming that would be 5 anyway...
I forgot Kanar, I suppose ur right About not many people choosing for green, got Ã* point there!
But I still think it's questionable :p
Not my choise though :) good night guys :)

blackwiggle
27th September 2010, 12:49 AM
I think if you have too many choices it's going to complicate things unnecessarily, especially with so many pilots racing.
The format really needs to be set in stone before any further promotion is begun, and only to use the options that are available when selecting tracks on the online board, so for me Green Races should be out only because it is not a standard type of race selection known by everybody.

My suggestion is each player has to pick and host a track for one weapon on [any speed], one weapon off [any speed] and one zone battle track [the organizing committee should decide a fair max number of zones, as this mode is rarely played by most]

Only if neither pilots want to play zone battle, then they each get to replace what would of been zone battle with a 3rd choice of track/class/weapon on or off.

This should give a fair representation of any particular pilots skills, as it gives them the best options to select what they feel comfortable with, as we all know some specialize at specific speed classes, and make themselves equally as worthy as elite phantom pilots, and just as hard to beat.

The 7th track remains the same Rapier/ Weapons on/ Anulpa Forward.

What you want to do if pilot assist is asked for, I say let them use it if they want to, as we old timers know it slows you down, so it's not really going to be an advantage to anybody that needs it.

dirtywaffle
27th September 2010, 12:54 AM
ohh yea you know im in

ill fly till they ship can fly any more or there isnt enough bood pulsing through me to hit the accelerator

Jav
27th September 2010, 02:17 AM
I think going from allowing 3 ZBs to allowing just 1 is a bit radical. If 2 of 3 races are going to have to be single races, 5 of 7 plays will be single races. The better single racer has a huge chance of winning that.

Here's what I suggest. You basically only have 2 options:

Racer set-up
Single Race - Weapons ON - Track A
Single Race - Weapons OFF - Track B
Zone Battle - Track C

or

Zoner set-up
Single Race - Weapons ON/OFF - Track A
Zone Battle - Track B
Zone Battle - Track C

Let's go through all 3 possible match-ups:

Racer vs. Racer
You will have 5 single races and 2 zone battles. That's fair, I think, since it's a racer vs. racer match-up. The mode they both like most is played 5 out of 7 times, but they do need to show a bit of their Zone skills in the remaining 2. Well balanced, no?

Racer vs. Zoner
In this one you get 3 zone battles and 3 races during regular play. Then if it is undecided, the game goes to a deciding race on Anulpha Pass. Still, Anulpha Pass isn't a particularly hard track (in fact, the easiest) and I'm sure every Zoner knows their way around Anulpha. ;) So if it should end 3-3 it will be a pretty fair deciding race.

Zoner vs. Zoner
Here we have 4 zone battles and 2 races during regular play. Meaning the zoners can play their beloved game mode but they do need to play at least 2, and if it is then still undecided, 3 single races.

Every 'set-up' needs to contain 3 different tracks [A, B, C]. Player 1's choice of tracks is irrelevant to player 2's choices. This means player 2 can also pick [A, B, C] if he wants to. But a combination [A, C, E] or 3 whole new tracks [D, E, F] is of course allowed. The ONLY condition is that every player picks 3 different tracks.

A player is not stuck to the 'pack' for the whole tournament. Rather, the player chooses the set-up he wants for that particular match. This means you can switch between Racer and Zoner during the tournament. Of course, you're not stuck to the tracks you choose either.

Finally, indeed, this means that players who do not have Fury cannot participate. But I think there's no other way. If the non-Fury players were to be allowed into the tourny, there would be match-ups in which solely single races are played, and no ZBs at all. Sorry, but I'm sure we all want a bit of diversity. 7 single races is simply too tedious.

In that case, because of the exclusion of the non-Fury pilots, I think we should aim for 128 players.

Feel free to comment on this proposal...

ONlock
27th September 2010, 03:29 AM
I understand what you are trying to say Jav, but truly, I do not see the point, so let me get this straight:

Old rules:

Racer Vs Racer: 7 single races <---------- (If they really want to)

Zoner Vs Zoner: 6 zone battles and 1 single race <---------- (Again, if they really want to)

Racer Vs Zoner: 4 single races and 3 zone battles

Your rules:

Racer Vs Racer: 5 single races and 2 zone battles <---------- (If these guys want to play 7 single races, why shouldn't they be able to?)

Zoner Vs Zoner: 3 single races and 4 zone battles <---------- (If these guys want to play 6 zone battles and 1 single race, why shouldn't they be able to?)

Racer Vs Zoner: 4 single races and 3 zone battles <---------- (See any similarity with the old rules?)

If I understood your rules correctly, this is what I get.

As I said, I understand what you are trying to do, but it just doesn't work for me. The result of doing it your way would simply be; to force diversity into other peoples games, when they can have more fun by deciding what to play themselves.

Only good thing I see from it, is that the racers would get some much needed zone battle practice. :P

Just my 5 cents.

blackwiggle
27th September 2010, 04:02 AM
I see your point about people who don't have the Fury DLC obviously not being able to play in ZB races, but I don't think they should be denied a chance to play in the WC based solely on that reason, mainly because ZB is played by so few who do have Fury anyway.

We could stipulate in the promotion that it is strongly recommended that anybody wishing to enter the WC have the Fury DLC, so that if the opponent they are drawn against requests ZB as their selection, then they are obliged to either get the Fury DLC and compete or forfeit those races.

There's two decisions we could make with this that would make matters clear cut.
1] At least one Zone Battle race is to be selected and raced by each player [no opting out of this] = Fury DLC required for entry.
Problem arises when neither player likes ZB, which I can see happening quite a bit, plus it would deter possible entry into the tournament from people who read that they have to race at least 2 ZB races when it this race mode holds no interest for them, or they don't have or want to get the Fury DLC.

So basically IMHO it's a bad call if you want to attract pilots into the WC by making ZB mandatory or Fury DLC ownership for that matter.

2]Then you have the more relaxed option, if you can race Zone Battle at the request of your drawn opponent then you are obliged to accept the challenge.
Same goes for Fury tracks generally, if you draw somebody who doesn't have the pack but your choice was from it, well tough luck, plenty of other HD tracks to choose from.

Most people will have Fury anyway, so I think it would be very rare for this problem to occur, plus we are not alienating potential contestants from the start by making the tournament more relaxed in structure.

mikrucio
27th September 2010, 05:13 AM
wooo count me in!

AiiRW0LF
27th September 2010, 06:34 AM
I missed the Avalon Cup but i would love to take part in this,so count me in!

Temet
27th September 2010, 06:46 AM
Already told you on WOArena, but count me in too Kanar please :rock

leungbok
27th September 2010, 07:29 AM
@blackwiggle :
lol i forgot that everybody didn't purchased the fury dlc !
But it gave me an idea :
when you meet an opponent with fury, you should be able to choose zb, eliminator or detonator mode, and if you (or your opponent) only own HD, you should be able to select zone, sl or tt mode (for the proof it's easy to send at your adversary through psn an ingame picture with hud activated for zone or sl mode, for tt or detonator i have no idea yet). about offline modes it can be possible for the opponents to start together and to decide of a time like 15 mn session or something. Well i don't know if it's possible to organize but it can add variety and attract people that like essentially offline modes (wowo's idea :P), and also make some to race some mode they never do and to give more chances at those who're better at some modes than in multiplayer races.
Of course half of the challenge will be classic online races (or tournament) but to make a grand final we must try to use the game at his full potential, no ? :)

kanar
27th September 2010, 07:33 AM
!!!!
Goooood morning guys. First and foremost, wanted to say :rock:rock:rock.

90 reservations in one week. That's just completely nut. Big thanks to all, I've no words for that... Just awesome!

Regarding the issues discussed above :P; TBH all your inputs guys are really great, there's tons of good ideas that we could try, but if you're checking the reservation list, you can easily imagine great but complicated rules couldn't be applied.
As Blackwiggle said, the format really needs to be set in stone quickly. Saaadly we don't have wipeout HD TV to relay our talks here, or detailed/elaborated/stratified rules. So I'm going to stay UBER simple and go with Saturn here :

-Both players have to pick at least two different modes (modes are single race weapons, single race no weapons, zone battle).

BUT

Here are the "hidden rules" :P
If the 2 opponents are reaching a common agreement : They can pick WHATEVER they want. Green races is going to hidden rules too.
Even wanted to add an easter egg to that like "In case of draw before round 7, and if the opponents are both owning the Blur game, they can play their last round on this game" :P... But I think it's too much ah ah.



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R3BU5ER
27th September 2010, 08:11 AM
Good morning there :)

I agree Kanar, I think the rules are properly settled now.
Gor a message from a new competitor: 'fabimus' is in! :)

R3BU5ER
27th September 2010, 08:56 AM
And 'valy91' also in, whoei! :)

kanar
27th September 2010, 10:07 AM
ok just wanted to tease you guys a little bit, but JJPAP's revelation teaser is OUTSTANDING. Stay tuned for the upcoming link :rock:rock:rock, should be available in a few hours!

ONlock
27th September 2010, 10:15 AM
kanar you tease!

Don't wait too long though! I'm off to work in a couple of hours.

Jav
27th September 2010, 10:30 AM
I understand what you are trying to say Jav, but truly, I do not see the point, so let me get this straight:

Old rules:

Racer Vs Racer: 7 single races <---------- (If they really want to)

Zoner Vs Zoner: 6 zone battles and 1 single race <---------- (Again, if they really want to)

Racer Vs Zoner: 4 single races and 3 zone battles

Your rules:

Racer Vs Racer: 5 single races and 2 zone battles <---------- (If these guys want to play 7 single races, why shouldn't they be able to?)

Zoner Vs Zoner: 3 single races and 4 zone battles <---------- (If these guys want to play 6 zone battles and 1 single race, why shouldn't they be able to?)

Racer Vs Zoner: 4 single races and 3 zone battles <---------- (See any similarity with the old rules?)

If I understood your rules correctly, this is what I get.

As I said, I understand what you are trying to do, but it just doesn't work for me. The result of doing it your way would simply be; to force diversity into other peoples games, when they can have more fun by deciding what to play themselves.

Only good thing I see from it, is that the racers would get some much needed zone battle practice. :P

Just my 5 cents.They shouldn't be able to because I thought we had all agreed on the fact we wanted to reward the all-round pilots? :| In my set-up you need to be able to perform in both game modes. Also, I would like to point out a difference in the Racer vs. Zoner one. It may look the same but it isn't. In "my" rules the Zoner picks 2 ZB tracks and 1 race track. He will most likely pick his best race track and so he has a chance of winning it. The racer will also pick his favourite ZB map so that he also has a chance of winning it. In the old rules however, the ZB would pick 3 ZB tracks and the racer would pick his 3 race tracks, making it harder for the Zoner to win a race (and vica versa) because it may not be his favourite race track. In my rules it's more balanced.

It is balanced, it's fair, it's all-round and most of all, it's simple. YES there is gonna a lot of Racer vs. Racer match-ups but they should at least have to play Zone Battle so that being all-round would be rewarded, right? I thought that much was clear.

But apparently not. I can't say I'm feeling a lot of sympathy from you guys for the Zone Battle mode in general. I ask all of you, do we want to reward all-round players? Because you might as well scrap ZB entirely if the answer to that is no.

Kanar:

By seeing Weapons ON and Weapons OFF as two different modes, you can have a 7-race match-up. If that's really what you want to allow, then okay. Also, 'racers' have the advantage in this scenario: 3 races is possible but 3 zone battles is not.
Sooo... we go from agreeing on the fact we want to reward all-round pilots, to a potential 7-race match-up.
All that within just 24 hours... :rolleyes:

Make it:

Both players have to pick at least two different modes, the modes being:

Single Race
Zone Battle

kanar
27th September 2010, 10:30 AM
it's up to JJPAP, soooorry, as it's on a private webpage for now lol. Oh, ONE MORE NEWS :

Back from his retirement and his apartment on Moa, The EXTREME Shortcut Master is IN. The guy who found most of the secrets of HD is IN.

PIRHAPAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this line up is ****ing AMAZING.

EDIT : Jav just saw your post right now after posting mine, I'll read that in a bit as I'm currently on my lunch break. SOooo, BRB ah ah

BACK.
Well. In my mind, here are the actual settings :

If you & your opponent are agreeing on your 6 choices, during the 72h information exchange delay

====> you're free to play whatever you want. (play wipeout hd please though)

If you & your opponent are not agreeing on your 6 choices, during the 72h information exchange delay

====>you guys must choose at least 2 different modes. (by modes I mean weapons/no weapons/zone battle)

So here, I'm admitting this cup is going to be a bit single race oriented, as there will be an inevitable limitation to 2 zone battles (in the worst case). But Fury isn't a requirement anyway, so there's some kind of justification here about the max 2 ZB limitation (in the worst case the 2 opponents don't agree on anything)

JJPAP
27th September 2010, 11:28 AM
The WipEout HD Cup (We can dance - if you want to?) will be up for anybody by tonight the latest.
Working on some minor details.

Jav
27th September 2010, 11:53 AM
BACK.
Well. In my mind, here are the actual settings :

If you & your opponent are agreeing on your 6 choices, during the 72h information exchange delay

====> you're free to play whatever you want.

If you & your opponent are not agreeing on your 6 choices, during the 72h information exchange delay

====>you guys must choose at least 2 different modes. (by modes I mean weapons/no weapons/zone battle)

So here, I'm admitting this cup is going to be a bit single race oriented, as there will be an inevitable limitation to 2 zone battles (in the worst case). But Fury isn't a requirement anyway, so there's some kind of justification here about the max 2 ZB limitation (in the worst case the 2 opponents don't agree on anything)Hmmm, it sounds decent but here's my what I think. Communication should not play a part in deciding the rules, because of this:

SO OFTEN (I have experienced this with other games a lot and it's really annoying), you try to communicate with your opponent, but he just won't reply, or he will take ages to. Communication can really delay the whole tournament. That's why I'm not a big fan of big tournys with a lot of players involved you don't know well. It usually goes like this:

Me: Hey, looks like you'll be my next opponent! :) When are you available?
Me: Yo?
(3 days later)
Player B: yo eh sry man I been away, how about tomorrow afternoon man, see you then peace lol
Me: Huh? What time zon-

*Player B has gone offline*

Me: ARGH. What time zone are you in? When can you play? And we haven't even agreed on what modes and tracks? :?
(2 days later)
Player B: yo where were you man, I said yesterday afternoon and you didnt show up pfft. Jeeeez man
Me: What?! I tried to set this race up when you suddenly went offl-

*Player B has gone offline*

Me: I give up.

--------------------------

Just saying... Past experiences have taught me that it usually doesn't work. But hey, it could be different this time... I hope.

R3BU5ER
27th September 2010, 12:02 PM
I can really understand your concerns jav, but I must say, I've never met such polite, cool and trustable players in any game (online). As in wipeout. Really. I think rverybody who participates is really going for this, so don't worrie mate, do not jet bring up the problems where there ain't none. :)

kanar
27th September 2010, 12:02 PM
totally agree there Jav, as we're currently experiencing these kind of situations at the avalon cup (well at least we had minor issues, & currently working on the Falcopelle case, I promise KGB, tonight). So that's why we'll be UBER STRICTS with the 72h information exchange delay. We MUST have a strong cup community manager crew, in order to report any troubleshootings with this so important rule. 72h in order to set 6 choices, agree on all of them without restrictions, or finally go with the default settings (2 different modes obligation)

I know we'll have to adopt a raptor-style for the cup community managing, smelling any MIA pilots at a long distance lol. But we're already 26 at the command center working on this cup, I should find a good crew of cup community managers.
27 now, as you joined lol.

Jav
27th September 2010, 12:15 PM
Nice to know others have these concerns too. And thanks for letting me in :) Yep, I think being very strict is the way to go then. If a player is not active, it should be reported immediately. There should be 2 or 3 (maybe 4) people who can be messaged to report such things. Community managers, like you said.

Everyone needs to know that communication should be as clear as possible. So when messaging your upcoming opponent, mention the time zone you're in, mention when you're available, mention what your preferred modes and tracks are. We will want communication to play a minimal role before the games so it should all happen very swiftly. 2-3 messages should be enough.

After all there's nothing quite as annoying as an inactive opponent.

mikrucio
27th September 2010, 12:30 PM
Who gets wipeout and doesn't get FURY>? face palm right there.:|
I can guarantee that 100% of the people on these forums have got fury.

kanar
27th September 2010, 12:50 PM
Rob doesn't have it:P

The Wipeout HD cup
"For the record"
ALL INFOS/RESERVATIONS HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181778&postcount=1)

blackwiggle
27th September 2010, 01:43 PM
Ok, make it info needed to enter the cup.
1]PSN ID * &/ or Forum you saw invite/applied to join from[that's if we are going down this route, makes it easier to trace recalcitrant pilots ]
2] Country of origin* and time difference from GMT*
3]Availability to race or days that can NOT race, in GMT*
4]How did you find out about the WC/who invited you?
5]Somebody else who is on your friends list who is either involved with the WC or invited you, and can contact you if needed to inform you of your race opponent draw & race schedule if needed.*

Maybe?
But I don't really see the point.
6]Preferred race type/speed class

* donates must have info

kanar
27th September 2010, 02:16 PM
BW that's interesting there. We'll ask for some of these infos in our future cup registration confirmation pm, so community managers will be able to give these preliminary infos, each round beginning to the concerned pilots.

The Wipeout HD cup
"For the record"
ALL INFOS/RESERVATIONS HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181778&postcount=1)

blackwiggle
27th September 2010, 02:20 PM
I think once other forums are hit you are looking at at least a 500 to 750 pilots that want in, quite easily more.

Be ready for it.

The only reason people haven't joined in something like this is because it has never been attempted before.:rock
Well not at this level anyway.

Connavar
27th September 2010, 05:06 PM
Great, I always wanted to give a final touch to the website, but had lost
motivation after the game slowly died ... I'm finally going to implement the
EVENT tab :D

Count me in!

kanar
27th September 2010, 05:09 PM
YAY connavar! I'm sending you an invite to the command center too, so you could contact the artist crew in order to synch wth 'em.

:rockawesome story so far.

JPA2097
27th September 2010, 05:12 PM
yeah, i wanna to play this wipeout hd. no fury tracks? :rock

kanar
27th September 2010, 05:14 PM
JPA!!! welcome to this cup! just check first post, the German translation is available as an attachment mate, thanks to R3BU5ER. Fury extension is just not a requirement to participate, that's all.

JJPAP
27th September 2010, 05:56 PM
WipEout HD Cup (We can dance - if you want to?)

:robot Epilepsy Warning!!! :robot

PC/Mac (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EMT49746) (WMV/41,2 MB) | PS3 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1XRLGBLE) (DivX/65,4 MB) | PSP (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SVPV5EOK) (mp4/6,25 MB) | YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHim5dfMWZk)

A VERY BIG THX to Novide and Unctuous!!! You guys rock :rock

Will post other formats later on, but I´m working hard to convert the 4 GB raw-file to reasonable (size and quality) formats, including DivX for the PS3.
Original resolution is 720p, but the WMV-file is scaled down to 640x360, so the size is not too overwhelming to download.
PM me if you´ve got any probs ... Erhhh, well, not any probs, but probs watching the vid :lol

Enjoy :)

mic-dk
27th September 2010, 06:47 PM
Wow, JJ!

If that doesn't pull in a thousand contestants nothing will. Wow! Again :p
(and Unctuous, that music is smack bang on target! :+ )

I don't know your Big Plans, but maybe release a second one with some one-on-one action, so somehow show what it's all about? I know, the first teaser has only just been released and now I demand more... :D

kanar
27th September 2010, 06:55 PM
:+:+this is freakin awesome yes. Freakin awesome isn't enough though. Put a HUGE link to your post in the first one of this thread. JJPAP you must put that on your youtube account as soon as you can! this is one of the most impressive stuff I've seen since... The official wipeout hd/fury advertisings lol. OMG the dance:P. A thousand contestants mic? Billions yeah!!! LOL

Dark_Phantom_89
27th September 2010, 07:08 PM
Regarding the ZB issue - remember that the idea of the cup is to make it as simple as possible, so I think it's best to go with the "each player must choose at least two modes" option; the modes being:

Weps On
Weps Off
ZB
Green (I'm not sure on this one, but it's up to everyone else.)

If one person does not have the Fury DLC, then they don't have to choose 2 different modes.

Just my $0.02.

JJ - That was a fantastic video, I was really impressed :+ Have a :beer on me

KGB
27th September 2010, 07:32 PM
Personally I think all this is complicating something very simple. A few of the pilots in this comp will be playing on the slower classes and wont stand a chance with the ZB, green or weps off side to it. To make them pick something they don't feel comfortable with is a sure fire way to stop them playing.

The Avalon rules work fine for me. I don't see why it needs to be changed. If I came up against someone who played 3 ZBs and I lost them all and then he won one of my phantom races then fine, I lost because he was the better all round player.

Just my thoughts, but majority rules :+

R3BU5ER
27th September 2010, 09:33 PM
Just leaving it like it is would be the best, imo.

I've said it once, and I'll say it again, the teaser rocks big time, JJPAP, great job!

We have got a brand new competitor :) 'ID_7of9'

kanar
27th September 2010, 09:40 PM
you'll be free to accept these 3 ZB KGB, if you're up to. And you'll be free to ask for at least one single race if you're against ProblemSolver. Well no, he didn't signed yet lol. I know there's some pilots around who don't like no weapon races, so if someone is coming with 3 no weapon races, his opponent could ask for at least one another mode. Same thing for a weapons allergic.

But as I said, if there's common agreement (during the 72h delay to exchange track infos) on the 6 choices, it's really up to you guys.

leungbok
27th September 2010, 09:54 PM
The Avalon rules work fine for me. I don't see why it needs to be changed. If I came up against someone who played 3 ZBs and I lost them all and then he won one of my phantom races then fine, I lost because he was the better all round player
i agree with that ! :)

mrconkin
27th September 2010, 09:55 PM
Just got word of this from a psn friend. Still open?

PSN: mrconkin

ONlock
27th September 2010, 09:58 PM
I'll stand by the old rules, they work like a charm. Not that I'm afraid to try something new.

Communication is key!

SaturnReturn
27th September 2010, 11:16 PM
I think the point originally, at least partly, was that someone who has spent most of their time on zone and zone battle has enough skill that they could jump into normal races and potentially gain the edge with luck there, whereas the opposite isn't really true, as there is no random element to zone battles. I kind of see the point there really.

In terms of being an all around pilot, this game is not just races or zone battles. What about all the TT/SL fans? That's a big part of the game too. Weapons off races are probably the best way to include something like that as we don't have online TT and green races are a non-official type of race. Weapons off and weapons on races are a very different prospect, IMO, and I think that's clear when we see that certain people can sometimes win a load of weapons on races, but then not have the accuracy and consistency in their racing to win out in the weapons off races.

I also feel that having a racing bias is fine, because that's what the game itself has. More game modes are based around racing than they are around zone, and online races are really the backbone of the online community, whereas ZB is far less popular.

The Avalon Cup hasn't gotten very far yet and so I don't really know how the current rules will play out, but I think anything that encourages a little variation is a good thing, as long as it doesn't force someone to pick something unfamiliar as part of their own three choices.



What you want to do if pilot assist is asked for, I say let them use it if they want to, as we old timers know it slows you down, so it's not really going to be an advantage to anybody that needs it.

I disagree with this. It's not as simple as PA just slowing you down. It's a matter of PA not allowing you too close to walls, thus preventing you taking tighter lines and doing shortcuts etc. But that only matters above a certain skill level when we start looking to really improve. But this competition is open to all, and some competitors in early rounds may even struggle with not hitting walls (I swear I still do sometimes:|). Someone at that level could get ripped off if they were doing their utmost to race at their best, while their opponent, of similar skill, just sat there holding the x-button and got lucky with weapons pads, or just stayed out of the walls on Moa Therma, thus having higher shield when the two start lag ramming each other and survived as a results, or something like that. I admit, it's a theoretical situation which is, perhaps, unlikely to happen, but I just think it should be turned off, and we should all fly ourselves to the finish line.

Jav
28th September 2010, 01:58 AM
I completely agree with Saturn for the first part of the post. I guess Weapons OFF are the closest to TT as it gets online. Basically, you have just convinced me of the fact it is a completely different mode. So I think the following rule is our best bet :)

"You have to pick at least two different modes, the modes being W-ON, W-OFF and ZB."

It keeps things simplest and it's quite all-round, if not a bit single race oriented. But since that is played the most by far, I guess it's a good representation. You can also still have 2 ZBs which is nice for those who want it. :)

----------------------------------------------------

As for PA, I think we'll all agree on the fact that a player who needs PA is never gonna be good enough to win a 7-race match up. They won't be a 'threat', and thus won't threaten the fairness of this competition.

Besides, if we are allowing ANY pilot whatsoever (taking part is what matters), then they should have the possibility to use it. If you don't allow PA, that's like saying you need to have a certain skill level in order to participate. But we have already clearly stated literally any pilot can participate.

PA allowed, imo

kanar
28th September 2010, 08:57 AM
Ah, PA. I believe it won't be a big deal there, I'm not sure a PA pilot can really be annoying when you're only 2 on the track, and tbh if you're using PA that means you're errrr... Well you won't stand a chance in this cup. You could ask the question to your opponent during the 72h exchanging information delay, but seriously I'm doubting to hear any report of a PA user during this cup. So it remains "as is", I mean we don't talk about that, it's kinda tolerated but won't be a big deal anyway.

eLhabib
28th September 2010, 04:32 PM
thanks to kanar, who drew my attention to this thread (because I've become an ignorant forum-browser in the last months :redface:) I will definitely take the offer to participate in this biggest and hopefully not last HD Cup! :rock

billychanxtr33m
28th September 2010, 05:32 PM
i would happily join this tournament if you would have me

Pahlan
28th September 2010, 05:33 PM
Count me in :) !

Storm_FF
28th September 2010, 06:55 PM
The biggest wipeout HD 1vs1 turneament? Count me in, crazy kanar :D

Falcopelle
28th September 2010, 07:02 PM
Count me in!!!

akirapill
28th September 2010, 08:37 PM
WipEout HD Cup (We can dance - if you want to?)

Very nice vid JJPAP, two words for yea. Epilepsy Warning.

ShawnFrecle
28th September 2010, 09:04 PM
Sound funny.... Count me in me too :)

JJPAP
28th September 2010, 09:11 PM
two words for yea. Epilepsy Warning.

Done :p

Also updated w/ a downloadable DivX file for perfect play on the PS3 :)

DividedXZero
28th September 2010, 09:44 PM
Do we have an exact time frame or just December?
I've left WOHD frequency, but i'll gladly start again (i desperately need the practice now, lol) for this event.

PS: I miss Studio Liverpool :(

(Also, can i link this on GFAQS?)

Kyonshi
28th September 2010, 10:00 PM
Holy crap, DividedXZero! :D

Glad you want to return to the tracks man! Hope you have a great time. Welcome back!

il_mago_di_Doz
28th September 2010, 10:15 PM
I'm in !!! :pizza
Tell me if there is still a place ^_^
And thanks to R3BU5ER for the invite

CHRIS REDFIELD
28th September 2010, 10:17 PM
Sound funny.... Count me in me too great kanar:)

drr1984
28th September 2010, 11:18 PM
Count me in me too great kanar
And thanks to R3BU5ER for the invite

Aeroracer
28th September 2010, 11:23 PM
I think the rules should stay the same as the cup thats happening now..they worked well as most players will negotiate a happy medium when setting up their games..

anything goes..

why spolil a good thing

kanar
28th September 2010, 11:34 PM
Whoa. Massive thanks for joining guys, was away for a few hours and everything's changed here lol. DividedXZero! Glad to see you there! I talked about december in order to prepare everything nicely & finish our avalon cup in good conditions. We should start around mid december, for a long journey, as there's a 3 week window each round. We'll prob. shorten this delay in the next rounds. And oh, well sure, you can pass the info on GFAQS, to be honest we didn't launch our webgames promo campaign yet, so feel free to go on. We'll have more promo footage soon too; The command center is working so hardly these days to prepare this cup. So let's make a quick update;

-I'm late in my psn spamfest, and I must finish that as there's sure some pilots who would like to join on this list. Should be done by the end of the week.
-JJPAP released an incredible revelation teaser (link first post)
-Connavar proposed us webpaging solutions, we should coordinate ourselves soon around this common project.
-Promo pics & new animation logos are on their way
-We should launch our second advertisement wave (gaming websites/twitter/Facebook in the next few weeks...
-new teasers should be available soon

And I'm asking myself. Why not 256 now? We just started this cup discussion a week ago. Obviously there's a relative interest for this cup. So let's try to double that. If we can't reach it, we'll organize a preliminary -offline- turn, probably a TT &/or a Zone, and we'll downscale the cup.

Jeeeez. I spent ages using this awful ps3 video editor in order to "participate" in the teaser department. Truly epic, as I'm a noob for video editing. So I've edited some wo hd/fury teasers (classic), and added some weirdoe shootings taken at the wipeout museum (I know.). You probably got the picture; me shooting my screen with my crappy cam... arrh first format issue. I got 100000 freezes editing my vid with this editor, dunno if it's normal, I even got a message from sony inviting me to report my issue. Then yay, mp4, superb, can't edit it through virtualdub. GaH. mp4 to avi eeeww 1go. 4h to upload that crappy stuff on youtube...

Wipeout HD cup crappy teaser HERE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g11kL6iQDI) :blarg

(http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181778&postcount=1)

R3BU5ER
29th September 2010, 07:34 AM
I've got some time today. you could send me a part of the spamming list if you'd like. It's going smooth so far! :) I'm already seeing lot's of the online racers here reservating their slots. Awesome!Got a message from 'hacenetchik'...going to be in! :) :+

OBH
29th September 2010, 08:37 AM
Your getting a great reception from this idea kanar. Good work :+

edit:
anyone asked fantmusik? dont see his name there.

XBARNSTERX
29th September 2010, 10:41 AM
I'll be up for this mate. how could you not be:D

kanar
29th September 2010, 11:09 AM
Welcome here XBARNSTERX :P! OBH, I think we contacted him, if not I remember Yeldar told me he'll try to enroll him lol.

And oh thanks, but this is truly a common work there, I would have done nothing at all without the help of the command center as a whole. I must thank the legendary pilots of this franchise too, who believed in this project right from the start. We have a chance to realize the wipeout unity with this cup; such a line up reunited, that was my dream, I shared it with you, and we're about to make it for real :nod.

Nutcase:259
29th September 2010, 11:55 AM
saw that JJAP video. thats insanly good. although i watched it with the sound off so the cut to splitscreen with a man dancing was a bit bizaar (im sure it makes sense with sound on)
:+:+:+:+:+

@Kanar, if your wondering how many people should be allowed to enter, maybe we should find out just how many people are willing to enter, once the mammoth online spam campaign is over. and then set a limit after :blarg

SuperNova
29th September 2010, 11:59 AM
Awwwright, Its go time

Sign Me Up :D

kanar
29th September 2010, 12:23 PM
Heya Supernova! Thanks for joining!

Hey Nut, :D mammoth online spam is still processing, thanks to R3BU5ER (hadn't finished T to Z yet). And our wipeout lobby group :P still have a lot of MIA pilots to persuade eh eh. So target is definitely 256 now.
And if target is unreachable (it is reachable :nod), we'll start with an offline preliminary round, composed of 1 SL, 1 TT & 1 Zone (settings TBC, if needed)

(http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181778&postcount=1)

JFthebestJan
29th September 2010, 03:23 PM
im in, thx 4 invite to ONlocke. offline elimination is a good idea

i play F1 2010 most of my free time now, cause it rocks!

someguy789
29th September 2010, 03:47 PM
got an invite from ONlocke on PSN.
haven't played for a while now but I've got plenty of time to practice and should be great fun.
I'm in!

kanar
29th September 2010, 07:10 PM
thanks for joining guys! JF, I had the chance to play F1 2010 at my brother-in-law's place, and check this out : ALL settings high, including anti-aliasing (:mr-t PC lol, almost rock solid 50/55/60 fps) + Wheel + dts surround + Monza under the rain = WHOAH. Awesome. so tbh, I don't even want to check how the game's running on our Ps3 now. i mean must be nice yeah, but after what I've seen, urgh.

Guys I received a text from the Legendary Mad-Ice, saying "thanks for the heads-up, I will be there" :P. I think is IN too :rock

(http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181778&postcount=1)

SaturnReturn
29th September 2010, 10:08 PM
Please reserve me a slot too kanar. I'm still a bit unsure about the stuff I mentioned to you before, but I'm not hearing any news on potential moves so I'll assume I'll be available.

kanar
30th September 2010, 08:05 AM
Really hope you'll be available Sat. Ok psn spamfest is def. over; now we're starting the 2nd (social networks) wave 8). Trying to see how Facebook is working atm :blarg. My account is KanarAvalon, feel free to send a friend request. I'll check the twitter stuff this week-end too, see if it could help us to spread the info. I've put in attachment, post 1, the actual line up with country flags. Feel free to pm me for pointing errors or adding your country flag (as I don't know for some of you).

R3BU5ER
30th September 2010, 10:33 AM
T-zig and thefellow3j are in! I Just send everybody back that they are om the list and that they should keep an eye om this thread coming months..

Jav
30th September 2010, 11:19 AM
Are there any closely related forums we could spam?

kanar
30th September 2010, 11:27 AM
Hey Jav, this is part of the plan yes. We're still working on some footage, then we'll spam the web real soon. Just opened a twitter account for the cup btw. R3BU5ER this is good news, the more the merrier! Havn't check my own final psn ID campaign result yet lol, I'll do that tonight.

The Wipeout HD cup
"For the record"
ALL INFOS/RESERVATIONS HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181778&postcount=1)
-Follow us on twitter! (http://twitter.com/kanarAvalon)

hacenetchik
30th September 2010, 11:58 AM
thanks for adding me R3BU5ER !

I'm proud and to be in this cup :g

slimjim
30th September 2010, 12:04 PM
sign me up please

kanar
30th September 2010, 06:23 PM
Welcome there slimjim, and welcome to Zelenious & zero3growlithe too.

I repeat for zero3growlithe & maybe for others : you'll have 3 weeks to arrange your meeting with your opponent for first round. 20 minutes of wipeout to set whatever you want with your opponent.

The Wipeout HD cup
"For the record"
ALL INFOS/RESERVATIONS HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181778&postcount=1)
-Follow us on twitter! (http://twitter.com/kanarAvalon)

jan709
30th September 2010, 06:39 PM
mmm right Jav; arh too bad I can't add a poll in the thread, would have been easier to know what the people think about this issue. So any thought is welcome guys.

Actual discussion :

Would you guys like to see zone battle restricted to a maximum of 2 per opponent?


The Wipeout HD cup
"For the record"
ALL INFOS/RESERVATIONS HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181778&postcount=1)

http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/images/misc/progress.gif

Yes please

kanar
30th September 2010, 06:42 PM
Lol. Jan709, rules are now settled;

("Hidden rule" : if you & your opponent are reaching a common agreement, you're totally free to choose whatever you want regarding your choices)
IF THERE'S NO COMMON AGREEMENT : Both players have to pick at least two different modes (modes are single race weapons, single race no weapons, zone battle).

UB3R~JKP
30th September 2010, 08:23 PM
Better get practicing!

kanar
1st October 2010, 12:38 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen, may I present you Mr Panda Man :P

He's our new mascot, and -maybe- the future Larry King of Wipeout. After his incredible acting performance in this Wipeout HD cup teaser that can be found HERE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g11kL6iQDI), we contacted him, and we're working on new teasers projects, and a possible talk-show live at the wipeout museum (read command center:D), with of course lots of guests invited for special interviews. This is just a project for now, sorry JJPAP btw, couldn't restrain myself, your idea was too funny to keep it just for myself. So guys Panda Man is just our official mascot for now, we're still negociating his contract for a deeper collaboration lol.
http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=210&pictureid=2706

The Wipeout HD cup
"For the record"
ALL INFOS/RESERVATIONS HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181778&postcount=1)
-Follow us on twitter! (http://twitter.com/kanarAvalon)

OBH
1st October 2010, 03:38 PM
Get djKyoto involved :beer

I cant have wipeout and banter without him :)

morfeo378
1st October 2010, 06:44 PM
hi kanar, anderkovver also want to participate, a greeting

blackwiggle
2nd October 2010, 12:32 AM
You'd be lucky if you got a response from djKyoto, he never answers PSN messages, plus he must have a job now because I seldomly see him online, and even then it's only for very brief periods, unlike previously when it seemed he was on 24/7.

OBH
2nd October 2010, 08:51 AM
Might need to get drastic. Im sure if i go round his house, and slap the cowboy in the face he'll get the message :beer

Challenger #001
2nd October 2010, 10:13 PM
Ace introduced me to a real ZB king a few weeks ago - P_Denton, and I along with Elf, Phantom and Luri all had a few races against him just a few hours ago. We're trying to convince him to join the cup, but with the 72-hr constraint it won't work, because he can only play on the weekends. :/ Shame, he's a great guy and would make a great opponent.

kanar
3rd October 2010, 12:04 AM
challenger , this 72h constraint just mean you'll have to decide yourself quickly _means a 72h reflection_ regarding your track choice, in order to allow to your opponent and yourself some time for practice. So OF COURSE you can arrange your meetings during the week-end, if your opponent is ok to play a week-end. So I repeat, 72h is just a first contact & a track exchange obligation. Challenger, bring us this zone ace!

Jav
3rd October 2010, 05:12 AM
Ah ye I know the guy. He's pretty good, had some races with him a while ago, I only just got the better of him. Sign him up. :D

R3BU5ER
3rd October 2010, 08:30 AM
Got a message from 'tragedia3' he wants to join. :)

OBH
3rd October 2010, 04:03 PM
loving the pandaman trailer! :g:+

QjonPL
3rd October 2010, 04:23 PM
Sign me in.

triboy
3rd October 2010, 06:57 PM
Good news Q ;) And another polish pilot wanna join - Tiduch :)

RageousX
3rd October 2010, 08:32 PM
Add me to the list! I suppose now is the time to pack Blur away and scrape the rust off my HD lines.

Jambo
3rd October 2010, 09:59 PM
Hey thanks for the invite on my PSN (JamboGT)

Am up for this, also have a friend, FunkyMunkyy who would like to enter and to be fair he is faster than me!

kanar
4th October 2010, 09:30 AM
:) Welcome to the cup guys! I saw there's rumors starting to spread over the internet, about our little project eh eh, which is nice. Here's a little update about the situation atm;

First & foremost, the main issue we're experiencing at the command center is the lack of time. We're all fkin busy in our real life, so we can't allow much time to this story. But, 140 reservations already, featuring the best pilots in the world, funky teasers, dope promo pics, tons of ideas, well this is already something!

The teaser department is working on a new -lethal- trailer wave, and believe me, from what I've already seen, it will be pure dope.
I'm still scouting the www, in search of lost Jedi pilots; and I'll continue with the psn spam a little bit more (M to Z, WZ pilots psn database here).

I've no update from Connavar yet regarding the event part construction on his website, fingers crossed he'll come back with badass news regarding this stuff soon.

We're preparing the playstation boards region-localized announcement. It will be the last part of our advertising promotion, with some announcements on other websites like neogaf, IGN... We're waiting a bit for this final step, as we would like to go with rock solid content like hd teasers, dedicated website/event part. But as I said earlier, the rumor is spreading, we just need to magnify it ;); "All the legendary pilots, finally reunited? Yes it's for real!"


The Wipeout HD cup
"For the record"
ALL INFOS/RESERVATIONS HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181778&postcount=1)
-Follow us on twitter! (http://twitter.com/kanarAvalon)

Zano
4th October 2010, 03:46 PM
I'm in! PSN ID: Zabijaka

QjonPL - nie masz szans pipko

Pure2097
4th October 2010, 09:30 PM
I'm definitely up for this.

PSNs SpirasDestinyX-2/Pure2097 (Pure2097 is my wipeout only PSN)

kanar
5th October 2010, 01:44 PM
Welcome to the cup guys! Also managed to sign kingheim for this event :). Wipeout unity FTW!


The Wipeout HD cup
"For the record"
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WARNING : UPCOMING KICK-ASS TRAILER FROM OBH - STAY TUNED HERE OR WITH TWITTER -WATCH OUT FOR THE UPCOMING LINK!

Jav
5th October 2010, 04:27 PM
Things setting up nicely :)

kanar
5th October 2010, 04:39 PM
true Jav. And we're still in the -deep- shadow lol. No official announcement, not even an announcement there too, the topic even struggling for his life with the bling brigade one. Obviously I couldn't post something scheduled for December in the already overcrowded arena section, as there's already lots of good topics and a fantastic upcoming Puerto Rico man Vs Uk ghost pilots. So yeah, I'm really happy to have a lot of friends helping me, and amazed to see already more than half of the slots reserved. And most of the legenday pilots with us. So yes, we're on our way to organise the biggest wipeout event ever. All in the name of unity.

The Wipeout HD cup
"For the record"
ALL INFOS/RESERVATIONS HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181778&postcount=1)
-Follow us on twitter! (http://twitter.com/kanarAvalon)

SpaceMunky
5th October 2010, 06:58 PM
You can count me in. Anything for Wipeout HD ;)

KGB
5th October 2010, 09:10 PM
Obviously I couldn't post something scheduled for December in the already overcrowded arena section, as there's already lots of good topics and a fantastic upcoming Puerto Rico man Vs Uk ghost pilots.

Funny :g

Mateo
5th October 2010, 11:24 PM
Count me in. Seems like I'll have once more to polish up my WOHD skills after I "retired"...:g

kanar
6th October 2010, 10:18 AM
welcome there guys!!! ok just a quick update; OBH released his first "electrifying" teaser. Link first post, belove this one, on tweeter, on my own facebook page, and on the wipeout hd facebook group page too lol. Amazing job OBH, good to see the command center crew is badass.

The Wipeout HD cup
"For the record"
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-Follow us on twitter! (http://twitter.com/kanarAvalon)
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WipeoutArena cup topic : (French website : HERE (http://www.wipeoutarena.net/tournois-f20/the-wipeout-hd-cup-coming-this-december-t1078.htm))

OBH Shockwave teaser HERE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52QJSAfsT1A)

alterego
6th October 2010, 12:02 PM
Hi Kanar, hi all.

you convinced me.

I'm In!

Let me know what I must do for the subscription to the hd cup. :)

Read You Soon
CdRom

kanar
6th October 2010, 12:09 PM
Heya mate!!!! well you just subscribed by posting here, everything's done :D!! welcome to the cup Big Bear!!


The Wipeout HD cup
"For the record"
ALL INFOS/RESERVATIONS HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181778&postcount=1)
-Follow us on twitter! (http://twitter.com/kanarAvalon)
-Follow us on Facebook! :
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WipeoutArena cup topic : (French website : HERE (http://www.wipeoutarena.net/tournois-f20/the-wipeout-hd-cup-coming-this-december-t1078.htm))

OBH Shockwave teaser HERE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52QJSAfsT1A)

Olol
6th October 2010, 04:02 PM
this sounds epic
you should advertise on ps3 trophies .co uk/com and STC

kanar
6th October 2010, 05:23 PM
Welcome there Olol! Well tbh, I'm loving this word of mouth aspect for now. We concentrated ourselves on the wipeout-profiled psn IDs first, from the legendary pilots to the young guns, and I still have around 150/300 inboxes to spam. And we're still waiting for Connavar reports regarding a possible dedicated wipeout hd cup section on his website. Of course we should be able to pilot everything from here; but a dedicated space would improve the cup feedbacks, one click for reports, vids, results... So this is one of the reasons why we didn't move to the next target here yet : http://uk.playstation.com/country-selector/ :D

IDReaper
6th October 2010, 05:36 PM
I suppose I should take one of those slots now. :)

Avalon cup will be good practice for this.

anderkovver
6th October 2010, 07:00 PM
good work kanar ...you did a great job to keep the game alive...im in too cu on the tracks

kanar
6th October 2010, 07:15 PM
Thanks mate; but I just opened a topic & shared my dreams... And you're all about to make that happen. I would be nothing without the command center crew btw; they're doing an amazing job so far, just today OBH came back with a shocking HD cup teaser... Still a long road before December, but everything's going smoothly so far. Gah no, my boss wants me to work a bit more LOL. -_-

Oh & nutcase came back with an awesome set of new pics, so I'll change the front pic in post 1 often eh eh.

Greenix
6th October 2010, 11:06 PM
Thanks for the invite Kanar, you've convinced me! Count me in :g Should be able to find time to come out of retirement, squeeze into the old girl and light up the engines. Gonna feel weird racing the old crew again ^_^

KGB
6th October 2010, 11:09 PM
Nice to see you joined up Greenix :D, what motivated you I wonder??

Greenix
6th October 2010, 11:17 PM
A cheeky, rather passed it racer, who told me I was :turd!;)
It's a good thing I didn't catch his name...

KGB
6th October 2010, 11:20 PM
Can't argue with that :g

kanar
7th October 2010, 06:27 AM
:g I SAY GREEN! Massive thanks there my friend, for joining us in this cup. I should say the best argument is this one...
It's probably the last time. The last opportunity we have to be finally all reunited into one big event... All in the name of our common racing memories. We spent real -unforgivable?- good times online all together these past 2 years, so let's just celebrate one last time, and make this Grand Finale wipeout HD deserves.

The Wipeout HD cup
"For the record"
ALL INFOS/RESERVATIONS HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181778&postcount=1)
-Follow us on twitter! (http://twitter.com/kanarAvalon)
-Follow us on Facebook! :
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WipeoutArena cup topic : (French website : HERE (http://www.wipeoutarena.net/tournois-f20/the-wipeout-hd-cup-coming-this-december-t1078.htm))

OBH
7th October 2010, 09:16 AM
I heard Greenix was past it. Leave him out maybe? :g:+:beer

yeldar2097
7th October 2010, 12:22 PM
Greenix left of his own accord, at least he's not a has-been without a PS3 :lol

...oh cock you know where I live... :brickwall

:g

OBH
7th October 2010, 02:51 PM
A has-been!!!???
I'm just dormant, forever plotting my return http://img.brothersoft.com/icon/softimage/s/space_oddity-346889-1268290654.jpeg

triboy
7th October 2010, 06:20 PM
I got another two pilots from Poland :)

"Morelka" and "rychu130"

And check this out: http://www.ps3site.pl/najwiekszy-w-historii-turniej-wipeout-hd/54917/

Unfortunatly they changed a lili bit my text:| But this is a one of two biggest gaming portals in Poland, so what the hell ;)

Greenix
7th October 2010, 06:25 PM
@Haydn - '...forever plotting my return'
Have I missed something?! This would suggest you have actually been there before.. :g

Nutcase:259
7th October 2010, 06:26 PM
nice its got my photo and novides logo on the site ;)
its my most internationally famous work :lol (too bad none of my real photos spark so much interest :lol)

kanar
7th October 2010, 06:49 PM
you'll become famous soon enough nutcase lol, you're definitely gifted. Your pics always attract the attention. Triboy! that's just awesome! You did a fantastic job, promoting this cup in your own country... Poland rocks!!!

Woah! We're definitely in the right direction. And good to read you there Greenix, what a feeling to see all the community reunited for this event. Spread the world, the wipeout pilots are on the move, for the biggest, teh baddest party ever!

And we still have to kidnap djkyoto and break his guitar hero bluray, oblige ProblemSolver to download 3.50 firmware, persuade JJohnEames COD MW2 is has been now, Stinkleroy that this game is not broken yet and pay an internet connection to Flashback_Jack. And where's Evolite too? I'm forgetting a few names here lol, but yeah, I really would like to get a complete picture of you all.... For the record.

OBH
7th October 2010, 06:53 PM
Ooooh isnt Greenix a funny man!! :g Aww, I really need a new slim ps3. I miss Greenix and Andybob both thinking they're good! :D

Cant believe Problemsolver is still boycotting 3.50!

Nutcase:259
7th October 2010, 07:05 PM
Awww how nice kanar. when im famous. ill guarantee a signed photo :P


Boycotting a firmware? why. and doesn't that mean every time the game turns on it pops up, surly you could just accidentaly press it. then what? :lol

OBH
7th October 2010, 07:14 PM
Never underestimate PS. He's a clever man :)

kanar
7th October 2010, 07:16 PM
he needs Linux for his work as far as I remember. Too bad, cos' he was seriously badass on the tracks. Not even talking about Zone mode.

Feisargal93
7th October 2010, 07:21 PM
Ok okay! :) Please allow me to participate! This is very confusing but I'll try my best to figure it out.

mic-dk
7th October 2010, 07:24 PM
It's quite simple really. A 7 race 1v1, you pick 3 tracks/racemodes, your opponent picks 3 and Kanar picks the last.

Whoever wins the most is on to the next round. Easypeasy :)

Feisargal93
7th October 2010, 07:36 PM
Ohhhh! >_< I'm so going to lose but I'll try my best! Look out all you non-pro WOHD players, you're up for some tough competition! >:O

triboy
7th October 2010, 07:51 PM
I turned on my PS3, and.... got couple new pilots, from Poland offcourse ;)

jakub_mantaj / bi4l4s0pl0 /meesiash / enterrulez / LipaPL / guanabanakupa

kanar
7th October 2010, 08:12 PM
OMG Poland is the first wipeout nation in the world!!! Awesome job there Triboy!

Nutcase:259
7th October 2010, 08:14 PM
god damn look at the first page! soooo many names.

not getting cold feet about this epic project yet Kanar? :P

still just under 90 slots left. gonna be incredible! :g

kanar
7th October 2010, 08:49 PM
next step is 512 8). I'm kidding of course. Woah was a little disoriented today with my job, the wife, the avalon cup results, the new subscribtions here and Michael Jordan. Yeah this is kinda astonishing already. Proof we're definitely a special community. And well, the best game ever deserves the best thing ever. 256, that's a huge number eh eh, but the cup format is relatively easy to manage. We're actually recruiting the cup community managers, who will be in charge of a group of pilots. Means we'll be 7 or 8 managers for round 1, giving you the latest news by psn pm. You'll have to report your status to them. triboy it would be awesome if you could join us in this team, as you could help your Polish friends as I'm helping some of my fellow frenchies with the english language. Communication will be the key, we don't need that much infos because it's still a racing game and not an RPG, but we'll need to share the basics. Anyway I'm sure everything will be ok, we had a few MIA pilots on the avalon cup, but the competition is definitely a blast anyway. So I'm rather confidant for this one eh eh.

Oh btw we'll open a dedicated chatbox for the cup on the ps3, so that you guys could share some infos sometimes all together. We'll send you the invite after the registration step.

The Wipeout HD cup
"For the record"
ALL INFOS/RESERVATIONS HERE (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181778&postcount=1)
-Follow us on twitter! (http://twitter.com/kanarAvalon)
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WipeoutArena cup topic : (French website : HERE (http://www.wipeoutarena.net/tournois-f20/the-wipeout-hd-cup-coming-this-december-t1078.htm))

Colonel
7th October 2010, 11:00 PM
Hi Kanar,

Just to let you know I've got rid of the Col__Gad account I was using (well actually infoxicated kindly did it for me). Any chance you could amend my name on the info page, just saves any confusion when the draw is done.

Thanks.

All the best,

Adam.

kanar
8th October 2010, 08:43 AM
Done mate. I've tried to put the PSN ids only, hope they're all corrects. By the way, don't forget to check if your name is on the frontpage, as subscribtions came from everywhere, maybe I forgot a few pilots so far. I'm adding a new group regarding the subscribtions btw, in order to save us some time with the massive registration confirmation PM. So if you're already READY to go for this December (I mean you understood the rules, you're visiting WZ often, and you're sure to find time for this cup in the next few months), then I'll put you in the Confirmed Slots.

The Wipeout HD cup
"For the record"
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-Follow us on twitter! (http://twitter.com/kanarAvalon)
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WipeoutArena cup topic : (French website : HERE (http://www.wipeoutarena.net/tournois-f20/the-wipeout-hd-cup-coming-this-december-t1078.htm))

Cyberio
8th October 2010, 01:06 PM
I will be here!!!!!!!

TwitchySpitfire
8th October 2010, 02:22 PM
Count me in! I will have to read the rules again to solidify them in my brain, but I will before December kicks off. I will need to practice, but I wont worry. I will gladly get last place and feel great about it. :g

R3BU5ER
8th October 2010, 02:32 PM
Been away for Ã* few days and whow!!!! So many new competitors! :) I think this is gonna work Kanar! Chapeau! :D

Pure2097
8th October 2010, 03:37 PM
Yup, I can confirm I will be definitely in this :D

kanar
8th October 2010, 05:10 PM
eh eh ok guys, sorry, I was just trying to set who needs more infos, and who is ready to fly already. You all receive confirmations by psn pms as soon as registration will be closed. OMG it took me ages to update the .doc in attachment first post, 172 is a huge number already and my brain is too old for that lol.

nothern7
8th October 2010, 05:34 PM
Hi kanar i'm down on the list as northern7 where as my psn i.d is nothern7 just incase you want to update this, cheers pal :)

kanar
8th October 2010, 05:36 PM
aww that's a kind attention there mate. thanks a lot, updating that.

triboy
8th October 2010, 07:46 PM
Ekhm... You never guess...

Aresgracz / rubygracz / Ziolo_rastamaN

:)

timo862 / dasio_pl

:)

OBH
8th October 2010, 11:19 PM
AM i the only one who has no idea who any of those names are? :)

R3BU5ER
9th October 2010, 07:55 AM
'infoxicated' is in! :)

Flaragon
9th October 2010, 09:20 AM
Flaragon is on board! Looks like I'm gonna need to re-tune my racing skills! ;)

Olol
9th October 2010, 11:30 AM
lord_rushton in the house ;)

Colonel
10th October 2010, 12:49 AM
Kanar could you please add CarLeo76 to the list.

Thanks.

kanar
10th October 2010, 04:30 PM
I would like to thank Rob for his support there. Thank you so much for the frontpage, & the sticky, and for believing in us. Gravity definitely ends this December, so let's Fly High all together!

The Wipeout HD cup
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WipeoutArena cup topic : (French website : HERE (http://www.wipeoutarena.net/tournois-f20/the-wipeout-hd-cup-coming-this-december-t1078.htm))

empireman
10th October 2010, 09:42 PM
Hi, if there are any spots left, I would definitely like to enter.

Cheers

kanar
10th October 2010, 09:46 PM
Hey there empireman, 73 spots left now, as you registered. Please send me your psn ID btw

triboy
10th October 2010, 10:09 PM
hamsterPL wanna join ;)

OBH
11th October 2010, 07:54 AM
Im impressed how many people are signing up to the site just to put their interest down for this :)

SonicChaos
11th October 2010, 02:32 PM
I'm in.