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UB3R~JKP
28th February 2010, 09:56 PM
Seriously, whenever you playing online do you get a sudden burst of aggresivness in regards to wanting to come 1st so badly :p

I get too much involved with WipEout and this happens to me frequently...

what about you guys:lol

Aeroracer
28th February 2010, 10:54 PM
not really..

But i keep my expectations low so i enjoy online and wont quit playing just cos im not the world champion after a couple of hours online play..

nearest i get to what u talk about is when i am in second near the end of the race and i believe i can win it..i turn it on hard and go for either blow them off the track and race safe or just do some risky flying using side shifts and anything to make me go faster.I find in these situations my brain goes quite quick so i can make a good desision..dosnt always pay off but sometimes it does..

AspenExcel
1st March 2010, 12:03 AM
All the time. I get really angry and aggressive especially when I'm in races with 6 or 7 other people and I can hardly maneuver because I keep getting shoved into the wall or missiles/rockets are flying everywhere, or bombs and mines are being thrown in my face. I really wish they had an option to limit the amount of players in a race, in my opinion 4 is the perfect size.

AG-wolf
1st March 2010, 12:07 AM
I get pretty violent... it's not so much out of a desire to come in first, but rather the insult I feel when I'm stuck at the back of the pack. I'm not at the top tier of pilots out there, but I don't suck either... unfortunately, sometimes I just get the short end of the stick and eat tons of weapons, or fly off the track somewhere inopportune, and it leaves me screwed for the rest of the race. THis is the most infuriating thing ever because I KNOW I can do better, but the game is just like LOL NO

I only really start getting angry if stuff like that happens consistently... otherwise, I kinda just chill and take victories and losses in stride.

I get REAL angry at myself in Speed Lap or Time Trial offline though. I know the bar is set high but I have this attitude of if other people can do it, so can I, so I get really psyched up when I'm trying to focus hard and shave down that 5/100ths of a second or something lol

KIGO1987
1st March 2010, 04:03 AM
Seriously, whenever you playing online do you get a sudden burst of aggresivness in regards to wanting to come 1st so badly :p

I get too much involved with WipEout and this happens to me frequently...

what about you guys:lol

LOL me too. My downstairs neighbors go ape when i go on a swearing fit when im trying to get a simple trophy.

The local GAME store staff knows me alot now since im always in there buying new PS3 controllers, since my PS3 controllers get thrown around a bit. Was soooo mad last summer that one of the PS3 controllers went out of the apartment window XD. I hope it didnt hit anyone on the head :eek Well we are the city with the four seasons in a day i guess haha :D

Dark_Phantom_89
1st March 2010, 11:38 AM
Rarely. I can handle a bit of the odd Cambodia here and there, however there are times when it got to a ridiculous level.

The worst for me was going from a 6 second lead in 1st down to 8th thanks to a quake, leech beam, missile, rockets, and bomb all one after another. Then I got rammed off the edge twice - needless to say I got angry at that one.

I thought "Ok, that was a one-off - Cambodia at that level doesn't happen often." The next 6 races were almost exactly the same. I had to leave the lobby after that and take a break to save my precious controller being thrown.

ACE-FLO
1st March 2010, 12:31 PM
Don't care for 1st place, just don't wanna come last... If I come 2nd before last - I'm ok with that...

If by a combination of mad luck and some skill, I do manage to take a win - I get bloody nervous, coz I think "Schitt - I beat the pros, now they gonna lynch me" and er, they usually do... still, I dont get mad... No... Next race, I get the "Successful Pacifist" badge ROFL

Mr Phlanj
1st March 2010, 12:33 PM
having OBH as a brother i lernt a long long time ago not to get angry when i loose at games :D

its funny meeting new people who will say "yer were the best in are group at X game" and then when i win it destroys them even more when i say "yer but i cant beat my bro at it"

stinkleroy
1st March 2010, 12:43 PM
Rarely. I can handle a bit of the odd Cambodia here and there, however there are times when it got to a ridiculous level.

The worst for me was going from a 6 second lead in 1st down to 8th thanks to a quake, leech beam, missile, rockets, and bomb all one after another. Then I got rammed off the edge twice - needless to say I got angry at that one.

I thought "Ok, that was a one-off - Cambodia at that level doesn't happen often." The next 6 races were almost exactly the same. I had to leave the lobby after that and take a break to save my precious controller being thrown.

Completely agree with you, I am partial to rage quit these days...not because I want to win, all I'm bothered about is a good race. However with the amount of weapons firing around the track these days that seems impossible and is the reason I rarely play online anymore. That is the only time I ever feel angry with this game. I counted 6 quakes in one race a few days back, that was enough to send me offline again ;)

Woopzilla
1st March 2010, 12:50 PM
I enjoy the fierce competition when everyone is racing close to one another and weapons are flying all over the place. It's a good bit of fun.

The only thing that annoys me is when the race leader is 6+ seconds ahead and still drops every mine and bomb he picks up. I get annoyed but not exactly to 'RAGE' levels. I never ragequit.

I'm fairly content with losing. I occasionally host games and wait for players to join, and sometimes good players join up and I have to 1v1 them. :blarg Had the pleasure a week or two ago to race Ace3cube 8 times in a row because noone was joining, and was left eating dust every time. Though we weren't using weapons, we had them active, but had a mutual understanding to 'just race hard!'. :P

stinkleroy
1st March 2010, 01:00 PM
@woop I don't necessarily call that competition, merely lucky pick ups imo. I played wipeout online quite happily since release day until a small patch just before Fury was released. A weapons tweak was clearly implemented as now my races were even able to be ruined by the person in last place, spraying the track with mines and bombs :/

Before that patch, online really was a great deal more fun :D

yeldar2097
1st March 2010, 01:01 PM
I can understand the RAGE thing, getting shot by someone who doesn't need to shoot really ****s me off. I'd hate to see the RAGE get to some people because they already fire off every weapon they get like it's some sort of virus. Using bombs with a 3-4 second lead? Really? Really? Pff...

I get carried away with BRs. If someone or everyone is getting on my nerves I just Barrel Roll my tits off and laugh if I win because I didn't have to do so by slowing people down with weps.

Although more often than not it gets me killed because apparently weapons pwn all nowadays... -_-


:g

Woopzilla
1st March 2010, 01:10 PM
I guess weapon pickups are luck related but it's still good fun... sometimes. :P

I've been bombed and even rocketed by people as I lap them when in first place (those players that join and have obviously never played phantom before), that's fairly rage inducing when your engine output is reduced to zero and all you see is those sparks as you slide across the track. Then the culprit bumbles past you while you just sit there. :P

But again, I don't 'try too hard' to win. I've actually got quite a nice collection of 'Successful Pacifist' bagdes. :D

stinkleroy
1st March 2010, 01:29 PM
Agreed woop. That is highly annoying ;)

Yeah I am very much a pacifist, yeld will tell you that lol. I think I have over 400 of those badges now, only being beaten by speed pad hunter. Not that badges mean much ;)

yeldar2097
1st March 2010, 01:36 PM
I have less than 50 weapons related badges in total (not counting the shield ones. I love my shield) ^_^

Aeroracer
1st March 2010, 01:50 PM
be ruined by the person in last place, spraying the track with mines and bombs :/

Before that patch, online really was a great deal more fun :D

was gonna say i dont really have a problem with online until stinkleeroy wrote this...
I do get bugged by lapped loser bombers.

and its also true to say the randomness of weapons gets quite silly sometimes when you do get silly amounts of just one type of weapons such as quakes which i think i would love to turn off in option in my rooms.

I also agree with Ace that provided at least one player is behind me when i finish the race i have nice smile on my face..i play to my limits not someone elses..

boxman22
1st March 2010, 02:20 PM
Seriously, whenever you playing online do you get a sudden burst of aggresivness in regards to wanting to come 1st so badly :p

I get too much involved with WipEout and this happens to me frequently...

what about you guys:lol
I can handle losing races, but i can get a bit agressive if i get mined to he*l several races in a row.

shapealot
1st March 2010, 02:52 PM
its rare i fire a shot because its precious BR energy an i need as much as i can get. it doesnt bother me if i mess up a shortcut an come off thats my own fault for tryna be a smart ass so i just laugh but some guy side shifted me off the track on sol 2 twice in 2 races and thats just bad manners online so i thought it would be fun to blow this guy up. i didnt have the RAGE but it was good good to see him explode :rock

q_dmc12
1st March 2010, 04:31 PM
I have my moments - its usually FPSs that tense me to win. :pirate

wich
1st March 2010, 05:01 PM
PvP I don't rage, I can get a bit miffed sometimes when you keep getting blown to bit several times in a row, but I never rage quit.

Versus AI I can get real angry though, I just hate it when you know you can pick up that gold medal by just a hair and then you get hit with three weapons in two seconds and are dead last again, that's caused the odd swearing fit. Though I learned not to throw the controller, as I started playing wipeout on the PSP. Would've sucked to throw that through the room...

UB3R~JKP
1st March 2010, 05:42 PM
New story y'all:

Playing fury on Elite difficulty Moa Therma, sitting 1st but...
...suddenly Pirahna is on my tail hits me with a quake before last corner(still 1st atm) then gets ANOTHER quake beats me by -0.01 Seconds

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

Neighbour knocks up i get angrier and go on a rage for some pepsi xD

IDReaper
1st March 2010, 06:11 PM
Yes, but it takes quite a lot for me to get to that point and by then I am no longer thinking about placing, full agro/revenge mode on =D. Usually my badges will either be fastest top speed or most accurate(cannons :P). I've gone into rage mode when that most accurate badge becomes a destroyer badge lol. Otherwise I like to absorb/shield all the time with the occasional turbo.

I'm sure I give more rage than I receive though. I'm as cheap as possible with the weapons in this game and I'll admit that openly.

haiku
1st March 2010, 11:59 PM
Using bombs with a 3-4 second lead? Really? Really? Pff...


Pathetic as it is, I do this. I'm so insecure and jittery when I get a good lead in a strong race that I know my nerves will cause me to eat some turn or or fly off the bridge in Chenghou Project. When I score a lead like that, I will leave every bomb and mine I can get.

One day I'll be able to keep my cool in a lead and absorb, but I play some of you WOZ pilots online and you monsters will eat every millisecond you can to catch up if you fall behind.

LOUDandPROUD
2nd March 2010, 04:18 PM
Yah, I'm pretty much the same way...I get so nervous with a lead that I need all the help I can get to maintain it. :redface:

afuroKy
2nd March 2010, 06:53 PM
WOHD may be the only game that doesn't make me go mental.
Because in this type of game the best player wins.
Sure there r moments where you are out of luck, but in Wipeout HD there is no "camp", "spam", "glitch"( well I haven't seen any really bad thing yet...) or "abuse of whatever". And it is a very punishing game by nature, and I the first things I see are my own mistakes.

Sometimes I'll act like "oh this is ****d up, I take a piss" leaving my ship on the track

I wud just have liked to see a ghost option :)

Aeroracer
3rd March 2010, 09:36 PM
i got carried away in my last tornament..

first race i was in the lead cruising along then suddenly i star getting shot at with rockets quakes and al sorts of nasty things and eventually i got blown off the track..i caught up and on last bend and used aturbo and beat them with like a hundredth of a second..Every race afterwards was fought with tooth and nail with leaders changing throughout the race they won a race i won a race it ended with final race with one point between first and second and the whole tornament was decided on a rocket blast on the final stretch..

we both got carried away and it was a battle of wills we both pulled every trick in the book to beat each other...

held nothing back...

it was really fun and enjoyable..i hope he liked it as much as me.

but we both definatley got carried away..:nod

ACE-FLO
6th March 2010, 01:16 PM
Using bombs with a 3-4 second lead? Really? Really? Pff...

If I'm in front, and you're in the same race - I'm dropping everything I can mate... HD is a nice title, yes - BUT THIS IS FURY, get with it, or die trying is what I say...
SO yeah, guilty of this myself. I love to Cannon someone to a standstill personally. But hey, If I got a bomb, or mines and I'm seconds ahead - damn straight, in the words of Snoop Doggy Doggy - "DROP IT LIKE ITS HOT"

OH, and if i'm like 10 secs ahead, and got rockets... I'm TURNIING AROUND TO SHOOT YA HEAD ON!

Besides, the badges are quite collectible, you know :lol

ACE-FURY-FLO :rock

Raziel-X007
6th March 2010, 02:09 PM
Well, I can enjoy the game, even if I'm not in first...

Just getting better and getting the badges are good enough for me!

SaturnReturn
6th March 2010, 02:31 PM
Therein lies the problem. It wasn't always Fury. There weren't always so many bombs and mines everywhere, or weapons in general. Phrases to describe those kind of races came up because it happened sometimes, but wasn't the norm, and now it is. I think too many these days are relying on these kinds of 'tactics' which embrace those aspects of the game, which I consider slightly broken in that sense since Fury (or more likely the update just before, if memory serves).

It's not only the game itself, we're all better at it and closer in terms of skill these days, which means more weapons in a tighter space. But surely the reason we play online is to test ourselves against each other. Shouldn't it be more about a furious race based on a passion for speed and skill? Where's the test in going to such extremes that you drop all the arse litter you can just to maintain a deficit which only prevents us racing each other in the first place? All it does is make each other furious and drives people away from the online game. I can think of quite a few who don't play online any more, simply because they got fed up with those kinds of races. Some people don't realise it, but it's true, and I for one think that many are getting a bit carried away too frequently. Is it really so important to win that we degrade the racing element so far and ruin others' enjoyment of the game? I say enjoyment, because it's not the losing the race that does my head in, it's the constant loss of momentum in a game which is, in my opinion, supposed to be largely about speed. If not, then why race at Phantom in the first place?

To anyone who is thinking of telling me to bugger off and play a different game if I don't like the way it is, I say this:
I could go and play a different game. I could host less popular weapons off races where half the field, particularly newer pilots, leave the game as soon as they realise. I could create private games and race like minded people who feel the same way about the weapons situation (as a lot of folk are already doing). But is that really going to help maintain an already waning online community? In a word - NO.

yeldar2097
6th March 2010, 02:53 PM
It's funny you should say that, I wrote exactly the same thing as you. Word for word. Word :rock

Ok I didn't but it's what I would have said if I had the mental capacity to convert whatever it is that I'm thinking into words...

Very well put Mister S, very well put indeed :nod

+1000,000 :+

Raziel-X007
6th March 2010, 04:35 PM
Indeed the community is more aggressive, but again, it essence, Speed will prevail and a good racer can Dodge most weapons (Quake is still THAT exception). But for the most part, I race, I Battle, I love to Zone (My specialty!), and for the most part, I enjoy it.

So, I can't say, bugger off or P*** off (UK and US) or anything else negative. Broken, maybe, but in perspective, you can only get mad at yourself for losing if you let it consume you. Getting carried away, always, but be glad to play and if you don't like it, there is always offline mode.

You want to continue online, get a few friends and host. I prefer public until I get some more friends!

Nuff Said.

ACE-FLO
7th March 2010, 01:30 PM
Well put SR. I understand what you are saying totally. But don't totally agree, thouigh I can appreciate what you are saying.

For me, WipEout racing has been a bit of a different experience. See, I got Pulse in December 2008, already a year too late - and online all I ever experienced was cambodia type races... worse even, especially the early days, when pilots like Infaxsu and Phurawsity would back quake me... YES - they turn their ship around and fire a quake down the track. I used to come like 10+ seconds behing in n a race, sometimes getting the DNF coz I couldn't finish. Already, those who played Pulse since release, were dropping mines and bombs althuogh they were blatantly half a lap ahead... I learnt through this school of hard knocks, and became a bloody good pilot I think. This was my WipEout education against other REAL pilots. Ask MSSA today what he thinks of weps ON races in Pulse, and he'll still say the same thing - "weps off rules" and I know what he means, it's real racing without the combat...

For me though, I've known nothing else but full on combat racing - all I ever did in my first two months of online Pulse was DNF and come last. Seriously. But I stuck with it, and thought - if they can do it, I can do it. Damn straight I could. Yeah, initially I hated not being skilled enough to dodge well placed mines, ort anticipating a bomb drop from someone ahead of me by a fraction of a second - while tryiing to maintain my lines - I learnt all this online in Pulse... and started to feel likie I had arrived. And I bloody well had, too!

Anyway, come Sept. I CFW my PSP and it hasn't worked since, totally effed. SO I got a PS3 and HDFury on Bluray Disc. This, in October 2009. So, Again, I come to the party late and am once again a noob. And what I discover abnout pilot mentalities regarding weps is shocking to me. The seasones pilots of HD since its release have a massive pet hate for FURY. This I find annoying. I go online and all peeps wanna do is host the same damn HD tracks over and over - and they wanna complain about weps and cambodia. WTF? I'm bloody well pleased that the PSN update for wipEout allowed for heavier weps deployment, leading to Cambodia online - I'm used to cambodia now, have been living there since Pulse so it's my comfort zone. Am I the only one here who likes heavy weps races? I'm not talking ELIMINATOR - that is not my discipline - I am talking racing to win (if it is possible) and blowing up anyone who tries to beat me.

I aint gonna lie and say, yeah - I'm happy to come last - for me, after 100's of hours spent on pulse on and HDFury combined, over the past 14 months or so - I want to win some races in a hosted session. This game is competitive, probably the hardest racing game to master because of the nature of weapons integration into hi-speed gravity defying tracks.

I'm nowhere near as good as you guys, I don't practice offline - haven't even completed the grids yet - not even half way through - don't feel I want to either... time constraints only allow for me to fulfil my need to race online with my Zoner buddies.

I had no idea what Pre-Fury HD was ike, so to me HD-FURY is the standard, not a fragmented game which came in two parts. Or a game which is frustratingly despised bacause of the heavy weps races due to a update for the game, When I got the game - it was already full on FURY with weps carnage :)...

Also, with regard to dropping mines and bombs when pilots are seconds ahead - | have no problem with that, and see it as fair play. SOmetimes I am lucky with weps pick ups, other times - it's others... and that's the nature of Fury imo. AS for lapped noobsbombing and mining me if I am 1st, is cool too - I try and anticipate that and adjust accordingly should they "drop it like it's hot" - for me, 1st place is still a dangerous place to be in this game - YES - and that's what makes this game so intense and exciting... for me this is the essence of FURY, and I love SL's vision, and update because of it!

Had the game 5 months now, and though I love the game to bits, I don't like some of the attitudes which zoners have towards weps on races - to me it seems almost hypocritical at times. E.g - someone is hosting weps on races, and complaining in PSN message that it was cambodia and they hate weps races with a passion - yet, they carry on hosting Weps on races :lol wtf? I stay in that room and try and take full advantage of that. That's me. And I aint no uber faast pilot either, just someone who is along for the ride, and wnats to enjoy himself while he is there to race - no matter what happpens on track.

Peace to all :)

MrSmadSmartAlex
7th March 2010, 02:29 PM
All it does is make each other furious and drives people away from the online game. I can think of quite a few who don't play online any more, simply because they got fed up with those kinds of races. Some people don't realise it, but it's true, and I for one think that many are getting a bit carried away too frequently. Is it really so important to win that we degrade the racing element so far and ruin others' enjoyment of the game?
True, it drove me away from WOHD before I even bought it (which I haven't). :lol
The thing is, if the weapons are there, you've got to use them - it's just the game. It's not that I hate weapons being there, and I appreciate the tactical side of them, it's just that they're so ridiculously overpowered that they ruin practically every race. So I'd rather not play. If I ever get a PS3, I'll be mostly a TT/SL player on HD.

Ask MSSA today what he thinks of weps ON races in Pulse, and he'll still say the same thing - "weps off rules" and I know what he means, it's real racing without the combat...
Yes I will! :D
The only thing I like about weapons-on racing is that I can absorb and do more barrel rolls! :D
You did become a great player btw, mate, and not only weapons-on. I remember you pulling under 1:55 on Talon's W weps off once. ;)

ACE-FLO
7th March 2010, 02:39 PM
Get HD-FURY Smadders - I miss playing you the most out of everyone mate - we learnt together if I recall correctly. You, me and Hax :lol, those were the days of innocence :D

Raziel-X007
7th March 2010, 02:43 PM
Tough Words above, but still, a great race is still a great race... But without weapons, that will take skill. Some people just don't have it. But it's a race all the same....

OBH
7th March 2010, 03:04 PM
Ive always enjoyed pretty much all modes woHD has to offer. Each requires its own measure of skill (and luck). Some say weapon races is all about luck, but then again 'weapon off' races requires its own luck. (starting from last place in a room full of 'zoners is one hell of an uphill struggle).

I can understand why weapons drive people crazy sometimes, but so long as you actually use them, it all swings in roundabouts and youll eventually recieve just as much good luck as you do bad luck :beer

The things that always got me riled and shouting are things like -- popping in the air on TJ when youve smashed into an invisible wall, lag kindly making you hit a bomb that wasnt even visible, lag making you hit a bomb despite you being a tracks width away from it, the normally very useful announcer lady not warning me a quake is coming when ive been holding onto a single shield for just that reason, or my all time favourite swear-a-thon -- Racing in 1st against Japan when from out of nowhere i fell through the floor in the tunnel on SC Rev, and continuously fell through one spot respawning endlessly and unable to move :dizzy:eek:robot

Im very competative, and a pretty sore loser, but at do try and remind myself that "its only a game" :)

Lance
7th March 2010, 04:18 PM
Well, finally someone gets back on topic. ;) Thanks, OBH.

Autechom
11th March 2010, 09:33 AM
Doing Phantom Elite on C. Project. Have tried now seeeveerral times. Last lap and my chances to win were very high. Got an autopilt. And it did what? Carried my craft off the track, race lost. Not to mention all the other things. This is just unfair and stands in no relation to the others tracks on this difficulty settings which were all really doable without too much anger. But now, I go crazy after a certain period of time and turn into a crybaby ; ) But I will continue until it is done..in no other game I would try this. This game will be my personal doom (for my nerves,haha).

Edit: I did it..finally (With Mirage). Uff.

Temet
11th March 2010, 01:33 PM
Well, I almost always lose, so that's not an issue.
What pisses me off is that being last, I eat tons of mines and bombs... and when you're last, it's not fun to get even more delay like this :'(

Autechom
13th March 2010, 09:47 AM
And itīs so wonderful, playing Syncopia in Zone mode.It happened 4 times in Zone mode that I wanted to correct the direction of my craft and performed a barrel roll. So I lost 60 shield points. That sucks...

ProblemSolver
13th March 2010, 11:23 AM
@Autechom: But you got pointz. :D