Phantom Online

[bik3rluke]

I've been staying over my step-dads house a lot lately so I've been on WipEout HD under his alias (xTHORGODx) and there's been quite a few times that there's literally no phantom races going. I create one and sit there for a 10-15 minutes with no-one joining and then just turn it off. I'm actually a little bit upset than in a few months more and more will have stopped playing and it will become a battle to actually find a game.

Anyone else feel like this?

[Rezatron]

I sure hope not, because I just started playing Phantom online today (played you in a few races I believe). Sunday nights usually aren't that busy anyway, usually you can find 1 or 2 high quality Phantom rooms in late afternoon/early evening during the weekday and Saturdays.

What I don't understand is why alot of people here don't play anything other than phantom, like you said you would rather turn the system off rather than join a Rapier or Flash (omg Flash total noobz) room. I don't understand that, there are a good number of great pilots who stick with the Flash and Rapier classes almost exclusively.

Venom on the other hand... if you get hit with rocket in a race with a semi-competent pilot it's pretty much all over.

I disagree with the Wipeout HD in game guide, Rapier and Flash can be for professionals too :+

[blackwiggle]

Rapier & Flash are just as hotly contested as elite phantom.

Just as easy to screw up as well, as the timing for each needed action is different for each class.
I've lost count of the number of times I've gone online into a flash or rapier race after doing some phantom SL & TT's and have been either turning or applying air brakes too early.:paperbag

[BlackStar]

I haven't played online very much, but my experiences for phantom are as follows :

3 - 2 - 1 - GO!
- Left
- Left
- Left
- Me and two other people overtake someone (lap)
The others finish 30 seconds after we finished. Then they leave the lobby.

:twisted

[PSMuF]

After playing so much Phantom to get the trophies, it just feels wrong playing something else. I've tried several times going for a lower speed class, and then realise its just so... slow...
Then again, I feel like I'm crawling along the track even in Phantom when I somehow play another craft than Piranha. Got too used to it I guess...

Phantom is definitely the only speed class you'll ever see me play online :P

[Amorbis]

There are times when there are no public Phantom games going, which can be annoying. If that is the case I'll go onto speed lap or time trial and check every so often to see if a game is available. The main thing that means that there are less Phantom games is that most people who were playing it a few months ago don't any more, so there isn't that much we can do about it.

If I'm ever online I will join a Phantom game, but that isn't as often as it used to be.

[Aeroracer]

problem with phantom is that i find if you havnt played for a while you really get rubbish at it.where the other speed classes you can jump right back in and the loss of skill is not as noticible.
i have not played wipeout for quite some time.i would have severe trouble competing in phantom.wbut on the slower speeds i would be able to give a decent race and my oss of skill would not be so obvious and evident.
well thats how i see it.:nod

[Dark_Phantom_89]

I never seem to have trouble finding a phantom race online. In fact it's very rare when I don't find one

[yeldar2097]

There are times when there are no public Phantom games going, which can be annoying. If that is the case I'll go onto speed lap or time trial and check every so often to see if a game is available. The main thing that means that there are less Phantom games is that most people who were playing it a few months ago don't any more, so there isn't that much we can do about it.

If I'm ever online I will join a Phantom game, but that isn't as often as it used to be.

ditto

[Dark_Phantom_89]

There's always Avalon... :D

[NightArh]

now I know who is good pilot xTHORGODx :) we had nice races few days ago inspite of my sad piloting xD

[Dark_Phantom_89]

I always seem to bump into XTHORGODX online - we always have some nice races :)

[blackwiggle]

I think that once you have got to the stage where you have played a lot of phantom online,got about as good as your even going to get in TT & SL's and finished all the trophies, it's inevitable that you are going to give the game away, for a while at least.

The reason for this could most likely be the slow rate of new DLC,well it has been for me.
Fury didn't really do it for me I'm sorry to say,after waiting for 9 months then only getting 4 tracks that I consider wipeout [I don't consider Detonator,Zone Battle and Zone proper wipeout,these portions of the game have a virtual thick layer of dust on them in my console],and to tell the truth,apart from Tech De Ra I didn't like the tracks we got.

Maybe if SL took a different approach to DLC.
Like bringing our smaller,but more frequent DLC you wouldn't have so many people leaving, then "possibly" returning again .
HD/FURY has lost around 30-40 top phantom pilots in the last few months which is a bit of a worry,I know this because most of them are on my friends list.

[yeldar2097]

I think the proverbial nail just got smacked in the face, big time.
I'm with bw :)

[MrSmadSmartAlex]

I'm really surprised to read this - I'd assumed HD online was still really busy. I was considering getting on HD so I could race online a little more, but I think I'll stick with Pulse after reading this thread - there's Phantom races every Sunday night at least.

[blackwiggle]

Don't get me wrong,the boards can still be full,and quite a few of what's up on the boards will be Phantom races,but nowhere near what one might expect, mainly due to the reasons I gave in my previous post.

It seems most online races are Flash/Venom eliminators,and I hardly ever see a zone battle race on the boards,so I consider that racing mode a fail due to lack of interest.

It seems dependent on which days and at what time you go online more than anything else,especially since most Phantom pilots are Euro based.

[Lightlord]

Bear in mind Modern Warfare 2 has come out and a fair number of players are playing that more than anything else right now its a busy time of year for good games to come out as well, big releases tends to mean more time taken up with them instead of the tried and tested game we know and love.

[Sausehuhn]

And the whole lobby is a pilot-assist-paradise. I find it simply annoying that most of the races are dominated by pilot assist and weapon hints.

Especially on Eliminator. Isn't Eliminator all about destroying?

Anyway. Phantom races are rare, signed. And I rather leave the online lobby than join a race with pilot assist on, no matter which speed classes the other races consist of.
Then, ironically, if you join a Phantom race with pilot assist off, they're often really nearly completely filled with 6 to 8 players. I'm wondering why they do not join when one hosts a Phantom race himself, though …

[ACE-FLO]

Whats all this noise about no Phantom races online? What a load of CRAP!

Last night I was racing Phantom races with Zoners and non-Zoners! Y'all talking wet!

SMAD - The HD servers are packed with races, and one in 4 to 6 hosted rooms are Phantom, on average, and usually about 12 rooms open at least, ... People, wanna play phantom? I'll get a royal pasting, but I'm up for Phantom :)

[crawdad62]

I saw Rezatron hosting some Phantom races last night. I was going to join but I got into a 12 race tournament while waiting around and never got to. I was going to join his Phantom races because they were PA off. I never join a Phantom race with it on. People in those races are all over the place lots of the time. If the Phantom races are on the Fury tracks I will shun them regardless. For whatever reason I just don't have them down. I've raced them just as much as the HD tracks but I don't have them. I can visualize every HD track just by name but when I race on a Fury track I see the name and don't have a clue until I see it come up on the screen which one it is. But I digress...

It's sort of weird when I'm on. Sometimes there's nothing but Phantom. Sometimes there's mostly Venom races. I don't think I've seen more than a couple of Zone Battles the whole time it's been available.

[bik3rluke]

It's only me on xTHORGODx on Saturday evenings. Me and my step-dad normally take it in turns. "YAY UBERMALL... GIMME CONTROLLER!" :twisted

[il_mago_di_Doz]

I play often in the evening and I can say that from 10pm to 1am (GMT+1) there are always some good phantom racers online! Zoners or not Zoners, I encounter many great pilots every time I play. And if I host some races with a friend, the room fills itself in almost 5 races.

Go phantom pilots! :rock

[Connavar]

Just tell me when you want to play, and we'll be at least 2!

[BlackStar]

Throw me in the mix :) Currently lacking skill on phantom since all I do is Zone mode (I have a secret demonstration for a LAN-Party, for 25 people, they will never know what hit them) but I'll race!

[DeepMix]

its a shame when you want to play theres no one to play online with :( but still at some hours you can find really good racers.

[ACE-FLO]

I'll be on tonight, midnight GMT, maybe a lil later (latest I'll start racing is 1am GMT)

If there's no phantom rooms open, I'll create one with PA off we'll roll.

Last night I had a bloomin' awesome session with Zoners - who imo, rule the online MP races with just sooooo much feroctiy, and skill...

...one day, I hope to be a part of that club. Right now, I'm still adjusting to my AirBrakes lol.

Big up's to Luna BGD, NightArh, Rezatron, IDReaper, O_BR, il_mago_di_Doz, Kyonshi and other zoners (my brain can't remember who else, but y'all are cool peeps for racing with me) :)

With peace for now, and with Fury for later tonight - ACE-FLO

[O_BR]

^^Me! ;)

Had terrible luck the whole tournament last night. The double quake elimination and minesafter that on Moa Therma induced a lot of yelling at the tv! :lol

[Hellfire_WZ]

I'll be on later tonight too, hopefully my connection will cooperate ;)

[ACE-FLO]

AW DAMMIT - couldn't do tonight, everything went tits up and schitt! anyway...

Yes - O_BR, blooomin' heck, when you joined, things went from difficult, to very difficult for me. you're very quick, dammit :)

Should be around for a few races, tomorrow.

[IDReaper]

You guys can expect to see me hosting a few phantom races in the coming days. Finals week is over and I've got time to kill :) Come help me train my EG-X if you see my rooms. Yeah man O_BR was fasts, and il_mago_di_Doz as per usual. I agree with most people here saying that during certain hours phantom is very active. Early mornings till around 10am and about 3-6 in my timezone are when I find an absence of phantom rooms. Mid-day my European buddies are on and late my NA guys are on.

[ACE-FLO]

you're a bloody maniac on track too, IDReaper :) I'll join your rooms, if only to discover i've opened up a can of "WHOOP ASS" on myself, it'll still be worth the lesson. :)

[Dark_Phantom_89]

Had some great races with some of the Italian zoners last night - Not a very good tournament though, I kept getting hit left right and centre. All in the name of Wipeout, eh?

[afuroKy]

hello guys,

I think Im not wrong when I say that Phantom is the class of the "hardcore" or such gamers.
It requires some time to adapt. And most of the players don't make the effort.

There are moments where I cannot find any phantom races. But most of the time there is at least 1 phantom class lobby when I want to play.
Full of 50-60 ranks lol but I love it.

Its obvious that most of WO players play Eliminator or venom/flash races.

We are the weird ones! AG freaks!

[ACE-FLO]

Afuroky - Welcome here, my friend. We've faced for a few weeks now, I think.

Another faaaast pilot, enters the zone. Things are looking goooda! So gouda, eh? :)

AG FREAKS - that's Zoners in a nutshell lol, good observation man! ;)

[PSMuF]

Come on, you all know Phantom is the only real way to play the game :P
High speed, lots of concentration needed, good racelines are incredibly rewarding, and it just looks a lot cooler to zoom through the tracks at Phantom speed!
And you get to meet great pilots too! I finally got to try a race against Dark Phantom lately! Crushed me easy, but it was still fun!

[il_mago_di_Doz]

I play mainly phantom becouse I think it's more fun, but I know tons of flash/rapier pilots that are just incredibly skilled. Phantom is my favourite class to play... but it's definetly not the only way to play wohd ;)

[ACE-FLO]

I didn't sleep last night. Well, I couldn't! I had no meds so stayed up watching repeats of TV shows from the PS3's BBC I-Player (it rocks), and then, at like 6:30am (GMT) I decided I wanted to play HD FURY online, so went online...

I gotta apologise for my crappy racing performance, I was making silly, really silly mistakes lol. I guess I was tired. ANyway, before I knew it, it was 7:45am and I had to leave the house (work)... anyway, I havent slept at all, am on Berocca and Red Bulls, I feel like a bag of crisps, crushed under an elephants foot. The taste in mouth can only be described as acrid... I need to eat too dammit. Grrrrrr - No meds and I turn into a bloody mess!

I'll be online later tonight, but dunno if I'll be up for long... let's see!

Ace-Freak ;)

[RedScar]

Well I brushed some of the rust off today, played in a pretty near full phantom race for a good 1:30. Won 2, ran mid pack most of the time.

[il_mago_di_Doz]

Grrrrrrrrrrrrreat races yesterday with Ace3cube & whatevermann... two very very very fast pilots, hope to race you again soon! :beer

[DividedXZero]

Yeah i had a few races last night, I couldnt keep up with you

[Connavar]

What's up DXZ, let's play some :)
Checking tonight, there seems to be some Phantom activity

[il_mago_di_Doz]

Great races tonight with barnster, emwu and spec-r99. I did really enjoy running with you guys! :pizza

[RedScar]

GG Connavar, that 20 lapper was fun.