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Dark_Phantom_89
13th September 2009, 04:03 PM
The SL Challenge is closed indefinitely as of 27th March 2011. Taken from the final post:

And so here we are - the end of the SL Challenge. It's been a fantastic 80 weeks and I would like to thank each and every one of you who participated, especially the regulars. I hope that this challenge helped you to experience new styles of racing as well as improve your skills. Maybe even a PB or two? I never thought we would get this far and it has been an absolute pleasure running this challenge. Once again, a massive thank you to everybody - it wouldn't have lasted without you guys. I hope that we can all keep a bit of WipEout HD in our hearts, even if some of us are starting to, or have, moved on.

I'm going to ask Saturn to close this now.

Dark_Phantom_89
13th September 2009, 04:04 PM
The SL Challenge is closed indefinitely as of 27th March 2011.

Speed Lap Challenge Participant Hall of Fame

KGB1971 | 49
yeldar2097 | 48
amplificated | 44
leungbok | 44
Challenger #001 | 35
brainbeat | 32
phaeton_pl | 32
Mietepiet | 22
triboy | 19
Woopzilla | 19
AG-Wolf | 18
jasmin-jade | 18
Rezatron | 16
DreamyElf | 16
QjonPL | 16
Mr Phlanj | 15
Jav | 15
osama bin haydn | 14
guillaume | 11
Nutcase:259 | 9
MENGKESHI | 9
XBARNSTERX | 8
SaturnReturn | 8
Wotan | 7
kanar | 7
Medusa | 7
Temet | 6
Deathjester87 | 5
blackwiggle | 4
IDReaper | 4
JJPAP | 4
LurifaxFlux | 4
TarquinFarqhuar | 4
kaori | 3
ACE-FLO | 3
xtriko | 3
klocki LEGO | 3
dirtywaffle | 3
F.E.I.S.A.R | 3
erich123 | 3
JFthebestJan | 3
Tiduch | 3
RobCoxy | 2
breadhead | 2
JaLK | 2
DeepMix | 2
Asayyeah | 2
fantmusik | 2
Unctuous | 2
miizu3 | 2
P_Denton | 2
novide | 2
Oryx Crake | 2
shapealot | 1
PSMuF | 1
tug_14 | 1
stin | 1
TearsToShreds | 1
Danterich | 1
wich | 1
Luxoflux | 1
ShawnFrecle | 1
Wreckedge | 1
ZixXer | 1
gordo1974 | 1
smiggy | 1
Whizzer-Hawk | 1
TwitchySpitfire | 1
Connavar | 1
Reezy | 1

XBARNSTERX
13th September 2009, 06:57 PM
I'd be up for this. but my time is bsb and i dont think i could better it. my top 5 times are all icaras so if i could get ag in with them, then i'll post a pic.

idea, i'll create a new user profile where i can set new times. if this is ok , i dont see why not though:)

great idea mate:nod

Edit, how many pads did you hit mate?

Mietepiet
13th September 2009, 08:02 PM
You can also send in a pic of your ghost ship data, or raceresults after the session. Like this:

24:67 - 8pads - Fury
1190 1191

Dark_Phantom_89
13th September 2009, 08:12 PM
XBARNSTERX - Yep, as long as you use the correct track, speed class and ship, that's fine :)

Oh, and I hit 11 speed pads - sorry, the pic doesn't show it

XBARNSTERX
13th September 2009, 09:01 PM
1192

Qualities not great, 24.05, 10 pads, 4 BRs.

Missed a possible 3 BRs too.

amplificated
13th September 2009, 09:08 PM
Doubt I'd need to post pics, as the best I can do so far is only 25.07 with the Fury AG-S. So annoying when you know you can do better but you keep on stuffing one little section up... just wasted like 30 laps by not getting a BR on the first corner. I think I'm missing a place where you guys are getting a 3rd BR or something... ah well, may give it another try later after I've had some sleep. I'd like to break 25.

edit, @xbarnsterx
You can get... a possible 7 BRs? I only know how to do 2 per lap. /fail

XBARNSTERX
13th September 2009, 09:15 PM
@Amp, you can get three Brs at the start. Two off the hills and one over the gap, theres your third.:) 4th the other gap, after the first gap you can get two along the straight with the boost(not much quicker), the last is on the two pads at the end of the lap, difficult to do. My lap has the three at the start and one down the straight with the boost.

Hope this helps:beer

Edit...Tip , try side shifting for the BR over the first gap

amplificated
13th September 2009, 09:20 PM
thanks, I'll look into that! I've never been able to do a BR over the gaps on the reverse Vineta K before; I'll need to work on my pitch a little more I think. :beer

yeldar2097
13th September 2009, 09:30 PM
23.61 - 8 pads - 4 BRs

XBARNSTERX
13th September 2009, 09:54 PM
1194

23.55, 10 pads, 4 BRs.

I give you 5 mins to beat that Yeldar mate. Cause thats all it will take you anyways:beer

Edit, i need a better cam, :)

yeldar2097
13th September 2009, 09:58 PM
I did mine a while back, dunno if i can be arsed...

**** it, migt as well

Mietepiet
14th September 2009, 05:08 PM
Doubt I'd need to post pics, as the best I can do so far is only 25.07 with the Fury AG-S.

Just post your times, I'll will be a nice benchmark for other players.
Cause not everybody :rock's like XBARNSTERX or yeldar2097!!!

At the end we're all improving our times and skills

yeldar2097
15th September 2009, 02:43 AM
Did this a while ago but I lost the adapter for my phone card: 23.37 - 5 BRs

amplificated
15th September 2009, 04:42 AM
Just post your times, I'll will be a nice benchmark for other players.
Cause not everybody :rock's like XBARNSTERX or yeldar2097!!!

At the end we're all improving our times and skills

Alright, I'll upload what I have now. I'll try and beat this time when I get a chance later today or tonight though.

Dark_Phantom_89
15th September 2009, 01:04 PM
*Leaderboard updated* Come on everyone, keep those times coming! Just post what you can for now, as you can always post again if you beat your time.

RobCoxy
15th September 2009, 09:31 PM
Do we REALLY have to use AG-SYS to take part lol :(...?

Dark_Phantom_89
15th September 2009, 09:36 PM
RobCoxy - Sorry, but for this week you do. The ship will be different next week though :)

Mietepiet
17th September 2009, 04:00 PM
24:38 4br 8pads
1223

RobCoxy
17th September 2009, 06:28 PM
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6500/011ig.jpg http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/4734/017in.jpg

Yeah, i'm not used to the posting pics thing lol ;). And sorry about the phone camera :!. There should be the evidence for ag-systems and the time there. If you're unhappy just check the leaderboard (if it updates ;)).

I had a quick 99 lap run and came out with a 23.82 (3 BR's 10 pads). If i get any time over the weekend i'll improve it but it's not a bad time :).

Dark_Phantom_89
20th September 2009, 06:18 PM
Week 1 of the Speed Lap Challenge has now finished, and Week 2 has started. A big thank you to everyone who participated :)

A reminder - the criteria for this week are as follows: SPEED LAP/METROPIA (REVERSE)/RAPIER/QIREX

RobCoxy
21st September 2009, 05:40 PM
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/7061/014y.jpg http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9896/010cen.jpg

22.28 (2 BR's, 12 Pads, Qirex Fury). Again, sorry for the quality of the camera, there should be enough evidence of the ship etc and the time.

P.S.- I tried it with Icaras right after, and after about 30-40 laps got a 22.08 (#3) :). May go for the record if i have a chance over the week...*looks at yeldar* ;).

yeldar2097
21st September 2009, 06:25 PM
:g
might try tonight

yeldar2097
22nd September 2009, 02:41 AM
22.09 - 11 pads - 2 BRs - easily beatable I reckon
Will post a pic later on when my phone has charged...

Mietepiet
22nd September 2009, 07:57 AM
Nice start @ 23:14 - 2br - 10pads - Qirex Fury

1274

amplificated
22nd September 2009, 07:04 PM
Just did like 200 laps to come up with 22.89... could possibly clean it up a little but I don't quite know how to go much faster than this here.

Dark_Phantom_89
22nd September 2009, 10:22 PM
Here's my time so far. However, I think I may be able to improve it.

22.76, 2 BR's, 11 Speed Pads

*Week 2 leaderboard updated*

Mietepiet
25th September 2009, 07:38 PM
set me a nice marker with icaras to lower my time

22:69 - 2br - 11pads
1293

Dark_Phantom_89
25th September 2009, 10:54 PM
Good work on the Qirex time Mietepiet! Come on guys, just post whatever you can!

Dark_Phantom_89
27th September 2009, 06:22 PM
Week 2 of the Speed Lap Challenge has now finished. A big thank you to all that participated :)

Week 3 has now begun. A reminder - the criteria for this week are as follows: SPEED LAP/CHENGHOU PROJECT (FORWARD)/VENOM/EG-X

Anybody can participate by posting their times

yeldar2097
28th September 2009, 09:21 PM
30.88 - 9 pads - 8BRs - EG-X (Fury)

SaturnReturn
28th September 2009, 11:09 PM
32.39 - 9 pads - 5/6/7?BRs(I wasn't really paying that much attention) - EG-X (Fury)

I suck! But it's the taking part that counts, right? Right? :(

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b367/SitarHero/100_1058.jpg?t=1254179138

P.S. What's Venom? :P

yeldar2097
28th September 2009, 11:52 PM
lol, what's venom indeed :lol

amplificated
29th September 2009, 03:35 AM
I guess you guys get such good times by getting multiple barrel rolls off at the start... and while I've done it a few times, I can't consistently do that nose-tip thing which looks necessary to do those BR's on chenghou, anyone have some tips for me to get the timing right? :(

ATM I've only got 33.67; the fact that I'm three seconds off the pace is unsettling =P

Mietepiet
29th September 2009, 07:13 AM
Me 2, I can use a little help. Got something like 34:64 on my first 100 laps, but missed one 1 of my 4 possible br's.

yeldar2097
29th September 2009, 10:46 AM
I'll do a video for people, k?

Any excuse to make a vid is a good one ;)

XBARNSTERX
29th September 2009, 11:24 AM
I've done a br vid at flash on youtube, still be helpful for venom though.
Doesnt show the start mind, just what barrels you should do without the boost

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKaAC82755w

I'll post my time later, along with metropia. I know its late just didnt get round to posting it.
Doesnt beat Yeldars mind, great time in a qirex :beer

amplificated
29th September 2009, 12:32 PM
:cowboy More than half of those BR's I've never done before, probably; especially the ones that require a sideshift! I only recently started using ss actually, so hopefully I've developed enough to try and implement some of those :P

Thanks

Dark_Phantom_89
29th September 2009, 10:09 PM
Here's my time so far: 33.78, 4BR's, EG-X FURY
Can definitely be improved, so may post again when I beat it.

SaturnReturn - you don't suck, I can't even get a time like yours :)

SaturnReturn
29th September 2009, 10:24 PM
When does the challenge finish, i.e. how long do I have to find out what yeldar did and copy him?:pirate

I did find one method of doing as many barrel rolls as yeldar, but I'm sure it can't possibly be as fast - based on my limited Phantom knowledge.

yeldar2097
29th September 2009, 10:31 PM
Fastest Phantom (that i know of): 4-5 BRs
Fastest Venom (ditto): 8 BRs

For a given amount of airtime at venom speed you wouldn't travel as far as you would at phantom speed if you'd stayed on the track so the boost gained relative to the distance that would otherwise have been covered is much greater at venom speed.
something like that...making vid now - will post here when it's uploaded.

Dark_Phantom_89
29th September 2009, 10:45 PM
When does the challenge finish, i.e. how long do I have to find out what yeldar did and copy him?:pirate

I did find one method of doing as many barrel rolls as yeldar, but I'm sure it can't possibly be as fast - based on my limited Phantom knowledge.

The challenges each last 1 week, so this one will finish at 7.15pm on Sunday :)

yeldar2097
29th September 2009, 11:21 PM
captured a 30.57 (PB :g ) on video...uploading now :)

EDIT: 30.57 - some pads... - 8 BRs (http://www.youtube.com/watch_private?v=6khdbhrqoWk&sharing_token=LV-VHGfOONH7eeeStaHifQ==)

not actually sure if the 6th one is worth it...will check

Dark_Phantom_89
30th September 2009, 09:19 AM
Great job yeldar, I don't know how you do those barrel rolls when sideshifting to the left - my fingers get confused and I mess it up! I can barrel roll if I shift to the right, but not left :(

leungbok
30th September 2009, 09:24 AM
Nice lap, Yeldar ! For the 6th br, i gave up doing it, it's seems slower than hitting the left speedpad, even at venom speed ;)

XBARNSTERX
30th September 2009, 11:20 AM
What leungbok said. You gain too much air, its best just to hit the pads.
You can 3 BRs at the start too which is quicker .Pitch up down at the start line.
Great vid though mate:D

yeldar2097
30th September 2009, 11:31 AM
I think I'll leave it at 30.57 for now...speed lap in EG-X is confusing ;)

leungbok
30th September 2009, 02:57 PM
@Yeldar & Xbarnsternx, as br addicts, another challenge inside the challenge, mates ! :D It's possible to do 12 br in one lap on chengou project at venom speed (maybe flash, didn't tried). I've no time to record a video actually, due to my worktime :(
But you both (and shapealot, phaeton and maybe some other crazy pilots) are skilled enough to pull them all ! :)
Not sure that a 12 br per lap is faster than 9, but it can makes an amazing and entertaining video :hyper
A clue : "bouncing" ;)

yeldar2097
30th September 2009, 06:01 PM
bouncing on the left hander? :P

a BR challenge? interesting idea :g

Dark_Phantom_89
30th September 2009, 08:46 PM
I've come to the conclusion that the barrel rolls pulled off by yeldar are impossible for me, so I'll be sticking to my 33.78 time by the looks of things.

Mietepiet
30th September 2009, 08:57 PM
@Barnster&Yeldar: Thanks for those videos :+
I got some (=actually A LOT) homework to do :D

SaturnReturn
30th September 2009, 09:26 PM
31.70 - 8 pads - 5BRs - EG-X (Fury) [13 laps :robot]

Will post proof at the end if I don't improve again. :)

leungbok
30th September 2009, 09:29 PM
bouncing on the left hander? :P

hé hé, Bien vu ! ;)

SaturnReturn
30th September 2009, 09:33 PM
At one point I did 4 BRs on the left hander. It was in no way intentional - I just lost control a bit. But I had a really bad start and it almost caught me straight up to my ghost. With those I can just about see how 12 is possible, but can't help but think I might still be missing out on something. Ever done 13 leungbok?

leungbok
30th September 2009, 09:56 PM
Not in one lap yet mate ^^ I've already done 11 with uggly lines and some wall hits ! I don't spend sufficient time on venom/flash speed, but sometimes for fun i try a lot of tricks on those speedclasses on hd & fury tracks. For what i have experienced on chengou at venom speed, the fastest lap must be done with 10 br (the 3 others are fun but you can't do them with the best lines and you sometimes miss some faster speedpads).
I did my current laptime on chengou venom with 7 br, using bsb. But i tried a simple boost/br at the start (like Yeldar on his vid), with 2 brs using the bouncing before the left hairpin and it's faster than bsb ;). For the left hander, some brs (3 or 4) are faster if you can stay low (nose down after the first br).
With 10 brs, sub 30.00 is reachable :D
For the 12 or 13 : Boost/br at the start, 2 other brs using the bouncing before the left hairpin, 1 br on each platform, left sideshift when you land to perform a first br on the left hander, 2 or 3 other br until the tunnel, br using the little wall, br using the bump with a right sideshift, br at the big jump, when you land target the right pad and boost, br in the last chicane using the speed of the boost (it's seems slower than the "Fbj's classic" mid-air boost/br at the big jump however ;)).
If i find some time one day i'll try to record a video, except if another crazy spinner do it before !

XBARNSTERX
30th September 2009, 10:39 PM
30.16, 8 BRs, 10 pads :D

1303

I think with icaras+ you'll get sub 30 with only 8 BRs, easy peasy :)

Dark_Phantom_89
1st October 2009, 08:46 AM
Lol, 12 BR's?! I struggle to do 5!

*Leaderboard updated*

Mietepiet
1st October 2009, 06:12 PM
Hey guys, I was thinking: If I accidently drop a beer bottle on the track, can you BR on it?

My best lap so far:
start+BR - BR over hill - going straight into the hairpin wall - 2brs on jump - flying all over the lefthander (since I use pitch for the 1st time) - br at end of righthander - br on jump.

which gave me a 38sec 6br lap :D

leungbok
1st October 2009, 06:48 PM
A work meeting was reported, so i found time to do a video of br on chengou venom :)
Invalid time however (i used icaras) ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzxBvHYn7j8 (sorry for the quality)

yeldar2097
1st October 2009, 07:28 PM
Funky music :+
sounds a bit like Daft Punk... :D
Great vid leungBRbok :clap

Connavar
2nd October 2009, 09:35 AM
Wow great BRs at the left curve, I did some of them accidently, but now I see
it helps A LOT! Great lap, still a lot of margin :)

leungbok
2nd October 2009, 10:06 AM
Yes, mate, The triple br at the start is fast and the triple on the left curve can be done far more cleanly than on my vid ! ;)
I think 29.5X possible !

XBARNSTERX
2nd October 2009, 01:56 PM
Excellent vid leungbok, lots of Brs an so clean too.
I believe thats another bsb that beens beaten:P
An they said it couldnt be done:D

leungbok
2nd October 2009, 02:38 PM
Yeah, they don't trust us mate ! But they'll see ;)

RobCoxy
2nd October 2009, 05:04 PM
How do you do all these BR's! :clap

Mietepiet
2nd October 2009, 06:36 PM
Thanks for all those video's an tips guys:+, won almost 2secs with it:
32.89 - 5br - 10 pads
1304
@Leungbok: plz use eg-x for one lap 2 kick me away :clap

Dark_Phantom_89
2nd October 2009, 09:17 PM
Only a slight improvement on my previous time: 33.31, 4BR's (nearly 5 :() 9 speed pads

Dark_Phantom_89
4th October 2009, 06:26 PM
Week 3's Speed Lap Challenge has now finished, and Week 4 has begun. A big thank you to everyone who participated, and congratulations to XBARNSTERX, Week 3's Speed Lap Champion! :)

A reminder: The criteria for this week's challenge are as follows: SPEED LAP/ANULPHA PASS (FORWARD)/PHANTOM/FEISAR

Good luck to everyone :)

yeldar2097
4th October 2009, 07:08 PM
Phantom!! Yes!! :g

Just a quickie: 20.42 - 12 pads - 5BRs - Feisar+

Mietepiet
6th October 2009, 07:41 AM
21.06 - 12pads - 4br - feisar+
1316

Dark_Phantom_89
6th October 2009, 08:32 AM
Nice work Mietepiet, you're 0.05 seconds ahead of me! I'll post my time when I get home later on.

Mietepiet
6th October 2009, 08:45 AM
Thanx, not much room for improvement on my time, unless I make friends with mr. BR 5.

Dark_Phantom_89
6th October 2009, 08:08 PM
My time: 21.11, 4BR's, 11 Speed Pads

breadhead
7th October 2009, 07:26 AM
I've managed a 20.98, 4 BR, not sure how many speed pads.
Well chuffed to have broken 21 seconds!

Unless I can better it i'll post a pic another time.

Dark_Phantom_89
7th October 2009, 10:56 AM
I've managed a 20.98, 4 BR, not sure how many speed pads.
Well chuffed to have broken 21 seconds!

Unless I can better it i'll post a pic another time.

Great work breadhead, I'll put you on the leaderboard, remember to post a pic just in case though :)

yeldar2097
7th October 2009, 11:59 AM
I reckon even without the 6th BR I might be able to beat my Icarus ghost...

I don't know about you guys but I'd find it hilarious :lol

Mietepiet
8th October 2009, 07:29 AM
PHOTO FINISH :D

20.96 - 14pads - 4br
1336

@Yeldar: it is hilarious :hyper
What are your motion control settings? Think it's essential for mr. BR5.
Cause this time I wanna give your time a serious beating ;)

Dark_Phantom_89
8th October 2009, 08:22 AM
Just as I post a better time, Mietepiet goes and beats it! :eek I'm determined to beat you this week, as you've beaten me for the past 3 weeks!

21.01, 4BR's 12 SP

breadhead
8th October 2009, 08:29 AM
PHOTO FINISH :D

20.96 - 14pads - 4br


Oh man, I am not sure I can improve on my time at all.. good work mate.

Somehow I managed to pull off that barrel roll after the tunnel once by complete accident, can't seem to do it again though!

Mietepiet
8th October 2009, 10:27 AM
Managed to pull it off from bouncing off the fence, but that's not faster :(
Still can do some minor improvements on my time without it, but really want to be able to pull off that fifth one, so that's what i'm practising now.

breadhead
8th October 2009, 10:51 AM
Ok I'm starting to get the hang of that 5th BR but pulling it in the same lap as the one on to the bridge is proving difficult!
Managed it one lap and then missed the BR off the overpass, which you would think is almost impossible!

Finally strung it all together and got a 20.65 :D Pictures to come later.

It did come at a cost though, it logged it as PLAYER record instead of my PSN id and now my WipEout HD seems to have become corrupted. Just won't load :mad:

Re-downloading now:-

Mietepiet
8th October 2009, 12:25 PM
Don't redown, the servers are down at the moment

and great job on the time :D

breadhead
8th October 2009, 01:07 PM
Yeah, realised after i'd re-downloaded :(

breadhead
8th October 2009, 04:43 PM
OOh, new working leaderboards mean I can see Mietepets and Dark Phantom's times :) But not Yeldar's presumably because his Icarus time is higher.

yeldar2097
8th October 2009, 04:47 PM
guilty ;)

I reckon I could have that dirty Icarus' time though :lol

Dark_Phantom_89
9th October 2009, 06:29 PM
20.94, 4 BR's, 11 Speed Pads. Will I actually beat Mietepiet this week? :D

Picture to come later when my phone has charged

EDIT: Picture

yeldar2097
9th October 2009, 07:31 PM
got 20.35 a while back, will post a piccy if i don't beat it :g

Mietepiet
10th October 2009, 02:13 PM
I'm sorry mate, just had a couple of :beer's with Mr. BR5
20.76 - 5BR - 14pads
1339

@Yelder: HERE I COME :D

thinking:"how on earth do I improve 0.50 secs:eek:eek"

yeldar2097
10th October 2009, 02:48 PM
it's all in the lines :)

I've found that the boostBR and where you land actually makes a huge difference - can make/break your lap :)

Mietepiet
10th October 2009, 02:52 PM
Yeah, noticed that with my 20.96 ghost, was always comming ahead after that boost BR

Dark_Phantom_89
10th October 2009, 06:12 PM
Damn, thought I was actually going to beat you this week Mietepiet. Guess I was kidding myself! I really need to get to know Mr BR5...

breadhead
11th October 2009, 01:32 PM
Ok, I think it would take me about 5000 more laps to better this time. I am so inconsistent.

20.65 5BR 13 Speed Pads

Dark_Phantom_89
11th October 2009, 06:15 PM
Week 4's Speed Lap Challenge has come to an end, and Week 5 is now in progress. Reclaiming his throne as the Speed Lap Champion this week is yeldar2097 :)

A reminder: The criteria for this week are as follows: SPEED LAP/MOA THERMA (FORWARD)/RAPIER/AURICOM

Seeing as the leaderboards are now up and working, if your highest personal time is using the appropriate ship, you may simply state "my time is xx.xx, see leaderboard for result

breadhead
13th October 2009, 01:16 PM
Anyone had a chance to have a go at this yet?

So far I've got 26.64 8pads, 2 BR.

It is my fastest time so should be on the leaderboard, but it doesn't seem to have updated yet. I think I can scratch a little bit off the time, but not much!

Dark_Phantom_89
13th October 2009, 07:08 PM
I've had a quick go at it, will post time a bit later on :)

amplificated
15th October 2009, 06:13 AM
Just had a session where I was raging pretty hard towards the end of - I just couldn't, for whatever reason, get that barrel roll on the final corner... for like 60/99 laps. Don't know what's wrong with me.

26.32, 1 BR, 9 speed pads, Auricom Fury

I think I could break 26 seconds if I could actually nail those stupid BR's. It's my pb so it should show on the leaderboards, if they update... still waiting for my #7 ranked time to show up for tdr< venom.

Dark_Phantom_89
15th October 2009, 08:44 AM
Only a 27.12 with 1 BR and 7SP's from me at the moment. Hopefully leaderboard will update

breadhead
17th October 2009, 12:36 PM
I have got it down to 25. something I can't remember exactly but it should be on the leaderboard.

Not at home this weekend so can't improve my time or check what it actually was! 8 pads and fury ship. 2 Barrel rolls.

yeldar2097
17th October 2009, 03:20 PM
so far: 25.49 - 8 pads

Dark_Phantom_89
17th October 2009, 04:35 PM
Ok guys, I'll check the leaderboard and update the times accordingly :)

yeldar2097
17th October 2009, 05:52 PM
not my fastest time so i'll take a pic/beat my pb :g

amplificated
18th October 2009, 02:05 PM
I'd like to have one last shot at this to break 26 before this week ends, but I just spent the last 9 1/2 hours at work, so it's doubtful I'm gonna be bothered :(

Dark_Phantom_89
18th October 2009, 06:19 PM
Week 5 has ended, and Week 6 has begun. A reminder: The criteria for this week are as follows: SPEED LAP/METROPIA (FORWARD)/PHANTOM/MIRAGE

Also those who participated last week, if the leaderboard doesn't update, would you be able to post a pic of your times? Many thanks :)

yeldar2097
19th October 2009, 12:30 PM
yeah i'll get a pic up as soon as i can. at work at the moment so i'll have to do it when i get home

XBARNSTERX
19th October 2009, 01:53 PM
Just had a quick run,
19.71 2BRs 9pds Mirage+
PB = 19.68
So i can better this, will post a pic when i do.:D
Edit, still can't barrel after the mag, but i've discovered you can double off the hill at the start an use your boost down the straight after the mag. Not as fast , but not far off.

amplificated
21st October 2009, 07:41 AM
My best is currently 19.92, 10 sp's with the Fury Mirage. I'd like to do better, but I keep on stuffing up whenever I do a section faster :(

I'll see if I can improve my time later. edit: Had another quick shot... 19.90, 9 sp's. yippee.

Dark_Phantom_89
21st October 2009, 01:11 PM
Only a 20.38 from me, 10 SP's. Will try to improve it though

yeldar2097
22nd October 2009, 10:19 PM
19.41 - 10 pads - 1 BR - Mirage+

*See leaderboard (beat my Icaras PB in 7 laps :D)

Dark_Phantom_89
25th October 2009, 10:15 PM
Week 7 begins now - a big thanks to all that participated :) A reminder - the critria for this week are: SPEED LAP/TECH DE RA (REVERSE)/FLASH/HARIMAU

KGB
25th October 2009, 10:41 PM
Can you use the Fury Version of the ship?

blackwiggle
25th October 2009, 10:58 PM
You would have to be able to because Tech De Ra is a FURY track.

KGB
26th October 2009, 12:29 AM
Ok had a go at this.

0.29.23 - 8 speed pads - 3 BRs

Still nearly a second down :mad:

brainbeat
26th October 2009, 01:38 AM
hi i just had a quick try,

0.29.01 8 speedpads 4 BRs ,

is your 3rd barrel roll on the last corner kgb or using lip, i have not managed last corner on any class yet lol

blackwiggle
26th October 2009, 05:44 AM
29.68 with 7 pads & 3 BR's .

I'm concentrating but my left thumb won't oblige .

Dark_Phantom_89
26th October 2009, 08:59 AM
Can you use the Fury Version of the ship?

Yep you can use the original or fury ships in your attempts

KGB
26th October 2009, 09:49 AM
My first BR is coming off the second lip on the left side I think, hit one Sp hit the lip, BR on to another Sp then boost up the hill and get 2 up there. Not sure if you can get one on that last corner, you can get height there but is it enough. Do you do 2 down the left side? can you hit all the lips? Lots of questions. :P

My thumb is wrecked by the way :-

yeldar2097
26th October 2009, 01:41 PM
Fastest way I've found is 6 BRs but I haven't tried to add one in on the last corner yet. will give it a go after work and let you know what i find...although the supreme extreme BR testing machine (:P) is leungbok so i won't claim to know all the BRs on this track :lol

story so far (all lips on the left btw :) )
1st lip BR
2nd mini-lip BR
3rd lip 2 BRs
2 up the hill with boost
maybe one on the last corner

:g

KGB
26th October 2009, 02:21 PM
6!! FFS.

Is this your No2 time, not sure if I can improve on mine?

What's a BR worth time wise in Flash anyway?

EDIT: 0.29.11 - 8 pads - 5 BRs. with a better line inbetween the downhill three I could get it under 29 secs I think/hope.

brainbeat
26th October 2009, 06:07 PM
just got 28.88 4BRs 8 Speedpads

I did from 1st to 3rd lip that time which is faster than 2nd to 3rd, just got to do all 3 lips i can see a new wr for some1, I managed to get 28.96 with only 3 brs and one was an attempt so i lost time trying,
To yelda to get the 2 brs on 3rd lip do you pitch nose up so u bounce (if that makes sense), and i take it you need velocity from 2 other lips, Well im going to get chilled and have another go,

Vartazian
26th October 2009, 09:50 PM
So when are you guys doin the Modesto Challenge? im down ;)

yeldar2097
26th October 2009, 10:24 PM
last :P

EDIT: New WR - 27.68 - 8 Pads - 5 BRs - Harimau+
See leaderboard

Couldn't string a decent 6BR lap together during my session but I reckon there's a 26.xx in there somewhere for someone to get :)

brainbeat
27th October 2009, 12:25 AM
nice work i can see .30 more for me at best lol, I did a 50 lapper before just to improve by only 0.08 lol. Not done it perfect yet, theres allways somewhere my ghost catches me up
, ive had perfect laps like,

amplificated
27th October 2009, 08:02 AM
Just had a quick run, 29.03, 3 BR's, 7 sp's with the Fury Harimau. Will post a better time when I get a chance; for some reason I was completely unable to get the BR that I usually find easiest to pull off with any consistency.

I've managed 4 BR's in the outdoor section... just not in the one lap :P Would be good if I could pull them off in one effort but it's a pretty tough ask. I can only do 2 with a little effort, usually.

Other than that section where you need to pull off a lot of hard BR's, the last corner is where I find it's possible to lose a lot of time.

KGB
27th October 2009, 09:52 AM
hi i just had a quick try,


I'll have another more concentrated effort at it later.


Just had a quick run

Is everyone not trying or what :D? I must have done about 100 laps at this and still can't get under 29 secs. I'll have a "quick go" later ;)

leungbok
27th October 2009, 10:06 AM
Lol. Maybe 200/300 laps are quick tries, who knows ? :lol
Nice Yeldar ! :)

amplificated
27th October 2009, 10:42 AM
lol, I had pretty much just gotten up and did 67 laps, and since I'm not happy with the time I'm just saying I'll try to do a bit better later :P

67 is probably pretty long for a quick try as well, but usually a decent effort for me is at least a full 99 lap set

yeldar2097
27th October 2009, 01:33 PM
Thanks leung, I don't think I'll be able to pull of any special LeungBRbokien mini-pseudo-wtfhowcanhedothat?!-oO-BRs though :lol

A quick try = 20 laps or less IMO. I tried for about 10-15mins after some INSANE races with elobot and erid7m so I was in the zone -they force you to concentrate VERY hard :P

@KGB: Where are you BR/SS'ing?

KGB
27th October 2009, 01:41 PM
On my fastest lap I hit the first, second, and forth lip, didn't need to SS to get BRs off any of them, and still really slow.

If you get time can you make a vid please big G, I'm missing some basic skills here, in life as well as HD. :D

yeldar2097
27th October 2009, 07:48 PM
hmm that's weird....i'll try to post a vid. if not tonight then tomorrow, k? :g

KGB
27th October 2009, 10:11 PM
My lines must be crap, Don't think I'm losing much time at the start or finish. No rush mate. Haven't had time to do the "Brief" 100 tonight.

yeldar2097
27th October 2009, 11:10 PM
God you don't half pressure a person do you?! I'm rushing I'm rushing!!!

Nah just kidding, I'm too laid-back and adolescent and cool to rush....Made the vid, will upload tomoz after work :+

tricolon = win

OBH
28th October 2009, 05:48 PM
dont know why i hadnt looked at this topic, looks good fun :)

28.58 (3rd overall) was the best i could do.

5brs, though not convinced im using my boost as well as it could be (though had great fun trying to ping myself over the little walls :g)

brainbeat
28th October 2009, 05:52 PM
well i got all 4 then hit tunnel arch, was on a blinder too, i managed all 4 lips a few times in practice now, but only managed to do in an attempt once, hopefully ill manage it, but i just done a 100 lap session with no improvement from last night,

newest time 0.28.61 7 sp 5 Brs

25 secs lol, did u do it on flash or rapier lol

new time 28.30 8 sl 5 brs
7brs is a possibility, theres 5 lips,

KGB
28th October 2009, 08:27 PM
New time after a quick go ;)

28.75 - 8 pads - 5 BR

I'm happy with that, No7 in the tables, had a bad start with the lap, but then 3 good brs down the hill got me past the ghost, so now I'm thinking I could get low 28 secs.

yeldar2097
28th October 2009, 11:28 PM
So you won't be needing that vid then? Good - my father left the camera I used at work on the "I love shite" :g

Rezatron
29th October 2009, 05:11 AM
Just my luck! This week's challenge is (was) my only #1 speed lap record. It was nice while it lasted (9 days or so...:P).

Had another go in the Harimau+ this time...

Result: 28.20 - 5BR (3 lip BRs, 2 hill BRs) - 9SP

At this point I could improve my time by a millisecond or so but these circus BRs are really trying my patience!

27.68?! :dizzy Yeldar, I want to see your vid. :hyper

KGB
29th October 2009, 08:44 AM
I'd still like to see it yeldar out of interest, if not, not a problem. :D

yeldar2097
29th October 2009, 08:56 AM
Yeah, will send an email reminding my father to bring back the camera :P

Dark_Phantom_89
29th October 2009, 09:46 AM
Wow, it's great to see lots of times from some new competitors - thanks guys :D

EDIT: 29.02 from me, just beat amplificated by 0.01 secs!

EDIT 2: Just noticed the leaderboard is now dominated by Harimau. Makes a nice change from Icarus :D

Mr Phlanj
29th October 2009, 10:05 AM
after 99 laps i got a 28.91 10th but i dont remember how many br/sp i got :P did fined a little shortcut but it dosnt make a diffrence (in fact i think its slower) at such slow speeds so i'll have to give it a go on phantom

KGB
29th October 2009, 10:26 AM
though not convinced im using my boost as well as it could be

Out of interest what's everyone doing with the boost. I'm waiting to the very top of the first brow then using it with pitch right up to get me further up the hill. Is it quicker to keep low but land lower down the slope.

amplificated
29th October 2009, 10:37 AM
EDIT: 29.02 from me, just beat amplificated by 0.01 secs!

Actually my current best is 28.55 (4 BR's, 8 sp's), I just hadn't posted it up here yet as I wanted to work on it a little more. You'll have to work a little harder to beat this time :P

I've managed to get all 6 BR's in one lap a couple of times, now I just need to work it into a run where I don't fall off at the start or something!

@ KGB: I use the turbo earlier, I think you get too much air time at the tip of the big hill which slows you down too much if you leave it late.

brainbeat
29th October 2009, 10:59 AM
kjb i have been doing that how you describe, but i think a bit earlier is better , i think u get more height, i've been trying to land on righthand side lip then a right ss on landing, seem to catch my ghost a bit like that, but if im ahead im just trying to land on track,

OBH
29th October 2009, 12:46 PM
what's everyone doing with the boost.
im not 100% certain what methods faster. the ones ive been trying are -

Use the boost as easrly as possible so you have minimum air-time at the top of the hill. The boost away feels sluggish at times but its easy to keep good lines.
wait till your going up for the final br, well not including the final corner, pitch down, turn right, and boost as low to the ground as you can round the corner but with a br. (same style of thinking as using the boost while dropping off the bridge on chenghou). Hard to stay tight to the corner, but i seem to make up huge amounts of ground on my ghost if pulled off well... shame the rest of the laps never as fast.
some other method - i tried boosting inbetween the gaps on the bridge, or into the little walls to ping myself over at speed. If the tunnel was just a bit shorter it could be effective but im not certain theres much scope for this at Flash, the jumps more useful on phantom.


Other than that im stumped, i think the tricks more to do with pitching down as you clip the walls for a br, and keeping your racing line tight to the left of the bridge as you nail them. You dont need to hit them so straight-on if you pitch down, and it keeps the craft very straight and level while mid-air. Im roughly 8 tenths slower than yeldar despite only 5 brs, a big wobble on the bridge, and popping much further into the air on the final bridge br than id have liked. Whichever method of boosting you use, as long as your not "hanging" in the air i imagine it wont make as much of a difference as your racing lines over the bridge.

You cant br on the 1st corner correct? I didnt even bother trying, i cant stand speed lap on tracks with a ridulous first corner youd just NEVER boost before.

blackwiggle
30th October 2009, 06:33 AM
Using the turbo later as you are almost over the hump seems the fastest to me.

Reason being that after the second BR ,if you just steer instead of using the air brakes/side shift ,you land in a lot better position and you should just be able to steer only around the last 3 bends.

I just can't nail more than 1 BR off the ramps,hence my relatively modest times.

PS: you might notice a few NON zone members HARIMAU craft up in the leaderboards,I've been messaging people individually and setting them the challenge.
I'll see how many others I can get by weeks end.

PPS: Yeldar ,how about sticking the GHOST of your SL up at Elhabib's site?

yeldar2097
30th October 2009, 08:52 AM
will do :+
vid up tonight, my father deleted the vid so i'll have to make a new one :(

blackwiggle
30th October 2009, 05:33 PM
Yelder,that's plain cocky saying things like that.

NOT in the spirit of "Let's be friends" which has got a lot of wipeoutzone old timers "off side".

KGB
30th October 2009, 06:13 PM
I asked him to make one Blackwiggle, so what's wrong with that?

KIGO1987
31st October 2009, 01:58 AM
Blackwiggle banned now, this is a joke.

leungbok
31st October 2009, 07:20 AM
A bad one !
I'll miss his jokes ! :frown:

Vartazian
31st October 2009, 08:06 AM
RIP: DD777, Blackwigle and Arch.

Dark_Phantom_89
31st October 2009, 02:09 PM
Wow, what's with all the banning all of a sudden? Just curious that's all.

And blackwiggle: If you read this, thanks for posting the challenge to the non-zoners, it's really appreciated :)

AG-wolf
31st October 2009, 03:04 PM
is TDR/Harimau still active? I can't get online with PS3/360 on my school's internet, so I don't have any leaderboard competition ;___;

Are these weekly? ie tomorrow is a new challenge?

Rezatron
31st October 2009, 03:55 PM
Yes this week's challenge is still a go and tomorrow is a new one. If you want an updated leaderboard to compare times go to the ranking site (http://wipeout-rankings.mooo.com/).

If you can't sync your time to the server just a snap a pic of your time and post it here.

Edit: I just did 28.07 (5 BRs and 9 SPs) after a "quick run" (20 laps). Improved my 28.20 ghost with better lines after the BR landing past the hill however the last of my three "lip" BRs is worse! I could better this but probably not 0.4s to get #1 ;)

Dark_Phantom_89
31st October 2009, 07:08 PM
Great work Rezatron! Your Top 4 spot for this week looks pretty secure :)

AG-wolf
31st October 2009, 09:01 PM
i'm at 30.13 with non-fury harimau and a few BRs.. not sure exactly how many, just BSing right now

edit: 29.86

edit2: 29.61

KGB
31st October 2009, 09:36 PM
I'll be glad when we do the next one, just can't face that first corner again. :D

brainbeat
1st November 2009, 12:30 AM
Try this in interior view lol, It is well hectic i managed 2 lips and almost felt sick xD (just did a lap 30.79 inside view) not bad for 1st attempt, we should have a bogus challenge lol,

1st corners not that bad just brake left for a teeny bit then righthand over the righthand side rails, i get it 2 in 3, the other time usaully overcut it and get respawned.

AG-wolf
1st November 2009, 02:17 AM
i still have 40 minutes if midnight is the cutoff :P

edit: now if I would actually turn my ps3 on, I could use soem of that time.

I wish I had noticed this thread earlier in the week, I guess I'll have to wait for the new course/speed/team for this coming week

Lance
1st November 2009, 02:31 AM
Wow, what's with all the banning all of a sudden? Just curious that's all.

When members have been warned for months, both publically and privately to stop being obnoxious to others, but they still keep doing it, it's going to eventually result in their being banned. It finally happened to these members.

amplificated
1st November 2009, 02:52 AM
My current best is 28.34, 5 BR, 8 sp's, and terrible, terrible racing lines towards the end.

Hopefully I'll get a chance to do a good run later today, but that will probably be my best time for this week's challenge.

leungbok
1st November 2009, 07:24 AM
When members have been warned for months, both publically and privately to stop being obnoxious to others, but they still keep doing it, it's going to eventually result in their being banned.

And the good stuff they eventually brought to the community don't count at all ?
In that case is it better to stay neutral ?
Reminds me "Gattaca" !

yeldar2097
1st November 2009, 04:57 PM
**** guys i'm sorry i haven't got that video up, been away this weekend, eek.

Do you guys still want it even though the comp is/will be over soon? :)

Lance
1st November 2009, 05:29 PM
And the good stuff they eventually brought to the community don't count at all ?
In that case is it better to stay neutral ?
Reminds me "Gattaca" !

Of course it counts, but it wasn't enough to counterbalance the bad stuff. The friendly and relaxed vibe that this forum used to have has been destroyed for too long by such behaviour as they exhibited.

Dark_Phantom_89
1st November 2009, 06:25 PM
Week 7 has come to an end, and what a week! Lots of new competitors posting some truly awesome times - thanks again for competing guys :) All of your times have been posted on the first page.

Week 8's criteria are as follows: SPEED LAP/MODESTO HEIGHTS (FORWARD)/RAPIER/TRIAKIS

kaori
1st November 2009, 08:02 PM
When members have been warned for months, both publically and privately to stop being obnoxious to others, but they still keep doing it, it's going to eventually result in their being banned. It finally happened to these members.

Of course it counts, but it wasn't enough to counterbalance the bad stuff. The friendly and relaxed vibe that this forum used to have has been destroyed for too long by such behaviour as they exhibited.

Sorry for my little english vocabulary, but I think you shouldn't forget who was at the source of the friendly vibe in this forum.

For me, the most part of last banned members have the real WipEout spirit, as past good times.

It's just my ideas, maybe they are false because I don't understand all the subtleties of the language of Shakespeare, but for me, those who have bad behaviour are some new members who land here, thinking they are better than old members, without respect, without listen to the famous members.

They land, and they ruin the entire hierarchy, existing relationships...

So in reaction, some "good" members could be offensive, but it's normal. In real life, if someone land, without competence, ability, experience, he must adopt its behaviour.

Old members should have some legitimacy, and if they are offensive, in a friendly and relaxed community, there is often a good reason, and the best people to sit that in judgment, they are the pioneers of this forum, because this forum have its history, its past, and nobody should ignore it.

Don't forget what is the WipEout spirit, and for new members, try to get it.

leungbok
1st November 2009, 08:23 PM
Totally off topic and totally true, mate ! ;)

silverfoxy
1st November 2009, 09:10 PM
Haven't felt the need to post for a long time.

But +1,000,000 for what Kaori said.

yeldar2097
2nd November 2009, 01:03 AM
I'll get the ball rolling this time around:
22.08 - 11 pads - 2BRs - Triakis+

I've got 2-3BRs left to get so hopefully I'll be able to beat my ghost (21.88 i think).

GOGOGOGOGOGOGO

@kao: :+

Rezatron
2nd November 2009, 01:40 AM
Had a quick go to see what I could do:

22.28 - 11 pads - 2BRs - Triakis+

I can't do the BR after the first drop in the tunnel at this speed. On Venom I can do it consistently and on Flash inconsistently. Other than that I don't see a lot of improvement to be made but we'll see as the week develops.

Edit: looks like the leaderboards aren't updating again...

yeldar2097
2nd November 2009, 09:32 AM
There's potential for a double BR after the long banked right-hander :)
(cheers to leungbok for the 2nd one :D)
I can't do them though so never mind.
Triakis below phantom speed is horrible to get used to, i'm gonna go try for another 10 mins :D

amplificated
2nd November 2009, 11:25 AM
Had my first attempt; 22.77, 12 sp's, 2 BR's, Triakis Fury. The triakis is probably my least used ship, it took a while to get a grip with it... it feels so sluggish! Definitely have room for improvement, I'll see what I can do later.

@ Rezatron: do you mean the very first possible barrel roll, down the first slope? If so, I have no idea of how you can't do it as it's one of the easiest BR's in the game :eek I hope you mean the one at the bottom, it's just you said you've only done 1 BR on that run and there are 2 very easy ones.


**** guys i'm sorry i haven't got that video up, been away this weekend, eek.

Do you guys still want it even though the comp is/will be over soon? :)

I'd still like to see it, but only if you actually want to upload it =p

AG-wolf
2nd November 2009, 02:31 PM
23.60 10sp, 3br, non-fury

i could definitely narrow this down... there's a possibility of 5BRs in this track! This is insane, im gonna try to get all 5 in a lap :D

leungbok
2nd November 2009, 02:59 PM
5 BRs are usefull below rapier ! I made a 21.90 on rapier (fury icaras) with 2 BRs ;)

AG-wolf
2nd November 2009, 03:04 PM
well it's only 4 practical BRs, one of the 5 was a fluke, and now I can't get the one in the first tunnel that I was doing consistently before.

triakis is a piece of garbage, btw lol

Rezatron
2nd November 2009, 05:59 PM
@ Rezatron: do you mean the very first possible barrel roll, down the first slope? If so, I have no idea of how you can't do it as it's one of the easiest BR's in the game :eek I hope you mean the one at the bottom, it's just you said you've only done 1 BR on that run and there are 2 very easy ones.


Yes that's what I meant, my bad. I wasn't even counting that BR as it's so easy to do, really on afterthought. I'll fix my other post.

yeldar2097
2nd November 2009, 06:44 PM
22.04 - 11 pads - 2BRs - Triakis+

That's me done for now, can't beat my icarus ghost atm...

SaturnReturn
2nd November 2009, 06:52 PM
Try beating your Icaras ghost. It's probably easier. :P

yeldar2097
2nd November 2009, 07:36 PM
we've been through this before on MSN you cheeky bugger ;)
I say icarus...unless it's H-Dicaras because it is cool enough that it warrants being spelled correctly. Fury 'Armadillo from crash bandicoot' Icarus on the other hand, does not deserve such good treatment.

*keeps digging*

:g

AG-wolf
2nd November 2009, 07:47 PM
how are you people getting such ludicrous times? Im at 23.12 with regular triakis

I boost before the start/finish line
BR at top of hill
BR at first right turn in tunnel (if Im lucky)
straight through zigzags
Turbo after second single SP and BR before jump
BR in the air after jump
finish lap apx 23.5

I dont even know how I got the 23.12, it was like a fluke.

23.08 video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOCQuBd74K0
apologies for the horrible angle, it was on a whim... and my new lap was totally unexpected :P

Missed the BR in the beginning of the tunnel. but seriously, what am I doing wrong? do I just need to clean up my racing line?

yeldar2097
2nd November 2009, 08:15 PM
boost at the bridge.
My lap looks like this but in rapier: Video courtesy of pacman :) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOxhh39r-Io)

@your vid: your lines seem fine you just need to boost + nose down at the bridge, not boost where you're boosting atm (too much airtime etc..) :P
Love Woop Dee Doop, great tune.

P.S. TDRR Flash vid uploading.

Rezatron
2nd November 2009, 08:32 PM
This + I also use the speed pad on the far left in the tunnel after the 2 grouped speeds pads. To recover my line I side swift to the right on this pad. To add to that, side swift everywhere you can as it minimizes your steering input! Side shifting on speed pads seems to gain you a slight speed advantage compared to just going over them.

PS: can't watch that pac video, it's private.

AG-wolf
2nd November 2009, 08:39 PM
yeah, private video :/

"boost at the bridge" as in before, at the crest, or after? I feel like if I boost right before it or as I'm going off, I hang in the air way too long- is this why I'd need to nose down as well? I just turned off my ps3 for now because I have to do classwork :P

Rezatron
2nd November 2009, 08:51 PM
Go off the bridge, point your nose down, and boost in the air. Aim to land close to the inside wall on the last turn. You'll get a really nice landing and really clean boost :)

yeldar2097
2nd November 2009, 09:05 PM
oh cockfosters! sorry bout that...my bad.

First lap of This Video by LeungBRbok (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZOo398gLfc) is the same as mine but diff speed class/ship

Edit: Pac's vid is now public :)
---
Regarding last week's challenge: Following my 27.68 ghost (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPuq12uL-aU)

...as promised :D

Edit: sorry mods! forgot i had the last post.

KGB
2nd November 2009, 11:10 PM
:+ Fame at last, thanks :D. I can't see where i was losing time really but your start looked a lot smoother than mine.

I'll get round to this weeks one at some point, I've spent the last three days in bed with what I thought was swine flu, only to be told today that I have tonsillitis, hurts like hell.

Rezatron
2nd November 2009, 11:14 PM
Regarding last week's challenge: Following my 27.68 ghost (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPuq12uL-aU)

...as promised :D

Edit: sorry mods! forgot i had the last post.

Thx for the vid. The only thing you did different than me was raise you head up and boost over the speed pad going up the hill, I always stayed low and used that pad. Maybe that's the difference? Probably not ;)

Back to this week's challenge: 22.17 - 12 pads - 2 BR - Triakis+

I can now do the BR in the tunnel after the drop. Except I nail it about 15% of the time and when I do the proceeding two left handers end up being totally **** and my ghost catches up with me :D

yeldar2097
2nd November 2009, 11:16 PM
I've never done the BR after the drop...tis impossible, i've decided ^_^

amplificated
3rd November 2009, 03:29 AM
Regarding last week's challenge: Following my 27.68 ghost (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPuq12uL-aU)

Thanks for uploading it =p

You went a lot smoother than me over the lips (that sounds great, huh :P), I usually connect with the 2nd and 3rd, probably on the 3rd because I didn't sideshift off it as much as ride straight over it.
Plus I was like Rezatron, and went low in the tunnel to collect the speedpad on most occasions, plus I handled the last corner a little differently but I don't think they were major contributors to the overall time compared to how you handled the lips. I'll have to give it another go some time :+

JaLK
3rd November 2009, 04:55 AM
Got a lovely 22.29 with 11 pads and 3 BRs. Shaved off .52 from my time thanks to the third one

And by the way Leungbok, I noticed you push your nose down when going over a speed pad in your last video showing the BR after the first drop. Am I imagining you doing it or does it really make a difference?

{EDIT}Wait... Yeldar maybe you can answer this as well. Since it's you who posted the video. Oh hell anybody can answer. Damnit I need sleep...

leungbok
3rd November 2009, 09:12 AM
And by the way Leungbok, I noticed you push your nose down when going over a speed pad in your last video showing the BR after the first drop. Am I imagining you doing it or does it really make a difference?



^^It don't changes your speed, but it can help to prevent bouncing sometimes ;)


I've never done the BR after the drop...tis impossible, i've decided ^_^

In fact this BR is easier at lower speed ;)

yeldar2097
3rd November 2009, 10:08 AM
I can do it on venom + flash :g

Actually I think I could do it but I don't know when I can BR in Triakis because it's so MASSIVE

leungbok
3rd November 2009, 03:24 PM
Oh yeah, lol. I talk about a classic ship (icaras, feisar, ag-system), i don't know for big butts :lol

AG-wolf
3rd November 2009, 09:23 PM
"big butts" lol :P Change your view, get the one that's further away from the ship and you can see fine. I don't understand how people use the close view at all, I feel like my face is being burnt off by the ion stream.

Also, the BR at the first drop is easy as pie, how can people not pull it off?

Rezatron
3rd November 2009, 09:37 PM
There was some confusion before AG, I was referring to the second possible BR in the tunnel after the drop. See leungbok's video in post #185. Of course the first BR is easy ;)

brainbeat
3rd November 2009, 11:24 PM
great work everyone last week, my best so far is
0.22.82 Triakis fury 2 Brs 10 speedpads.
cant see me squeezing more of this unless im lucky enough to get 2nd br and not like rez said fly into wall :)
oh and im currently uploading a speedlap vid for last weeks challenge but on rapier will be done in 20 mins, but rubbish res only 176x144 lol
Video now up, oh and yelda on the 3rd lap its hard to see like but i br later on the lip with black boundary, u can br into it and the br again like but press down if your at max velocity otherwise u hit arch of tunnel
no video at present due to some youtube cockup,

Rezatron
4th November 2009, 12:12 AM
Ah my eyes! :eek and it's upside down! can't watch that :dizzy

brainbeat
4th November 2009, 01:02 AM
gordon bennett it was the right way round then i did an audioswap and it seems to of gone wrong,
Its back up if you wanna skint
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdewaG7R7yI

yeldar2097
4th November 2009, 01:11 AM
ahahahahaha! That vid was mental ^_^

Couldn't really see much though...will turn monitor upside-down :)

Youtube = fail

amplificated
4th November 2009, 11:27 AM
I'm struggling with this week's challenge. Modesto Heights is a pretty tough course, plus I haven't really worked that hard on it before this challenge - and I don't think the Triakis is helping! :P I swapped over to the HD version because the Fury one is just too big, heavy and generally unpleasant to use... not that the HD one is a dream :mad:

As it is, I don't really know how to significantly outdo my current best of 22.72. Even after viewing those videos, I don't see where I'm going so wrong, other than perhaps skipping the BR at the start of the tunnel.

brainbeat
4th November 2009, 12:52 PM
on the last corner when you are in air using turbo theres like a crany structure, on the inside corner attached to the building , is it possible to get another br if you land on it,
i have reuploaded that tdr video

KGB
4th November 2009, 01:23 PM
22.50 - 11 speedpads - 2 br - Fury Ship

Don't think I'm taking the first corner very well and can't get the second br consistently either. Not a bad start though.

Dark_Phantom_89
4th November 2009, 01:25 PM
I'm also struggling this week - damn, looks like I picked an absolute nightmare of a combination this week!

I can get the 3rd BR around 20% of the time, but I've always messed up a previous part of the track, so it makes no difference.

So far, all I can manage is 23.95 with 3BR's. Could have been so much faster if I hadn't messed up the first corner!

EDIT: 23.84

yeldar2097
4th November 2009, 03:24 PM
yeah it's really hard this week. Also really frustrating because I can only do 2BRs... grrrr

My time for the week won't be getting improved as I'm in Holland till sunday night. GOGOGOGO!

AG-wolf
4th November 2009, 09:20 PM
22.76, 11sp, 2br, non-fury.
If I can throw in the 3rd barrel roll, I'll be good. might try fury ship later in the week.

yeldar2097
4th November 2009, 09:33 PM
where is this 3rd BR everyone is talking about? Is it the one after the banked right-hander or the one at the bottom of the slope?

Rezatron
4th November 2009, 09:46 PM
I think the one at the bottom of the slope/drop (2nd possible BR on the track, right after the first one), at least for me. JaLK said it shaved half a second off his time. If I can make that and keep form i'm looking at a 21.xx time in frickin' Triakis :P right now I don't have the motivation though ;)

Vartazian
4th November 2009, 09:47 PM
For me The 3 BR's are as follows on Modesto.

1: Slope Down, Easy BR.
2: Bank Hard right after 2nd Speed pad BR before Hairpin turn on Banked corner.
3: Turbo over Jump before 90 Degree turn to finish line.

Those are all the BR's I used to get the 4 Modesto TT Records.

If there is a fourth im yet to know about it (Except for Yeldars special barrel roll which causes more damage then good on TT).

yeldar2097
4th November 2009, 09:54 PM
That 2nd BR is impossible though, it's like the 3rd/4th (non turbo) BRs on TDR...

The one after the banked turn (after the tunnel) is WAAAY easier. Don't actually know if it's faster though.

Vartazian
4th November 2009, 09:56 PM
The Second BR as in right after the slope? In Triakis it is difficult I will admit but it definately isnt impossible.

Maybe we are speaking of 2 seperate BR's?

I know your BR on the Long Right pre-Jump doesnt drastically improve time either. but It might give the edge needed to do speed lap.

Rezatron
4th November 2009, 09:57 PM
For me The 3 BR's are as follows on Modesto.

1: Slope Down, Easy BR.
2: Bank Hard right after 2nd Speed pad BR before Hairpin turn on Banked corner.
3: Turbo over Jump before 90 Degree turn to finish line.

Those are all the BR's I used to get the 4 Modesto TT Records.

If there is a fourth im yet to know about it (Except for Yeldars special barrel roll which causes more damage then good on TT).

Official leaderboards are lagging again, you'll have to redo the TT at Venom speed to get back your "King of Modesto" title ;)

1 1 1.26.09 england shapealot Icaras+ 36 09-10-31 1000
2 2 1.26.41 fr Leungbok Icaras+ 32 09-11-03 967
3 3 1.26.74 ca Rezatron Icaras+ 36 09-11-02 935
4 4 1.27.03 ca Vartazian Icaras+ 35 09-10-27 907

Vartazian
4th November 2009, 09:59 PM
Really I got topped again? I swore I beat that. Oh well ill gladly take another crack at it.

On a side note, I love Modesto since its the only course I can give advice on XD. That and MAAAAYBE TDR/rev/Fwd. I know I beat the Record for MP Mod Rev and VenK Fwd but it still isnt updated. its VERY frustrating. I want my damn records! >=(

Rezatron
4th November 2009, 10:02 PM
Maybe you did, check your personal tab. If so, update Connavar's site etc

Vartazian
4th November 2009, 10:06 PM
My Personal Tab isnt updating either thats the weird part. I got photos to prove it too. (the record from the race that is)

yeldar2097
4th November 2009, 10:09 PM
You can give advice on any track really. I'm not the master of any one track but I feel comfortable giving advice on all of them - it's just my execution that fails me :D

Yeah we are talking about the same BR - Can't do it above flash speed. TBH I suck at the first bit of the track, I always bounce like a lairy mofo at the end of the first slope. PITA
My 2nd BR (end of long right-hander) does sweet FA but I reckon if you doubled it up it might be quite useful...

P.S. Was your Vin K faster than 1.36.6x? :g

Vartazian
4th November 2009, 10:13 PM
I think my Vin K record was 1.36.4x I might be mistaken but it was almost a full second above the previous record. I Fist pumped at how glorius it was only for it not to be updated. *cry*

Yeldar who are you kidding you got well over 60% of the records... stop being so modest(o)! :)

leungbok
4th November 2009, 10:17 PM
1 1 1.26.09 england shapealot Icaras+ 36 09-10-31 1000
2 2 1.26.41 fr Leungbok Icaras+ 32 09-11-03 967
907

5 BRs per laps on my attempts ;) (at venom speed BRs rules). I don't know for shapealot but he's good for BR-ing too !

Rezatron
4th November 2009, 11:07 PM
Wow I did only 3 per lap. I'm not big on watching videos, I prefer to find the BRs myself :)

Vartazian
4th November 2009, 11:18 PM
Hmmm. I only got 4 on Modesto Heights Venom Speed. Looks like I need to go BR hunting...

Rezatron
5th November 2009, 12:53 AM
22.01 - 12 speed pads - Still only 2 BRs - Triakis+

Improved my time with slightly better lines after the long right banker and a cleaner landing off the speed pad after the first drop.

I managed to do some laps wth 3 BRs and maintain form but then I get all nervous and **** up my lines or something else ridiculous. :blarg

amplificated
5th November 2009, 05:12 AM
22.46, 2 br's, 12 sp's

can do better...

Dark_Phantom_89
5th November 2009, 08:43 AM
Damn, I'm over a second slower than everyone else! I really need to work on this!

Leaderboard Updated

KGB
5th November 2009, 09:09 AM
Had 99 laps at this yesterday and couldn't get near my time, so that's it for this week, guess i was lucky to get it. Do you want a photo DP89 if it hasn't updated?

shapealot
5th November 2009, 01:54 PM
@leungbok i only do 3 BRs per lap, where are the other 2?

leungbok
5th November 2009, 01:57 PM
Boost/BR before the bump, BR using the bump, take the left pad, pitch up and last BR in the final right turn ;)
Don't know if it's faster, my lines weren't good, i race venom for the fun of making lot of BRs :D

yeldar2097
5th November 2009, 02:08 PM
Yes leung that's what I do in venom as well :g
Venom BRs = win :bat

shapealot
5th November 2009, 02:25 PM
me 2 its fun :) i used to do it that way but beat my time with just the 3 BRs, i might have another go at it

phaeton_pl
5th November 2009, 04:20 PM
If we are talking about Venom BR Lovers i'm definately in! Great fun, even if they don't improve my time :)

I think its time to join this challenge.
I just realized this is going to be my very first time i use Triakis O_o

Dark_Phantom_89
5th November 2009, 06:27 PM
Had 99 laps at this yesterday and couldn't get near my time, so that's it for this week, guess i was lucky to get it. Do you want a photo DP89 if it hasn't updated?

Nah it's ok KGB - I believe that your time is honest. However, if you want to post a photo then you can, it's totally up to you :)

Rezatron
5th November 2009, 10:40 PM
If we are talking about Venom BR Lovers i'm definately in! Great fun, even if they don't improve my time :)

I think its time to join this challenge.
I just realized this is going to be my very first time i use Triakis O_o

It's good to see some high level SL/TT players join the challenge. I look forward to what you and sir Shapealot can do. You might force me to redo my time with 3 BRs this time ;) if not, then my fingers will thank you.

It's kind of hard to pull off the 2nd BR in Triakis at this speed. I took the Feisar out for a spin yesterday and it was noticeably easier.

yeldar2097
6th November 2009, 12:47 AM
Actually I wouldn't half mind having a TT challenge thrown in once a week (or fortnight etc...) as well. Would be healthy for the leaderboards too :)
:g

amplificated
6th November 2009, 03:18 AM
I'd be up for that.

Maybe make an optional TT challenge for the same week's course to make things easier? :P Would take 2 lists to update though. Just an idea though, I don't play TT much, maybe it'd help is all.

Rezatron
6th November 2009, 03:36 AM
DP89, in the first post I think it would be good for reference sake to include the track/speed/ship in addition to the results for each week. I know we can find that info by digging through the topic but I think it would make your summary better :+

Dark_Phantom_89
6th November 2009, 05:25 AM
Rezatron - Noted, and done :)

EDIT: Managed a 23.51, 3BR's, 14SP's. I'm still messing up parts of the track!

Yeldar - I thought there was already a TT Challenge going?

yeldar2097
6th November 2009, 10:50 AM
@DP89: Not as far as I'm aware of....there's a gaping hole in the TT challenge market! oO :P

Mietepiet
7th November 2009, 10:47 AM
Hello guys,
I'm back again.
23.25 - 2br - 12 pad - fury

@DP89: guess you were right again, sorry!

Dark_Phantom_89
7th November 2009, 11:21 AM
Good to see you back and beating me again Mietepiet :)

As for the the Time Trial issue, perhaps it is something that could be implemented in the near future if people wanted it? Perhaps a poll on the idea...

Dark_Phantom_89
7th November 2009, 03:04 PM
The rivalry between myself and Mietepiet continues...

23.06, 2BR's, 12SP's

KGB
7th November 2009, 03:47 PM
I would like to see TT included in this, but I think the gap between the top players would really show though.

Keeping it the same as the SL set that week is the best idea.

leungbok
7th November 2009, 03:58 PM
What about creating your own TT challenge ? :)
A parallel to this thread !

yeldar2097
7th November 2009, 05:31 PM
Good plan :+

Don't worry DP89, I might have a bit of time to improve my time on sunday before this week's challenge ends, never fear :g

KGB
7th November 2009, 06:05 PM
It's DP89's call really, it would be better if it was all in one thread then it could be an Elite Challenge. But that's if he wants to do it, if not, someone could start one for TT only. I'm not putting myself forward for this as I hate TT nearly as much as I hate SL :D. So I wouldn't do it justice. I'd still take part though. :P

SaturnReturn
7th November 2009, 06:11 PM
Discussion on the relative merits of speed lap and time trial events that was in this thread has been moved to it's own thread in the HD forum as it's an interesting topic.
New thread is here:
http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6999

Dark_Phantom_89
7th November 2009, 06:40 PM
A Time Trial Challenge could certainly be done, but I wouldn't want the Speed Lap Challenge to die as a result :(

leungbok
7th November 2009, 07:01 PM
The only risk is to attract more people IMO ;)

SaturnReturn
7th November 2009, 07:15 PM
You can add TT to the challenge, but stipulate that those wishing to take part should first complete speed lap. That way everyone should do the speed lap as well.

Dark_Phantom_89
7th November 2009, 07:21 PM
Nice idea, that would work :) Perhaps tomorrow could be the first week of the Time Trial Challenge...

brainbeat
7th November 2009, 10:51 PM
Hi this is the best i can do this week,

0.22.40 Triakis fury 12 Speed Pads 2 Brs

just managed to scrape .09 off my icarus pb so im happy, think i have to thank rezatron for tip on last corner i wasnt pressing down, had my own line but it help by quite a bit like 0.30,1417

Rezatron
7th November 2009, 11:33 PM
I just tied the world record ( 21.88 ) using 3 BRs this time but I missed a speed pad :mad:

SaturnReturn
7th November 2009, 11:44 PM
Woowoo! World Record alert! Awesome job.:+