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SonicChaos
5th August 2009, 05:57 PM
Just for the heck of it, I've decided to collect the names and zone numbers of the zones in Zone mode. If any of you can help fill it in be my guest. I'll edit this post with each name and number posted

Zone 0-1: Sub-Venom
Zone 2: Venom
Zone 3-4: Sub-Flash
Zone 5-6: Flash
Zone 7-11: Sub-Rapier
Zone 12-15: Rapier
Zone 16-19: Sub-Phantom
Zone 20-26: Phantom
Zone 27-34: Super-Phantom
Zone 35-41: Zen
Zone 42-50: Super-Zen
Zone 50-59: Subsonic
Zone 60-74: Mach 1
Zone 75+: Supersonic

Fan-made Zones
Zone 0: NASA Crawler
Zone 100+: ProblemSolver Zone.
Zone 100-129: Transsonic
Zone 130+: Hypersonic

finngers
5th August 2009, 05:59 PM
iirc
Supersonic is 75+
Subsonic is 50-69
Mach 1 is zone 60-74 and I think you've got the rest

SonicChaos
5th August 2009, 06:15 PM
Mabye at Zone 100 developers put in a ridiculous zone name or something. Good Luck making it that far though.

TheDukeZip
5th August 2009, 06:46 PM
Pretty sure supersonic is the highest. Not sure exactly which zone you'd be going Mach 2 at but I don't think it announces it.

mdhay
5th August 2009, 06:48 PM
Where's Arnaud when you need him?;)

When you take speed into account, I think that Mach 2 is approx. zone 90 (If not, feel free to correct me on this).

RedScar
5th August 2009, 06:57 PM
Where is problemsolver, he hit 125 on AP so he would know what comes after Supersonic if anything does.

Aeroracer
5th August 2009, 07:03 PM
problem solver knows everything. he owns the zone..

new zone names could be

hyper speed
warp spped
light speed

what about a zone that went up and down in speed by random like you play at the zone and your on phantom then it jumps to mach1 then to venom..thatll test your reflexs and ability to adapt.

yeldar2097
5th August 2009, 07:08 PM
There is nothing after supersonic (which makes PS rather upset ;))
tbh i think there should be at least 1 new named zone at zone 100 - the people who get that far really deserve something for their efforts :D

RedScar
5th August 2009, 07:12 PM
lol
Problemsolver Zone (Zone 100+)
he deserves it like yeldar said.

SonicChaos
5th August 2009, 07:15 PM
Yea no kidding. For all that effort an Easter Egg would be nice.

Aeroracer
5th August 2009, 07:18 PM
100% agree problem solver zone..when you reach it you know you are a master of the game.

SL you have been told..Honour the skillful players who buy and play your games

Lance
5th August 2009, 07:24 PM
Could we slack off on the shouting, please?

Aeroracer
5th August 2009, 07:41 PM
i thought shouting was writing in capitals..didnt know big writing was shouting too ..ill shrink it down to ok:nod:nod

mdhay
5th August 2009, 07:57 PM
new zone names could be
hyper speed
warp speed
light speed


I don't think these would be possible. Given that Phantom is about 700 km/h, and the speed of light is about 10 or 20 times that, an Ag craft would be engineered, even in Zone events, so that it can only break the Sound Barrier a certain amount of times.

Aeroracer
5th August 2009, 08:00 PM
i think light speed is 86000 miles per second. but it still sounds good.. i would like all the screen to go wierd and stretched out like you were out of it.:nod:nod

mdhay
5th August 2009, 08:07 PM
As good as that sounds, I don't think that SL would go for that. Possibly because there isn't many people who get that far.;)

Sven
5th August 2009, 09:10 PM
new zone names could be

hyper speed
warp spped
light speed
Ludicrous Speed?
Plaid?

SonicChaos
5th August 2009, 09:42 PM
Flannel? I suppose no one would get that far, but if they did it'd be there.

ProblemSolver
5th August 2009, 10:07 PM
Fan-made Zones
...
Zone 100+: ProblemSolver Zone.
You made me lol! xD


Where is problemsolver, he hit 125 on AP so he would know what comes after Supersonic if anything does.
Nothing. Even after zone 140, nothing. ;)


...
new zone names could be

hyper speed
warp spped
light speed

The 'obvious' extensions to SUPERSONIC are; TRANSSONIC and
HYPERSONIC. I still have to write down how they should look like. At
least, they should look beyond awesome (xD) such that a lot of people
will try to get there (somehow).

TRANSSONIC would be a good match for zone 100 and HYPERSONIC for zone
130. Anything thereafter could be labeled HYPERSONIC 1, HYPERSONIC 2, and
so on. There should also be a special sound once you reach TRANS- and / or
HYPERSONIC. A deep computerized voice would be cool.



There is nothing after supersonic (which makes PS rather upset ;))
tbh i think there should be at least 1 new named zone at zone 100 - the people who get that far really deserve something for their efforts :D
Upset? Might be true. The problem is that the color scheme for SUPERSONIC
virtually last forever. Just look at Syncopia, it last from zone 75 to 136,
at least. That's a long time.


...
SL you have been told..Honour the skillful players who buy and play your games
I think they thought it isn't worth the effort since only a few people
get past zone 100. But by the same token, why having a platinum trophy
when only a few people can achieve it? I also miss some easter eggs
within the game. Up until know nobody has found anything despite taking
1000 of photos. Are there any?


Last but not least, if we speak about names, don't forget other great
ZONE racer like for example kingheim, he takes top spots as well and
he is always on stage to beat my records.

sny
5th August 2009, 11:12 PM
I also miss some easter eggs
within the game. Up until know nobody has found anything despite taking
1000 of photos. Are there any?

Wasn't it you who found the Lemmings sprites on the displays of zone events at supersonic speed? I count that one as an easter egg. ;)

ProblemSolver
5th August 2009, 11:17 PM
@sny: Sure. But it popped in my face like nothing else. Kinda of an anti-easter egg. xD

Lance
6th August 2009, 06:52 AM
[thinks] 186000+ miles per second IIRC. :g

TaroBarkhan
6th August 2009, 11:10 AM
By checking wikipedia ... the speed of light is 1,079,252,848.8 kilometers per hour. In comparison the speed of sound (Mach 1) is 1,236 kilometers per hour. Roughly a million times faster. Quite a long way to go.

... ProblemSolver, we are all counting on you. :p

ProblemSolver
6th August 2009, 12:13 PM
... ProblemSolver, we are all counting on you. :p
The given problem, reaching speed of light, has no solution. Sorry. ;)

An excursion into physics;
A phycial object that has a mass at rest can't move with the speed of light,
because it's mass would become infinite. And an object that has an infinite
mass can't move at all. One would need an infinite amount of energy to
accelerate an object up to the speed up light. But the energy in our universe
is finite (bounded). Allowing for an infinite amount of energy in the theory of
mathematical physics would render all physical equations useless, that is to
say; those equations won't pose a unique solution despite nature behaves in
a unique way. :nod

djKyoto
6th August 2009, 12:26 PM
/head explodes

Contender Eliminated.

TaroBarkhan
6th August 2009, 12:53 PM
So, you need a ship with zero mass. Or you could do it like in Star Trek:

1) Create a warp bubble around the ship
2) Ship does not move inside the warp bubble
3) Warp bubble moves with speed of light or higher
4) Thus relatively to the track your ship is moving with the speed of light, BUT in terms of physics the ship is stationary.

Problem solved.

Ooops, sorry, this is not my line of text ;)

Lance
6th August 2009, 02:52 PM
~snip~But the energy in our universe
is finite (bounded). Allowing for an infinite amount of energy in the theory of
mathematical physics would render all physical equations useless, that is to
say; those equations won't pose a unique solution despite nature behaves in
a unique way. :nod

We don't really know if that is true or not true.

SonicChaos
6th August 2009, 04:06 PM
Well, you could also warp space-time too but then we're turning this into a physics geeks forum. (Not that there's anything wrong with that, i took physics in High School.)

Sven
6th August 2009, 10:42 PM
So, you need a ship with zero mass. Or you could do it like in Star Trek:

1) Create a warp bubble around the ship
2) Ship does not move inside the warp bubble
3) Warp bubble moves with speed of light or higher
4) Thus relatively to the track your ship is moving with the speed of light, BUT in terms of physics the ship is stationary.

Problem solved.

Ooops, sorry, this is not my line of text ;)
Actually they also use inertial damping fields in Star Trek to reduce the inertial mass of the ship to make it easier to move. So I guess you could just go with that and reduce the ship's mass to zero and not have to bother with the whole warp bubble thing, so long as you didn't want to actually go *faster* than light. Would do wonders for the thrust statistic too ;-).

But of course once you get to those speeds you'd have to start dealing with what the frequency of your ship is and how many of them you have to pilot at once, and other such nonsense.

So if you did manage to get a ship to relativistic speeds, could you theoretically pilot it through *both* branches at the Ubermall split? And would it diffract as it goes through the narrow bit at Anulpha Pass?

So many questions.

/geek

Darkdrium777
6th August 2009, 11:44 PM
Any Mass Effect fans around? :p
We need to go to Mars first and find the Prothean data cache with some Element Zero. Then eventually get to Charon and have it thaw to uncover the Mass Relay.

Oh yes, according to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypersonic#Classification):

http://a.imagehost.org/0182/ClassificationTable.png

So the next logical name would be Hypersonic, and not Transonic. However, since we want a Zone which ProblemSolver can reach, Hypersonic is out as well because it corresponds to a minimal speed of around 6000 km/h.
The next zone would have to be Mach 2, but then again I doubt ProblemSolver can even reach that, so unfortunately if we want to remain with the standard we will have to keep Supersonic as the last named Zone, simply because any further realistic objective is humanely impossible to reach (And therefore useless to implement.)

afatsuoM
7th August 2009, 09:15 AM
Of course we could also forget about official scientific names and just go with something made up like the first few zones (up to subsonic). I mean, Venom, is that really a speed class in real life?

I vote for Ludicrous speed (as pronounced by Rick Moranis). :beer

SonicChaos
7th August 2009, 07:45 PM
I agree. We turned a fun name into a physics debate.

Darkdrium777
7th August 2009, 11:06 PM
I made this. :)

http://h.imagehost.org/t/0552/ZoneColours.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0552/ZoneColours)

For now the link at the bottom is a lie, it won't be soon enough xD

ProblemSolver
8th August 2009, 12:54 AM
@D777: Good work!


... So the next logical name would be Hypersonic, and not Transonic. However, since we want a Zone which ProblemSolver can reach, Hypersonic is out as well because it corresponds to a minimal speed of around 6000 km/h.
The next zone would have to be Mach 2, but then again I doubt ProblemSolver can even reach that, so unfortunately if we want to remain with the standard we will have to keep Supersonic as the last named Zone, simply because any further realistic objective is humanely impossible to reach ...
True. (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143605&postcount=170)


... (And therefore useless to implement.)
We can use artificial names. Some guys over at SL should stick their heads together
and create some funky names. :nod Easy.

SonicChaos
8th August 2009, 06:05 PM
I don't see why not. It's a game, in games, the rules of the universe can be changed.