Website for Global Rankings

[chboing]

ahaha :) while all the other things were due to Connavar, i have to take the credit on this one ;)
i knew i had a real talent for website ... knew it !!

[Wotan]

@ Pap: ah ah well done ^^. I wanted to stay in front page, but connavar said to me my pic was going to make fall the influx of the site ... I don't understand :dizzy

[leungbok]

Yes mate, i don't understand too ! It seems that people here, was not made for loving you !! Sad, very sad :(

;)

[Darkdrium777]

I really like the design now.
Any chance for sauce? :robot

[RedScar]

I don't get what you mean dar...........
now I seez it :D

[pirahpac]

i see im 2nd on ur site( d4_wo) on moa tt phantom .. so u think the 1st"varyan" 1.52.35 is valid Oo?? if u put "glitch records " or " bug records " in ur table..i dont see the utility of ur site...

[JJPAP]

Look closely, Pirhapac: Varyan has only done MOA TT Phantom ... since october 2008! So while you and me (and a lot of other wipers) have been exploring almost every kind of race possible, he might have had one lucky punch out of the 4 billion times he must have given Moa a try :eek :D
I must admit, I think it´s very unfair of you being negative ´bout d4onps´ site because of this single glitched time. He has put a lot of time and effort in building this site - to the pleasure of all of us.
Of course it´s ok to point out glitched times, but I think you´re over-reacting, saying you don´t see the "utility" of his site, because of this :?
Well, couldn´t help myself - See you on Moa, mate :D

[pirahpac]

i think u dont know this race for talk about that..

[JJPAP]

I know Moa and I know 1st place it´s a glitched time, but that´s not what I´m talking about, mate ... :rolleyes:

[Spece2goin]

new page for the site? from when?
nice track! wich ship would you select for it?

[leungbok]

Mateo should say icaras ;) ( http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6234&page=6 )

[yeldar2097]

just to point out: on wipeoutrecords.com if you filter by phantom only you see that wotan has an index of 1037. is this right?

[Connavar]

Ok so to be clear, I haven't contributed to wipeoutrecords in ANY way, I have
never authorised d4onps/d4_wo to use any of my data/pictures/html code/
css code etc (in fact I never ever received a request), so his website is pure
stealing.

Oh by the way he banned me (probably be banning Belgian IPs) and this is
what I see when I go to his site:
http://www.wipeoutrecords.com/soon.jpg
(in case he changes the picture, I also attach it!)

[Darkdrium777]

Hmm. Maybe I was too quick on the scales button. :?

[leungbok]

Ok so to be clear, I haven't contributed to wipeoutrecords in ANY way, I have
never authorised d4onps/d4_wo to use any of my data/pictures/html code/
css code etc (in fact I never ever received a request), so his website is pure
stealing.

Oh by the way he banned me (probably be banning Belgian IPs) and this is
what I see when I go to his site:
http://www.wipeoutrecords.com/soon.jpg
(in case he changes the picture, I also attach it!)

WTF ??? I thought you had participated :eek
So you didn't gave my logos for wipeoutrecords ?
Oh oh, i made them for you to use it, not for everyone on internet (especially if nobody ask us if they can use them :?)

[Pafduck]

Put your website online again Connavar, it is better than D4onp's one !

[tug_14]

+1 pafduck ...

[Connavar]

Put your website online again Connavar, it is better than D4onp's one !
I would but as soon as I do, my work would get copied/pasted again,
obviously without any authorization whatsoever.
That's the reason why it's down.

But don't worry, I'm planning a huge update, will calm everyone down :)

[ProblemSolver]

That's the reason d4 could come up that fast with his page. Hmm....
I think you both guys should discuss this issue on your own, first.
And after you got a clear stance (whatever it will be) tell us.

@Pafduck: Btw; Welcome on board. xD

[Pafduck]

don't worry Connavar, we are faithfull and we choose you (I know we are plenty).
don't be shy !!! (also, I lost my 6th place !!!!)

thanks ProblemSolver !

[ProblemSolver]

@Pafduck: no problem

[Connavar]

That's the reason d4 could come up that fast with his page. Hmm....
I think you both guys should discuss this issue on your own, first.
And after you got a clear stance (whatever it will be) tell us.

@Pafduck: Btw; Welcome on board. xD
Oh don't worry, that's the first thing I did.
My private messages have nicely been ignored, long time ago already!
So yeah it's not really possible to discuss it privately.

[leungbok]

Hmm, i'm no longer enthusiast about the new stuff (videos, ghosts...) on wipeoutrecords :?
Hey, Conna ! maybe you can add some of my videos on your future update (and i'm sure that Pirahpac and wotan will be okay too) :nod

[pirahpac]

:? omg i didnt know that about u 2..if i must vote between u two ..i vote for conna..1 : he s a old friend in this game now 2 :he was the first to do a site for ranking. and yes ( connavar ) u can take all my ghost , my videos..my gerbills and my belle mere ( ha ouai jla donne elle ) ps : i dont apreciate this picture for belgium ..really sad comportement :-

[IH8YOU]

Connavar, YES she's totally hot - and blondes aren't even my ball of wax - but WOW.

That said, I miss my (@*#ing stats.

But more importantly, I miss EVERYONE ELSE'S *#($ing stats - as those are the ones I'm interested in.

If I say please first, can we have that epic site back? :)

[mic-dk]

Hmm. Maybe I was too quick on the scales button. :?

Aye, seems like I was too... d4 - that's not cricket!

Stealing's NOT okay kids, m'kay?

[blackwiggle]

I just has a look at the HD videos thread where d4 put up a link to what I thought was just a graphical interface that made looking for a particular video of a particular track easier ,which I posted that I thought it was great.

I didn't realize all this other stuff was going down with our stats being copied from Connavar's wipeout rankings site.

I was having problems logging in a few weeks ago but never got around to finding out what was amiss,then the site was down for a while,which I attributed to a update going on,I looked at it the other night :eek and wondered what was going on,then I look at this thread and find some skulduggery has been happening.

Not pleased about that :naughty
Apart from majorly pissing off Connavar
I and a lot of other people put a lot of time into putting in records at the site.

[JJPAP]

No agreement between the two of you :(

Conna, don´t worry ´bout support for your site ;)

[Connavar]

Thanks for your support guys, thanks to this, d4onps finally reacted
after ignoring me for 2 weeks, and unbanned me from his website, so I can
see what it looks like, I'll try to resolve the issues privately now.
(However I'm still keeping my site down, for the reasons I mentioned earlier)

I'll tell you that most of the work on the site has been on adding the records,
and continuously optimizing the site until it works the way we all wanted,
more than actual coding itself (which is about 2200 lines only).

With the (rather solid) framework I created for the site, it allows me to add
any type of filtering, tables, ... in seconds! So all the extra rankings you see
on d4's site (ranking table, top 3, top 5, top campaign, top xxx) are TRIVIAL
to implement, they're 1 sql query each (1 line of code).
I just want to have a consistent system, not just fill a site with hundreds
of different rankings, if you see what I mean?

Also words on the future update: I've been working on it for some time, it's
coming at the end of the month and it's going to be HUGE, like twice as good
as the current one!! Everyone will be very happy :)

[Hemicrania]

Looks great!:o

[djKyoto]

Did I miss something?
Whats going on with wipeout-rankings?
What is this wipeoutrecords.com site I found on google? :|

/edit: Lol at my zone video being there...

[Spece2goin]

Read the 2 previous pages, you will understand.

[ProblemSolver]

@d4onps & Connavar:
I'm glad that everything worked out. Keep up the good work!

[SaturnReturn]

It's a shame the site's down Connavar. I wanted to see how far my ranking had slipped. Your site is a way of life for me :) I looked briefly at the other one but it was a bit too much information for me and seemed to load very slowly too. So I look forward to your own site coming back up so I can get back on the road to world domination.

[phaeton_pl]

Is there any point to upload race records on d4onps site? I see many players do this. If this is a different database will they be megred?

Anyway, please Connavar don't let us wait too long for the update.

[tug_14]

i agree withu phaeton ,
No place for 2 WOHD ranking , conna promised a brand new ranking :) , we wait , we wait ...

[Connavar]

There won't be a DB merge, so that info would be lost.

[Pafduck]

some news Conna ?

[blackwiggle]

The longer you keep it closed the longer people will go to the "Dark side"....

DO IT!

[Connavar]

Sorry guys, I had to delay it as I've been working on other projects.
Next goal = 4th of July.

[Pafduck]

Damned, I will be gone on holiday...

[tug_14]

hum, 4 july ? is it today ?
:nod

[infoxicated]

No place for 2 WOHD ranking
Yeah - there are three; the official one, the one on WipEoutZone and the one that Connavar is working on.

[tug_14]

well , i agree ... but u known what i was talking about .
U can't compare officialgame ranking and WOzone ranking with connavar 's site , it's an insult to his work i think .

[stin]

Tug, WipeoutZone`s Records had been going on for well over a long time till Connavar came along and we have no complains ever since!, Hell!, foxy even put sticky on too!:|

stevie

[tug_14]

i known stin and i didn't attack WOzone ranking, only said connavar 'site is where wipers , zoners and chboing :) put their WOHD times cos it s a clear ranking very easy to use .

sorry for my english, u know .... im french ;)

[stin]

sorry for my english, u know .... im french ;)

Aaah that`s different then, that`s ok. :)

stevie:)

[ProblemSolver]

The "official" leaderboard(s), the one that are provided by SL, was skewed
up long ago. Personally, I really feel sad about it. They weren't able to fix
the leaderbord(s) for over half a year now. :| But they had the time to
remove the low-energy sound from ZONE mode! :| I really hope they
have something on the shelf.... /seriously

[infoxicated]

Hell!, foxy even put sticky on too!:|
Wasn't me - one of the moderators did it.

I wouldn't normally be in the habit of adding a sticky link to direct traffic away from my own site to a competitor.

[Connavar]

The website is ready on my PC with all up-to-date times and many new useful
features... but I just had a look at another site, and well, I'm going to add some
security measures to avoid (or at least make harder) data stealing.

... patience

[yeldar2097]

i just checked and it asked me if i wanted to save a file. i got scared so i alt+f4'd it :D

[chboing]

sorry, fixed :p

[Reezy]

I preferred the other girl :(

[ProblemSolver]

@Connavar: Titts or gtfo. :P

[djKyoto]

What PS said. You ruined your site!

[Darkdrium777]

sauce pl0x

That's the second time I'm asking :(

[kaori]

Why do you choose to put a Mirage ship on the main page ?

[Connavar]

Haha. I think it's good, maybe should put a random ship each time someone
visits? And also the upgraded ships of Fury, the more aerodynamic ones hehe

[ProblemSolver]

Man, how about a random girl? Ehm ... well ... random in quotation marks! xD

"... the more aerodynamic ones heh" :+

[Lance]

The more aerodynamic girls? ;)

[Connavar]

Update ... I've been super busy and yet I managed to work on this website,
and currently I don't even play any game anymore, so my only motivation
to work on it, is knowing that it'll be useful to many people here.

(I plan to play the game a lot more in August/September, when FURY's out,
and hopefully I'll be able to compete with you all, especially Leungbok,
pirhapac, Wotan, yeldar etc...)

I'm going on holidays on the 21st, so the website will be up on sunday the
19th, for sure... because it's already functional, but I decided I would add
as much polish as I could, to make it safer, faster, and better overall :)

You won't be disappointed!!

[SaturnReturn]

Thanks for the update Connavar. I noticed you don't play much at the moment. Will you still want to play for the Flying Dutchmen? I hope so as you're one of our best players.

I look forward to the site coming back up. I have some nice personal best times to enter now :D

[mic-dk]

Heh, I guess I'm not the only one with a buttload of updates waiting :)

Looking forward to the 19th Connavar!

[blackwiggle]

I've got a stack of them,I think I've beaten nearly every time in that I have previously entered .

[Effedieffe]

:hyper Yeah Connavar! Nice news, 19th is not a long wait.
I have gone every day to see the lady hoping to see the site.
We all now have to wait only another thing... the release of Fury!!

[Reezy]

Connovar have you factored in the new tracks?

[Effedieffe]

... and the new game modes?

[KGB]

Yeah great Conn, can't wait to update all my new records.

Not! :frown:

[SaturnReturn]

Aw KGB - Don't you have one of those 'family' things? With those 'children' I've heard about? I'm sure if it weren't for them getting in your way you'd be all over the top 10. I've realised recently that all it takes is an insane amount of spare time. It's probably not worth it unless you're like me and have no social life :P

Any news Connavar? Site doesn't appear to be up :(

[blackwiggle]

I guess he might now be waiting so he can put in the tables for FURY, a most likely reason for the site as yet to reappear.

Better to do it all first,than to put the revamped site up only to have to take it down again for further upgrading.

I'm guessing he would need to see exactly what info will be relevant to each new mode before constructing the individual info grids,and waiting to see exactly what stat's are covered by the new update tomorrow.

[Connavar]

Slight delay, version 0.5 coming tonight!!!
And 1.0 1st week of August.

[pirahpac]

niiiiiiiiiice :hyper

[Pafduck]

yeeeeeeeeessss !!!

[ProblemSolver]

http://www.consolewars.de/messageboard/images/smilies/m-lick.gif http://www.consolewars.de/messageboard/images/smilies/m-grin.gif http://www.consolewars.de/messageboard/images/smilies/m-lick.gif

[Connavar]

Ok I sent the package to chboing, will be up in about 3 hours when he's back.

Notes:
- the core engine has been completely remade, now it's easily extensible
and goes super fast, traffic being minimized etc.
- small glitches will be fixed tonight, and a new section (counting as about half
of the website) appears in 10-15 days... and it's not a forum :)

[SaturnReturn]

Awesome. Thanks Connavar. Time for me to try and catch up with that yeldar fella while he's away and can't do anything about it.

[leungbok]

Yes mate, it'll be interesting to see how much damages he made for our ranks :lol And also some damn new frenchies like eric7dm or elois. ;)
Great Conna :)

[SaturnReturn]

Hehe, Elois was already ahead of me in the rankings ages ago. He's just kicked it up a massive notch recently. Eric too. It's like, any time someone pulls themselves up the record tables a bit, there are 5 french guys (and yeldar) knocking it back down again within 5 minutes.

[blackwiggle]

Ok,I just tried,great information if you wish to purchase dairy products from Belgium or France ATM ;)

Still no records site,I'll try in the morning.

[chboing]

it's a small step for man ....
:hyper

[djKyoto]

Oooooo. Nice. I like the fury scheme.

Might have to update all my scores later.

[ProblemSolver]

Yeah it's up again! :)

But it doesn't work with the PS3 browser! That's odd! :( I can't view any
records or write a comment whatsoever. :(

:( :( :( :( :( :| :( :( :( :(

[djKyoto]

Whats with the SL Phantom MT Rev times?

Did AkFurtif/Luxoflux find some new huge shortcut?

[Connavar]

Finally up!

Summary:
=======
1) almost everything has been javascripted now, except when adding/editing
a record, but soon it'll be 100%.
So that means = you might need a good browser like firefox or safari
(avoid internet explorer), but with those browsers, the site will be a lot faster
than before!

2) changes are not directly visible but they are there:
- faster response time
- try to click on a flag to see, or on a ship
- matrix mode (like the ranking map), 90% finished

3) many functionalities I've been working on have been disabled because
they were too slow to my taste, so I'm gonna optimize them and only then
present them, but I can already tell you what was done:

- for each ranking, whenever your name is not in the current table, you get
an extra row showing your next position, which is super cool, a bit slow atm,
but I know how to BSB it :)

- tournament section!! Fully working with ability to create teams and
tournaments/cups/... with ELO rating even, it's in html only right now so it
looks out of place, this will be done early August, and we can organize
the 1vs1, or whatever with it!

4) more coming

EDIT: ProblemSolver, I think the PS3 browser is a really bad one, but I'm
ready to work on making it compatible ... does google maps work fine with
it?

[Reezy]

Loving the matrix style Connavar, especially the score/rank options. :D
I forgot my pass already though :( :( :(

[ericd7]

Big thanks to you Connavar :+
Have a good hollidays :)

[mic-dk]

Looks great Connavar, and runs beautifully.

:+

[novide]

Big THX Connavar, site looks great... :hyper

but i can't log in ...

[leungbok]

Cool to see those rankings again :)
I was unable to comment on the overall chatbox (little bug to fix)
;)

[Pafduck]

Very good job !!

But i can't log in too... damned...

[shapealot]

yay its back up good work connavar ive tried everyday since it went down. 1 small problem though when i try and log in nothin happens so i thought i might have 2 register again but that directs me 2 an error page :/

[chboing]

guys, if you were already registered, you shouldnt have to do it again.
the user database should be the same it was before.
i checked, you aint in the base shapealot, so you'll have to register again. (you may have already been register but it's prolly been lost in a "synchro" )
But i noticed too the register thing is ****ed ...

if you're in the base, it looks like it work.
It worked for me, i see some users already made some comments.

i'll look into the database & the code if i can work something out of this but you'll prolly have to wait till connavar's back from holidays in 1 or 2 weeks.


edit : i restored a more recent user base :) should be better now, but still problems to register, conna will solve this when he's back
still, shapealot you aint in it, i'm sorry, you'll have to wait for me to update lots of times in some days, or will have to wait conna's return, or you can ask someone to add your times :)

[novide]

Hi chboing,

it works - now i can log in.... :)

THX :beer

[Pafduck]

me too, thanks !

[XBARNSTERX]

Nice job on the site guys, however i'm unable to log in myself :(

[Mu5]

Yeah I am unable to login as well - and theres still no 'forgot password' functionality :(

[chboing]

yup, you'll probably have to wait till conna's return in 1 or 2 weeks to log in again guys, sorry !

[superpj1]

Good job Connavar :rock

However could the tracks be listed in the correct order (Vineta, AP, Moa, Chengu, etc.) when I use the following filter : MultiplayerRace/All/Flash/superpj1/All ?

Thanks and congratulations for this site. You're a great programmer :clap

[superpj1]

However there are two small bugs :

1/ On IE8, when I go to the site through http://wipeout-rankings.mooo.com it's impossible to login correctly (it logs in but at soon as I click on a link, it logs off). However there's no problem if I login via the URL http://chboing.free.fr/wipeout/ !

2/ Race times should be sub-ordered by the lap time. For example on Multiplayer/AnulphaPass/Flash, I made the very same time as MarcKief (1.57.39) but he has a better lap time than me (27.89 vs 28.18 ). The official leaderboard says he's 6th and I'm 7th, but your site says I'm 6th.

[mic-dk]

I have broken my abillity to enter times...

I was updating my MP race times, but when I came to Vineta K (R), it defaults to Talons Junctions, and the apply buttom doesn't seem to work anymore. I tried closing my browser completely, but that doesn't do the trick. I'll try a IE tomorrow, but is anyone else seeing this?

[chboing]

well, connavar was a bit in a hurry when "releasing" this, we had to sort several bugs.
So the site still have some bugs, dont worry he'll repair everything when he's back :)

[mic-dk]

No worries. I was just wondering if I was the only one it happens to.

[shapealot]

cheers chboing i only wanted 2 give myself an english flag i think my times were up 2 date. havnt played in bout 2 weeks coz i bought resident evil 5, i got swine flu (seriously) so i got that 2 pass the time ill get back on it when when furys out tomorow. any chance of changin my flag 4 me or has connavar gota do it?

[ProblemSolver]

Good work, Connavar! And a special thx for you chboing, for your
additional support!


Finally up!
EDIT: ProblemSolver, I think the PS3 browser is a really bad one, but I'm
ready to work on making it compatible ... does google maps work fine with
it?
Only partially. :|

[superpj1]

There's a little problem with wipeout-rankings : I can't update my flag :(

[SaturnReturn]

Site runs very fast now :) It would be good to have a back button though, as the one in my browser doesn't work with it other than on the chatbox frame, and it makes comparisons a bit more long winded. Apart from that, nice work Connavar :+ Now please come back to TFD, we need you!

[DividedXZero]

Alt + <-- (left arrow) should work like the back button on the browser, just a shortcut ;)

[SaturnReturn]

Thanks, that's a helpful shortcut for the back button, but the browser button doesn't work on the records themselves. When you hit back, the records stay the same.

Also, a quick question about the index for Connavar (when you come back). It used to be the same as the average if you had all possible records for that setting. However now, if I go to Phantom, TT, All Tracks, Overall Ranking, then my average is 835 but my index is only 707. Is there a reason for this?

Many thanks again, it's nice to see effort pay off.

[Reezy]

Saturn, I wondered the same thing. It's because of the fury tracks, if you don't have a record for a track it assumes your score is 450.
So index is your (((avg x 16) + (#fury tracks x 450)) / total tracks). In zone mode its 28 records, other modes 22.

[SaturnReturn]

Thanks Reezy, that makes sense. Although it's a little disappointing so far as I can't play Talon's Junction without getting a weird headache/warped vision every time I go over the magstrip. Hopefully I'll get used to it and can still compete. Probably just tired now.

[Reezy]

Why is this not sticky anymore?

[leungbok]

Maybe because the site was down for a period. But it's back now, don't let it disappear from the first page :)
Something else : Conna, i recently uploaded some fury's speedlap times on the website and when i look in the HD section in speedlap all all global ranking i'm first (well that will not last :lol), no pb with that ^^, but for people who don't have fury, it's unfair no ? Isn't is a way of separating the incomplete (HD) and complete (HD+Fury) for the rankings, or maybe a third section with only the players with the pack (if it's not too much work of course^^) ?

[Connavar]

Hey guys, I´ll be back soon, but in the meantime, could you compile a list of
bugs with explanation of how to reproduce them, and I´ll correct everything!

Leungbok: I could imagine a HD only filter, but well, I heard that Fury was
pretty good, so in that sense the site is a further motivation to upgrade
to Fury.

[superpj1]

Why is this not sticky anymore?
Maybe because the site was down for a period. But it's back now, don't let it disappear from the first page :)

Connavar's site is great and VERY useful. They shouldn't have removed the Sticky :(

[SaturnReturn]

I agree it would be good to filter Fury tracks and have an HD only rankings.

In addition, I think times for HD tracks with HD ships deserve preservation in some way. This shows how far the boundaries had been pushed at the point of Fury's release. Records in the online tables show an icon next to them if a Fury ship was used. It would be good if the same could happen with this site and if we could then filter out the times with Fury ships. The ability you use faster ships on current tracks has essentially just moved the datum by which we measure ourselves. I'm still trying to measure up to the old standards and want to continue. I'm sure there others who want to do the same. There will also be those who will quickly go and use a better Fury ship and achieve a better time, despite no improvement in their ability. If we could optionally apply a filter to the ships I think that would provide something the 'official' rankings don't, and would be yet another reason why this site is better.

EDIT:
Read all abou'it
NUMBER OF THE BEST?
With the release of WipEout Fury, news breaks that yeldar2097 and Pirahpac are officially in league with the devil. The source of Wotan's power, however, remains unknown.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b367/SitarHero/666.jpg?t=1248458918

[leungbok]

As i already said, don't let this thread disappear ^^

[yeldar2097]

look at all those frenchies :eek

[djKyoto]

Why is it anyone can edit anyones record?

Seems if anything could be a bit of a security risk?

[Eloï]

I think all the records of a recent period are registered and untouchable, no matter if you edit it after. So if a revengeful troll ( wormwoodmartin for example ) comes and want to mess around, everything can be cleaned and put back to normal. I think...

[yeldar2097]

i can't see any records! :(

[Motorsagmannen]

i thought that only the person adding the record and the person that the record belonged to could change it. hmmm is this some new thingy?

[superpj1]

look at all those frenchies :eek

Last day I was racing online, someone asked me "are you one of those fast frenchies ?" I said "no I'm one of the slow ones" (I only play Flash) lol :p

[stinkleroy]

Lol pj :p Thanks for the work on the site connavar, nice to have it back, as unlike the rest of you I got totally sick of looking at those tits ;)

[yeldar2097]

there must be something wrong with you cat :P

[djKyoto]

Just did a bunch of Speed Laps / TT's

God dam french, can't match them. :beer

[Amorbis]

After messing around with the flags I noticed I can no longer reselect England as my nationality, I have no flag next to my name at all :(. If possible could you change it back please Connavar? I think my times showing next to the English flag makes getting a good time all that much better :D.

[Connavar]

Ok I'm back, just downloaded the Fury expansion :)
Gonna fix a bunch of bugs, before adding the new stuff.

- I noticed that flag bug, I can't select my flag anymore myself hehe.
- The edit everyone's record is news to me too...

[pirahpac]

i cant log in ur site..when i log i see " player and a number like 600...." i dont understand

[PLazarou]

So what is this site displaying exactly?

If I select 'Overall Ranking' I see 186 pages, 3704 results. Surely more than 3700 people have played Wipeout HD?:?

[chboing]

yeah, we cant get all the times, would take too many time.
So we just take the first one, most important ones if you ask me

there is around 1000 or more times for each ranking, sometimes more sometimes less.
Not always up to date atm cause we are in holidays, but we'll keep this up to date the best we can.
and prolly before sunday it'll already be better

[Pafduck]

I can't log ??? I don't understand why, the site is blocked

[chboing]

better now isnt it ?

[Connavar]

i cant log in ur site..when i log i see " player and a number like 600...." i dont understand

This bug has been fixed :)
Yeah it was a number like 60480 I forgot haha, no idea where it comes from.

[sny]

Great site! I have a small problem, though... I just registered, but can't add any new records. I had some of mine entered by others that I could update just fine, but nothing happens when I click on the "1", "3" or "10" buttons. Am I doing something wrong? :?

EDIT: The buttons are actually doing something, since I can see the website's DOM updating if I take a look at it, but either they aren't working correctly, or I don't know how to use them. :( Also, I see a lot of "undefined" (in the "record count" or the "number of results shown" fields) when filtering for a specific mode/track/speed/PSN ID combination.

I read through the guide at the top and the last couple of pages but found no answers to this problem apparently.

[Effedieffe]

Same happens to me, I just entered 10 records and when I tried to add 10 more nothing happens, same with 1-3. I tried Safari, Firefox Mac :cold, Firefox Win :pc.


... However could the tracks be listed in the correct order (Vineta, AP, Moa, Chengu, etc.) when I use the following filter : MultiplayerRace/All/Flash/superpj1/All ?


I agree with pj. Previous version had a nice feature: order a column by clicking its title.
I use to print a sheet with all my personal records to quickly find if I did one.
With tracks in order is easier.

In any way good job Connavar, I'm curious about the new stuff! :?

[Connavar]

Ok, will fix this, and readd column sortering, don't worry!

[djKyoto]

Yeah, can't enter aymore records atm.

[Connavar]

Sorry guys, I think I'll take another break now ... suddenly I can't take it
anymore :( :(

[chboing]

dont be sorry connavar, you made great work, site is ok now, and updating is in progress :)

god job man

[shapealot]

ive registered again but i cant select a flag the option box is empty

[PLazarou]

yeah, we cant get all the times, would take too many time.
So we just take the first one, most important ones if you ask me

there is around 1000 or more times for each ranking, sometimes more sometimes less.
Not always up to date atm cause we are in holidays, but we'll keep this up to date the best we can.
and prolly before sunday it'll already be better
Ok so when I look for myself in the 'overall rankings' and it says I'm 185, that doesn't actually mean I'm 185th in the world... does it?:p

[chboing]

yes, congratulations man :)

[superpj1]

dont be sorry connavar, you made great work, site is ok now, and updating is in progress :)

I agree, no need to be sorry Connavar you did a wonderful work on your free time :clap. The site works like a charm at the moment, you fixed all the major bugs :+

One suggestion for when you come back : When we add a new record, it would be great that he recordholder's name auto-fills as we type it (like they do on google), that way it would prevent mistyping. I know it's not easy to add but you're a good programmer, arent' you ? :pc ;)

[Connavar]

superpj1: thanks for the suggestions, something else you can do is enter your
name in the filter, apply.
Then when you enter a new record, your name will be used by default!

[superpj1]

That's what I do, but I sometimes enter other people's times ;) btw is there a reason why FEISAR and GOTEKI are uppercased unlike the other ships ? typo ?

[ProblemSolver]

Since WipEout HD is a PS3 game, I would be glad if Connavar's webpage would
also work with the PS3 browser. :| Keep it simple Conn, I mean, if you go
PC-only then we could also add some complex three-dimensional visualizations,
that will utilizes a quad core to some extend, of the given data. ;)

[sny]

Damn, I accidentally entered my phantom Chenghou reverse single race time to Chenghou forward, and now I can't delete OR edit it, since the delete button is not there anymore and editing only seems to work if I improve on the time. :S

I guess I have to beat that time to fix this problem. :robot

[Connavar]

Guys, for best javascript performance, use Safari (or maybe Chrome), it's
faster than Firefox, and a lot faster than Internet Explorer.

ProblemSolver: do we know exactly what the PS3 browser can and can't do?
I'm following standards ... best if Sony could improve the browser...
The website is actually more simple than it was before, but it's using a lot of
javascript now, that's probably the issue here ...

sny: yeah I'm aware of that problem, will be fixed some day!

[sny]

Thanks, Connavar! For now, chboing was kind enough to delete that record for me, so that particular occurence is fixed. :) I'll try to be doubly careful when entering times now.

[SaturnReturn]

What's going on with the Moa Therm Reverse / Phantom / Speel Lap record? I can't read the French comments, but is that a glitch?

[Connavar]

Not a glitch, just the best shortcut ever :)

[phaeton_pl]

Good job guys, site is up and works fine.

There is few scores that are a bit unbelievable. Check those two:

Multiplayer/Sol2/Venom
Speed Lap/Chenghou Forward/Flash

[chboing]

yeah, we'll have to deal with those glitched times until a delete button exists.
I think it's on Connavar priority list now, but he needs to rest :beer

[djKyoto]

Not a glitch, just the best shortcut ever :)

I'd love AkFurtif's or Luxoflux's input on this one. How the hell?

[yeldar2097]

see here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bn953QVaZU&feature=channel_page)

[XBARNSTERX]

Speechless:rock:clap:clap:clap

[Motorsagmannen]

ZOMG!?!?
Fraking EpIc :o
that is the most insane shortcut ever i agree 100%

[yeldar2097]

you know you're cool when you can do it mid-race :P
i can't lol (well i did it once but it was a fluke ;))

[IH8YOU]

I rarely watch shortcut or trick videos - but with you Yeldar - I figured it had to be something truly "different".

And you did not disappoint - the sad bit is - I suspected you could jump off the track there with a boost - because I have (to the right) but just respawned.... if only I had turned left.... :nod

I'd like to see if I could pull it off - but I have Wipeout no moar. :(

[leungbok]

Not a glitch, just the best shortcut ever :)

It's a glitch, you cross the ceiling !! And it's totally random, not something you can control from the start till the end :?

[pirahpac]

i agree.. totally random..(if no? who can do this short(long)cut 5 times in tt ?) its like jump up the mountains on sebenco.;or the glitch ( 17.68 ) on sol 2..a shortcut ....3 secondes ...lol;;so definitely glitch for me

[kaori]

Yeldar, I'm disappointed, this video was kept secret, when I or an other player showed it at an other player, he told him "it's a secret, but don't use it", it was like a gentleman agreement.

But first I showed this video to Sony Liverpool, 1st june, to know if it was regular or a glitch...
But no reponse since my PM... I'm disappointed by Sony Liverpool too...
The "longcut" always works since update 2.01, maybe it's a way for SL to allow this lucky and random longcut ? :(
Why this silence ?

[yeldar2097]

well i wasn't encouraging people to use it. i was just offering an explanation for the times on the website :(
in any case, it's public on youtube and nobody told me it was a secret...
sorry :(

[kaori]

Yes it was public for Sony Liverpool could see it...
I am not angry with you Yeldar.

I don't understand, WipEout HD is a downloaded game, SL can update it when they want...

Do you know that people who want Zeus Trophy delete their game, redownload it, and don't update it in order to use Anulpha Pass glitch ?

Why isn't WipEout HD v 2.00 on the PSStore ?


That's what REALLY annoys me...


Let's be friend

[superpj1]

:beer guys, it's just a game ;)

[SaturnReturn]

Blasphemy :?

[djKyoto]

see here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bn953QVaZU&feature=channel_page)

Well **** me.

[Lance]

Well, it is a game, not real life. A game. hmm.... just?
Oh, hell no.

[phaeton_pl]

One problem is that the glitch exists. Second problem is that players are using it.

You can call it a glitch or a new trick (like boost select) whatever. Thanks to this ranking is f***ed. I had a chance several times to beat (or get close to) Sol2 Phantom record with glitch, but its not the way the game should be played. Someone can say "its a new technic, just like Moa reverse, learn it".

So, its all up to us, we must set some rules :). We can keep Connavars site free of glitched records. What about some poll like "Is Moa Rev "longcut" a glitch and should be deleted?" I vote YES its a glitch.

[kaori]

We shouldn't poll, the decision would be taken by Sony Liverpool since June...

[yeldar2097]

i swear we decided amongst ourselves (correct me if i'm wrong) that those times would be changed anyway (in the chatbox on connavar's site...). I'm pretty sure we came to an agreement on it.

Moa Reverse - Venom - Multiplayer --- Definately something fishy going on there.

[Connavar]

Yeah we can delete the times, here's an idea if we want to do it automatically:
- for each mode/track/class combination, we should decide on a limit that can't
be reached, for instance if we could say 21 seconds on SL/moaR/phantom ...

Also I've improved the website a lot yesterday (should be up tonight):
- Fury layout is closer to the real one, much more readable,
in fact it's the layout I'm using now!
- Column sorting is back
- Tables show your own personal ranking with the option to jump to your page,
whenever you're not visible in them
- Back/Forward button (Saturn's request)
- Comments improved
- Matrix has been debugged, and some modes removed: Eliminator, Zone Battle

Don't forget you can filter rankings by country (click on a flag) and by ship!

[Eloï]

Would like to say I had corrected my 2 times on the website before, like I had said to pirha long time ago ;) even if I dont agree with the "hardly reproducible" argument that doesnt prove sthing should be banned... dont mistake, I agree these shortcuts were an error from SL though!

[SaturnReturn]

- Column sorting is back
- Back/Forward button (Saturn's request)


Thanks so much Connavar. I really missed those two features.:rock

[superpj1]

thanks conna :+ btw is it the only changes you made or are there minor changes/bugfixes you didn't mention ?

[SaturnReturn]

OMG! I only just noticed how the icons at the top change with track, speed class and game mode. That's soooo cool.:guitar

[Connavar]

Yeah thanks :)
We couldn't see before because the comments were in another frame...

superpj1: I added a chatbox that I made in 30 minutes ...
(I already have a much better version locally).
Can you try it just to see if it works ok?

[shapealot]

i hate 2 b a pain in the ass but this flag thing is still givin me trouble. i can log in no problem as allready have an account but when i edit my country/flag theres no confirm button and anything i click on from there logs me out. am i missing something?

[Connavar]

It's strange indeed, I just set your flag to "ENGLAND", do you prefer "UK"?

[pirahpac]

i hate 2 b a pain in the ass but this flag thing is still givin me trouble. i can log in no problem as allready have an account but when i edit my country/flag theres no confirm button and anything i click on from there logs me out. am i missing something?

same here....

[shapealot]

englands good for me. thanx connavar :beer

[superpj1]

i can log in no problem (...) but anything i click on logs me out.

same problem here. in fact I'm still "logged in" because when I watch the record tables, my name is highlighted. but the problem is that the site thinks I'm logged out (my name doesn't appear on top).

better with a screenshot :

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1643/73980063.jpg

[Effedieffe]

First of all great job Conna, super fast, well optimized, you're a pro! :clap
The new Fury layout is very good for on screen reading but please maintain the hd layout for printing.

However from my point of view some little adjustments needed.

- In track sorting, to avoid mistakes in entering times, would be better to have the exact order the game record table has. Ok until Sol(R), then Talon's Junction/Talon's Junction (R)/The Amphiseum/The Amphiseum (R)/Modesto Heights/Modesto Heights (R)/Tech De Ra/Tech De Ra (R).

- Flag filtering still a little buggy, try for example TIME TRIAL/Talon's Junction/Venom//ALL clicking my italian flag: RECORDS undefined unde PAGE/(RESULTS), or TIME TRIAL/Vineta K/Venom//ALL clicking il_Nik flag: only the assoartu64 record.

Finally a question, what means the matrix date option?

[Connavar]

superpj1: don't use internet explorer! Even when it works, it's super slow at
executing Javascript code. Go with Safari/Chrome/Firefox.

[Lance]

What about Opera?

[Connavar]

Ok Lance, I just installed Opera to test ... and I fixed IE compatibility issues,
so here are the results:

- Firefox:
- 100% functional
- fast

- Safari (and probably Chrome):
- 100% functional
- even faster!

- Internet Explorer 7:
- images are not displayed correctly
- layout is not exactly the one I wanted
- slow

- Opera 9.6:
- everything works fine except the filters having subsections, I'll work on it
- fast

I'll send a new version with bug fixes to chboing, then we'll see when it's up,
might take a week...

[Lance]

Thanks for the test. I dislike 9.6 and prefer to use anything up to 9.2x or to jump to 10.0.

[Connavar]

Wow apparently it was an Opera related bug, when using optgroup, so I was
kinda stuck, then downloaded Opera 10.0 and ... miracle ... bug is gone!!

So yeah the website is 100% operational with Opera 10.0 onwards.

[Lance]

Cool. The Opera 9.5 and derivative 9.6 were intentionally intermediate builds [codenamed Kestrel] between the earlier series and the intended new 'Peregrine' series being released as 10.0, which is much better than 9.5/6, which is the one series of Opera that I've never adopted as my standard browser.

[SaturnReturn]

Pirahpac just pointed out to me that the official records tables show I have a 1.36.67 on Ubermall Reverse Phantom TT. This isn't true. So please don't update this time on the site as it will mess things up. My best is still 1.41.22.

I have no idea how this one has come about as I haven't even touched that track on time trial mode in 3 weeks, as far as I remember.

Just thought I'd let everyone know to prevent more 'WTF?!' moments.

[superpj1]

Pirahpac just pointed out to me that the official records tables show I have a 1.36.67 on Ubermall Reverse Phantom TT. I have no idea how this one has come about as I haven't even touched that track on time trial mode in 3 weeks, as far as I remember.
so where does this record come from :?: never seen such a bug, maybe there was a ultra-skilled player who used your ps3 :p

[shapealot]

just downloaded opera 10 and i had no idea just how bad internet explorer realy was the site works fine now. thanx for the heads up :rock

[Connavar]

hehe make sure to spread the word, IE is :turd

(however the upcoming updated site fixes IE bugs so it looks a little bit better)

[Lance]

shapealot, if you think Opera is great now, just wait till you find out how much you can customise it. And you can even go farther than just using the built-in tools while it's running. You can also rewrite the menus by loading the files into a text editor. I rewrite just about all the menus to put the most used functions at the top, and also comment out the functions I don't use with a semi-colon at the beginning of the instruction line. This keeps the context menus small and convenient, and streamlines your browsing, cuts down on wasted motion and time.

/end Opera fanboi speech

[if you want to go really crazy with customising> http://operawiki.info/Opera ]

[shapealot]

thanx lance im gona check it out now :beer

[Connavar]

Opera looks super clean, very pretty interface.
I also noticed it scrolled smoothly, my website looks much better with a
smooth scroll.

I just discovered how to do the same Firefox,
enter "about:config" in the address bar, then confirm,
then Filter = "general.smoothScroll" => make it true instead of false,
it requires more CPU that's why it's disabled by default.

[SaturnReturn]

so where does this record come from :?: never seen such a bug, maybe there was a ultra-skilled player who used your ps3 :p

As I said already:
"I have no idea how this one has come about".

Believe me, there has never and never will be any ultra skilled player using my PS3 - just a guy with way too much time on his hands.:nod

[chboing]

done the update, tested briefly, working around here so i guess it work !

[Connavar]

To compare browsers again (it's relevant to this topic because we want
the website to go fast ...):

Sun Spider javascript performance (tests a bit too much, like things I'm not
using at all like 3d calculations)
http://www2.webkit.org/perf/sunspider-0.9/sunspider-driver.html



Safari 4.0.2 : 795.4ms +/- 0.7%
Chrome 2.0 : 880.0ms +/- 3.6%
Firefox 3.5.2 : 1518.0ms +/- 1.6%
Opera 10.00 : 4284.4ms +/- 2.0%
IExplorer 7.0 : 40534.4ms +/- 23.5%


Look!! Internet Explorer takes 40 seconds, when all others take between
0.8 second and 4 seconds, it's an order of magnitude slower than everything
else!!

A more relevant test with Jquery (which the website uses, however there
are many approximation errors in the results, so they vary by +- 50%!!,
still gives an idea ...)
http://mootools.net/slickspeed/



Safari : 42 ms
Opera : 60 ms
Firefox : 95 ms
Chrome : 95 ms
IExplorer : 339 ms


Again, all browsers are doing fine, more or less the same, except the good
old Internet Explorer.

If only the speed was the only issue ... it's not very compatible with today's
standards either, which explains the bugs encountered and why the logos
look so ugly on it...

So, everyone, please upgrade :)
I think Firefox and Opera and Chrome allow you to import all the settings
so you won't have to recreate your bookmarks etc.

[Motorsagmannen]

have encountered a strange thing since the updated rankings came out.
i cant select gamemode or track
when i click game mode this appers:
ALL
SPEED
RACE
ZONE
and when trying to select track i get this:
ALL
FORWARD
REVERSE
ZONE
none of these buttons do anything so i wondered what is the reason.

edit: i use opera btw. but never had any problems until after the update.

[Connavar]

Get the Opera 10.0 version, the problem will be gone.
It's a bug in Opera itself, even well documented on their own bug tracking page.

Oh yeah, pirhapac, about Internet Explorer logging you out
(well I assume you're using IE right?)

1)
You need to enable cookies, go to:
Internet Options => Privacy => Accept Cookies

OR

2)
Add the website to the list of trusted sites!!

Then the site will work fine.

[Motorsagmannen]

ok thanks. that explains alot lol

EDIT: problem solved :beer

[Darkdrium777]

You need to do the Detonator template :mad:

:p

[superpj1]

Safari, Opera, etc. maybe be great browsers but it makes sense to optimize the site for the browser that people use the most, ie IE ;)

[Lance]

Wouldn't making it a little easier for people to keep using crap just prolong the existence of crap?

[blackwiggle]

Yeah,I don't have a spare 45 minutes waiting for IE to load [slight exaggeration] ,haven't used it in years since I got put on to Firefox.

[superpj1]

Wouldn't making it a little easier for people to keep using crap just prolong the existence of crap ?

that's your opinion. you don't like ie, other people do (I do).

[sny]

Safari, Opera, etc. maybe be great browsers but it makes sense to optimize the site for the browser that people use the most, ie IE ;)

Actually, as of this summer, Firefox is the most used browser, not IE. :)

[Connavar]

superpj, actually it's not even an opinion, it's a fact, i'm not even talking about
the IE interface (which I find crap <= opinion), but simply about its speed
and compliance, which IS crap. Do you realize that IE is so slow that even if
you used a 20GHz pc (if that existed), it still wouldn't render pages as fast
as the other browsers on a 2GHz pc, and anyway, the rendering would be
wrong!

[superpj1]

I've noticed some people turn aggressive when we talk about IE. No need to convince me that it's crap, I like it and it works correctly on my PC ;) Now I didn't want to launch a debate pro/anti IE.

[sny]

You're right, we shouldn't turn this into a browser-epeen contest, but just to defend Connavar's approach to making the ranking site: if you've done web design and web programming in the past 5 years, you'd understand our frustration towards IE. The amount of lines of code you needed to add to make your site appear using IE just like it does on browsers with better (X)HTML 1.1 and CSS 2.0 compliance is just ridiculous.

Connavar's doing this project in his spare time, so any additional time he has to spend on workarounds for non-compliant browsers means adding new stuff or fixing existing features takes a hell of a lot more time before it gets to us (not to mention the frustration testing all of this on every non-compliant browser means).

That being said, IE 8.0 is finally a step in the right direction, when it comes to W3C standards compliance.

[Connavar]

I haven't noticed any aggressivity!?
I just countered you when you talked about "opinion", by clearly showing it's
more than just an opinion.

Now I don't care about what browser you use, you're free to do so, the one
thing I do care is, when people experience problems on my site, it's 90% of the
time IE users, like you, and it's rather annoying to have spent time to make a
website that fully works on all the browsers with intended looks etc, only to
see it behave in a completely different manner on IE, and then fixing bugs for IE
involves a multitude of TRICKS, make a longer and worse code even, it's
incredible...

It actually takes me more time to make the site work correctly with IE, than
adding many more useful features to it... at some time I'll just give up fixing
those!

EDIT: thanks sny, you explained it perfectly!

[djKyoto]

Internet Exploder 8.

[blackwiggle]

Only with WINDOWS 7.

It cut's the crap that previous IE7- beta 8 had to go through to load.

[Lance]

sheesh. All I did was say: "What about Opera?" :D

[andybob35]

Am I the only noticing something fishy with racing times online lately? Or are these fury ships worth 20 seconds a lap?

Multiplayer/vemon/vinetaK/forward/1.14.48 and 15.08 a lap im sorry but thats a load of :turd:turd:turd

even problemsolver has a 1.17.05 on anulpha same settings? i know he doesnt cheat surely....:! screwed up my index's oh well

(oh and chrome works well with the site!)

[XBARNSTERX]

Yeah i noticed them times too, definitely glitched times.:?

[Connavar]

Good news for the PLAYSTATION 3 browser, I checked its capabilities on this
page: http://design215.com/browser2.php, and apparently it can do a lot of
things! Just my javascript library doesn't seem to be working, but I could make
a more simple version for the PS3 only I guess...

[superpj1]

Am I the only noticing something fishy with racing times online lately? Or are these fury ships worth 20 seconds a lap ?

Multiplayer/vemon/vinetaK/forward/1.14.48 and 15.08 a lap im sorry but thats a load of :turd:turd:turd

It's weird, the problem seems to be only on Venom class (Flash, Rapier and Phantom are OK, at least for the multiplayer mode). Hope SL will clean the leaderboards asap.

[Connavar]

Good that it's only Venom, they've polluted all the rankings, but at least
it's rather easy to filter them based on the speed lap ...
Wow ProblemSolver got a #2 on multiplayer/metropia/venom:
1.20.54 / 19.64
(speed lap record is 28.34)

[Darkdrium777]

ProblemSolver plays something with the name not containing the word "Zone?"
I'm confused.

[PLazarou]

I'm still trying to understand how this ranking system works...

Not trying to demean Connavar's great efforts here but... surely if SL just made the Records menu in the game available on a website, and adjusted their ranking system to account for all records rather than just online play time, this site wouldn't be necessary?

I mean... this site relies on people's honesty, as well as their ability to accurately (and regularly) input data. If SL just dumped all of the Records on a website, that updated automatically like it does in the game, surely this would be a much fairer and more accurate system?

Or am I missing something here...

[sny]

The benefits you get from using this site (for me at least) are:

a.) glitched times and scores are deleted if they are obviously impossible (lap times of 14.xx on venom class, or race times of under a minute).

b.) the wonderful Matrix feature lets you know in a plain, unmistakable way which tracks I need to improve my time on. Just generate a matrix (for either score or rank) and check where you're ranked low or score few points on, and go for that track. It helped me improve a lot in a short amount of time.

c.) You can't use various sorts in the in-game records tables and only a limited amount of filters are available. It takes much longer to get the info for questions like "what rank am I on this and this track among only Goteki 45 pilots?" in-game.

[PLazarou]

I'm sure SL would also be perfectly capable of removing these glitched times if they decided to host a site like this.

And they'd be able to add all these wonderful filters etc.

My main concern with this site is the reliance on user input. It really makes no sense to me that the official, accurate times are viewable in the game, but we have to make do with an unofficial, (probably) inaccurate, and incomplete set of times outside of the game.

[Darkdrium777]

That's the thing that makes this place so great. Everyone here is honest and understands the importance of being honest (Except maybe one person, but that's old history and has been solved since, and wasn't related to Connavar's site.)

[PLazarou]

Well that's good to hear, but I'd still like to see something official, that doesn't require constant user updates. And considering that feature is essentially already in the game... surely it wouldn't take too much effort to put it on a site...

Has anyone from SL discussed this topic?

[Lance]

How much effort is too much? Too much by whose standards? And who's doing the work? ;)

[PLazarou]

Well what I mean is... they already have the system up and running within the game. To transfer that data to a site wouldn't take very long. (Certainly a lot faster than manually inputting each time like Connavar's site!)

Ok so it would take a bit of time to get it up to the design quality of SL's products, but once it was up and running, it would require very little maintenance as it updates itself.

[Darkdrium777]

Except you would have the asshat Uberlander and his friends including "KingOfAllZones" at the top of the Anulpha Pass Zone leaderboard instead of ProblemSolver, Kingheim and all the others.

Is that really what you want?

[PLazarou]

Haha. I'd not looked at those before. Well it's quite clear from the number of Perfect Zones that all of those guys have found some kind of cheat. It's something that SL should patch out, and as I say, these kind of obvious errors can (and should) be easily removed from a ranking system.

[Darkdrium777]

Yeah. Look at Connavar's site now. See them anywhere?
That's my point.

FYI: The Zone cheat is already patched.

[PLazarou]

Oh right. Well I dunno why SL haven't removed the offending records then... but what I'm saying is, they could easily remove them if they were going to do an official ranking site, and everyone would be happy.

[shapealot]

hi connavar

ive set some speed laps that havnt updated on the official rankings page in the game i was wondering wether or not to enter them on your site as id have no proof online

just wondered where i stand

i can show XBARNSTERX as he lives right by me or take pics of my personals

thanx :)

[Connavar]

Just add the stuff!

[shapealot]

thanx :rock

ive bin dying 2 do some sl/tt for ages but the board not updating put me off

[yeldar2097]

i've added mine. if i need to take pictures as proof i'll cry, there's SO MANY! :D

[RedScar]

Do you have the detonator part working? I'd gladly add the scores for it

[Effedieffe]

I'm sorry I did an error entering venom times instead flash :brickwall
Please delete my Single Race Flash times in Modesto Heights/Talon's Junction/The Ampliseum.
I tried to increase them but the program don't allow to do it.
Maybe a delete button for our own records should be a good idea.

[leungbok]

You can edit your times if you click on the date (and those of other pilots) ;)

[Effedieffe]

Yes I know, but the program permits only to decrease them not to increase.

[SaturnReturn]

I made a mistake too recently and Connavar has informed me a fix is on the way to allow us to edit and delete our own records.

[shapealot]

i added a time on the amphiseum forward flash SL, shoulda bin reverse sorry. ill take it off when we get that delete button.

ive just realised i hadnt changed the ship to icaras+ either

[yeldar2097]

Just a question: Is there a way to copy/paste a link to the website which will go directly to a specific part of the site? i.e. can i past a link somewhere which will go to Speed Lap - Overall Ranking etc.... ?

[Connavar]

This is a wanted feature, I just need to know where to put that "link" button...

[SaturnReturn]

That'll be a golden feature, as it will mean I can set overall rankings as the first page it comes up with when I go there, from which point it shall become my homepage. :D

[tug_14]

yeldar, your time on amphiseum flash sl is fast , very fast ... very very fast :)

[yeldar2097]

woopsie daisy, should be 34.xx not 24.xx :paperbag

[superpj1]

lol I was wondering is there was a forward Amphi-scenic route ! :g

[XBARNSTERX]

Still a fast time without the mistake, ripping my hair out trying to catch up:beer

[superpj1]

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