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QirexAAX
13th January 2008, 02:43 PM
Dogg, while I agree that the Triakis probably isn't the ideal ship for that (I can't actually tell what I'm looking at) the detail looks really intricate and impressive regardless, could you post some images of it closer up?

lunar
13th January 2008, 03:00 PM
Dogg, I think it`s a great skin and definitely worth pursuing.

CR4SH3D
13th January 2008, 03:25 PM
//dogg
i agree it looks great but the surfaces are too small to make out what it is :(

Dogg Thang
13th January 2008, 03:35 PM
Yep, you're right. I initially chose a Triakis because I hadn't done one before and also I love the section around the engine at the back and thought that could be really dirty. But, yeah, the surfaces are too small and that shine took away all of the texture I was trying to get with it. So, before spending all the time matching the joins and so on, I just thought it would be better if I used the idea on another, more suitable, skin. Probably another Qirex or Goteki or possibly go the Feisar/EG.X route.

Another thing I'm finding is that, probably due to all the light sources affecting the ships, dark ships don't seem to look as good as bright ships. They look great on the tracks with bright light (Moa Therma) but the details vanish on the darker tracks. I remember being quite disappointed with how my first Scorpion looked in-game.

Anyway, lessons being learned. Here's what that Triakis looks like from the skin editor - http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/DoggThang/SamaelDetail.jpg

CR4SH3D
13th January 2008, 03:39 PM
//dogg
nice, i see what you were trying to do now :)
how about what you try it on another craft, try painting pipes or something onto a layer under the 'grates' and see what that looks like, it would be good if you could see details like that through them

Dogg Thang
13th January 2008, 03:41 PM
Yeah that was what I was eventually hoping to get with this - like it was almost made from dirty metal flooring and infection was spreading out from the grates. Or into them. I hadn't decided!

CR4SH3D
13th January 2008, 03:43 PM
that would be awesome
maybe somthing like cracked pipes behind the grates and green radioactive stuff dripping down

thats a great idea you have

Ricanebleu
13th January 2008, 03:57 PM
My God man it look fantastic, you can't compare it with no other ship but AXX feisar, but why give up ???
Have you seen CR4SH3Ds site lately? It is full of AGs Faisars, Qirexes and Gotiki. Even Mirage, which hasn't yet been relised has a skin. But no Triakis. Not even one. I was even considering uploading my own BlueGrin jut that Triakis would have at least 1 skin.
Pleeease don't give up. You are wrong about your first dark red Scorpion Piranha. It looks far better then the second. I have no idea if you intended for it to look like the F5000 Pirhana prototipe but you actualy made the new shape of this craft look like the one in the old days.
That Triakis shure doesn't deserve to die. Pleeeeease!!!! :brickwall
Hellfire, help me out here !!!!
And one more thing, if anyone finished Silent Hil 3, it would be impossible not to recognise the symbol and the silenthillish rust.

borell
13th January 2008, 04:06 PM
I have stuck to re-colouring the skin for AG Systems. The text on the front is AG-513. ;)

Monochrome versions:

http://metzuda.org/bright.jpg
http://metzuda.org/dark.jpg

Medusa
13th January 2008, 06:01 PM
Ohhh that is verry cool Dogg Thang. Love it. And I love your black/grey AGSYS, borell - I just don't know about the I for Y exchange in the logo though...oh duhhh! Sorry apparently my reading comprehension is rather pathetic today! Cool idea to toss in the S13!!

Egg
13th January 2008, 08:44 PM
i agree it looks great but the surfaces are too small to make out what it is :(
Yeah, we avoided too much fiddly detail because those large splashes of camo-colour looked tonnes better on the skinny surfaces of the Triakis.

Kudos to Eddie Wainwright on the Graphic Design team, for laying that (and most of the others) out for me.

Dogg Thang
13th January 2008, 09:15 PM
The default Triakis skin looks great. Actually, it's only seeing it in the random pic on the homepage that has me appreciating just how great the Pure Triakis looks too.

Tough to skin in Pulse definitely. It's skinny but also the prong bits twist so what is straight on the basic texture image is not straight on the craft. It's certainly a challenge.

QirexAAX
13th January 2008, 10:08 PM
Well, I've tested it and tested it and it seems it's pretty much complete, so I've now uploaded my rusty Feisar to www.wipeout-skins.co.nr

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/wo_20080112_152831.jpg (http://www.wipeout-skins.co.nr)

For reference, I just found the metal texture (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/b20metals015.jpg) I based some of it on.

Ash-Omen
13th January 2008, 10:31 PM
My goteki "The Sex mk 2" lol

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff12/AshOmen2007/wo_20080111_213451.jpg

Dogg Thang
13th January 2008, 10:31 PM
QirexAAX - Fantastic. Really amazing.

BARTgai
13th January 2008, 10:34 PM
Ash- is that legal? lol :p

Ash-Omen
13th January 2008, 10:36 PM
i dunno i think those girls r over 18 lol as for the weed well im so fast the police aint gotta chance :g

QirexAAX
13th January 2008, 10:49 PM
Thanks Dogg. I forgot to say I thought that Triakis skin you were doing looked really incredible close up. It's made me wonder what kind of skin actually would work on a Triakis, or rather would not look like it could be done better on a ship with larger surfaces....

Ricanebleu
13th January 2008, 11:39 PM
Well AXX, all i could say, I already did earlyer. It is probably the best looking skin made up to this moment.
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Dogg Thang anything I could say to change your mind?
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borell, i think the gray-white combination looks much better, maybe you could ...give it a more personal look.
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Ash........that Gotiki looks like it came from a TVshow like "PimpMyRide":rolleyes:

zargz
14th January 2008, 01:31 AM
a flag :)

http://geocities.com/zargz/wopics/cross.jpg

Dogg Thang
14th January 2008, 08:58 AM
It's made me wonder what kind of skin actually would work on a Triakis, or rather would not look like it could be done better on a ship with larger surfaces....

Good question. You should have a go and see what you think. Egg's camoflage seems to work well on it. Due to the shine, I think steering away from something that needs raised or lowered panels or deep textures are best avoided - which is why those metal panels I tried on the prongs just didn't work in-game at all. And because the prong textures twist a little, I think going for text would be tricky there.

Ricanebleu, I'll tell you what - when I get a bit of time this week (or the weekend), I'll patch the joins on that one and try to tart it up a bit and upload it so you can use it if you like.

CR4SH3D
14th January 2008, 09:44 AM
i got another idea, if the grates dont work out maybe try a translucent panel instead, that would be cool, similar to things like see through game boys etc, then it wouldnt matter so much if it warped and you could still put pipes etc behind it, il have a quick go and do an example

//edit
Aka-sho from the jap fansite http://jp-wipeout.hp.infoseek.co.jp/ has just posted this skin on wipeout-skins, i dont know if hes a member here but i had to share it, its just awesome
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/742/akasho01highres01cc0.th.jpg (http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=akasho01highres01cc0.jpg)

you can download it here http://grekir.freehostia.com/wipeoutskins/4images/details.php?image_id=50&mode=search

zargz
14th January 2008, 11:18 AM
more flags - zargz' Legacy 8)

http://geocities.com/zargz/wopics/flags.jpg

it's funny how a simple pixle will be perceived as a star! :D

hmm .. I should add a thai flag there as well ..

Dogg Thang
14th January 2008, 11:26 AM
Yeah, I saw Aka-sho's skin. Really lovely. I love the use of the classic AG logo.

Medusa
14th January 2008, 02:17 PM
Nice new skin, zargz! Won't be quite as scary mid-race as the green machine, though. Sometimes refinement takes a bit of the shock value away.

GTAce
14th January 2008, 02:45 PM
Hey guys i dont own a PSP and the game but saw how easy it is to make own skins, so i made one and hope it works.
Its themed like the Gulf paintings from real race cars:
http://xs123.xs.to/xs123/08031/gulfcraftscreen608.png

I clicked on "publish" (or whatever it is in english, i use the German site), so dont know if you can download it or not....

zargz
14th January 2008, 04:59 PM
Nice new skin, zargz! Won't be quite as scary mid-race as the green machine, though. Sometimes refinement takes a bit of the shock value away.yeh, you are right .. I feel if people don't pay attention they'll se it just as the standard skin :?
so if there are too many assegais in the race I change to zi Green.
also if I get bored of this one :D

I'll try to change the back a bit so at least I can see it's different.
but also pilots behind me 8) hehe

ZenDJiNN
14th January 2008, 05:55 PM
Hey GTAce - I like the AG-Sys skin that you made. Nice colours, and really clean looking! Well done. :)

GTAce
14th January 2008, 06:17 PM
Thanks, do you use it in the game? Want to know if it works, because i like to know if i messed something up (which happens alot LOL).

Ricanebleu
14th January 2008, 06:23 PM
Dogg Thang, you’ll do that for me ? ….(joy tears start falling)….Oh, thank you, thank you….I’m sure you won’t regret it. You’ll see.
At this moment IMO the best 2 crafts ever made are AXX Faisar and Samael Silent Hill Triakis. I can’t make up my mind which one I like most but I suppose since I love Triakis …
…..I can’t believe: my favorite game is now a skin for my favorite team :hyper

Dogg Thang
14th January 2008, 08:59 PM
Heh, cheers. I felt your Triakis loss so, as well as trying to finish that other one at some point, I threw this together. I'm calling it the Triakis Crystal. It's blingin'.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/DoggThang/Crystal.jpg

See a bigger side view here - http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/DoggThang/SideCrystal.jpg

I'll post it on the skins site in the morning.

CR4SH3D
14th January 2008, 09:22 PM
wow thats impressive!!! :D

GTAce
14th January 2008, 09:53 PM
God damn. oO
I need to learn how to make so precise graphics.
The DuPont skin i uloapded on CR4SH3D website looks like it has half the resolution from this one, damn nice work, im jealous. 8 )

EDIT: Just for the comparison:
http://xs123.xs.to/xs123/08031/dupontcraftscreen264.png

q_dmc12
15th January 2008, 02:03 AM
oh guys now that i've found the right thread here is is again

if you see this oine coming for ya you'll be hering "we are the borg resistance if futile you will be assimilated"

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3451/wo20080113112711yc4.jpg

Nice, looks like the matrix:o

Lion
15th January 2008, 04:30 AM
having raced against a bunch of custom skins online, I've come to the conclusion that if you want in-race recognition of your ship, then using very few colours is the way to go.
if your skin has more than one main colour, then the colours need to be in big chunks
Zargz' green machine is a great example. I see that colour, and I know that it's zargs that just shot me and flew past. But I have never noticed his name or any other details on the sides while racing.
I've put a lot of effort into some of the skins I've made, but for in-game effect it's been mostly wasted. :(
I've taken to racing AG-Sys online, and the skin I am using is the simplest one I have made so far (http://helix.net.nz/~lion/Pictures/WipEoutZone/agsimple.png). But for in-race recognition I think it's probably the best :)

the only reason there's any details on this at all (the coloured panels, lines, and the ag logos) is that I couldn't bring myself to race a ship that was so plain :P

Ricanebleu
15th January 2008, 09:11 AM
Dogg Thang!?!!.....:eek....:eek.....:eek....:eek where on Earth did you came up with the idea? It looks hypnotizing. In game it feels like the jet beam behind the craft is consuming the ship itself, like ice burning or something. Truly beautiful special effect. Still, Samael looks far more impressive :hyper

I have begun to work on a new project for Triakis based on the Metal Gear but with just the online editor the progress is slow and far from what I had in mind. Soon I’ll upload some pictures.
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GTAce, I liked the Gulf AG a lot more
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Lion you might be right, still the colour can be shaped isn’t it ? Like your Qirex2097 or Dogg Thang’s Crystal Triakis. I mean it doesn’t have to be flat simple. I like it dough

Dogg Thang
15th January 2008, 09:20 AM
Where it came from was me just trying to work out what might work with the shininess of the Triakis rather than against it. I thought if I went with something light and glass-like, the shiny bits might look sparkly and highlight it.

Lion
15th January 2008, 09:34 AM
I wasn't putting forth a rule, I more intended it to be seen as a tip for making a skin that stands out in game.
I still like my 2097 qirex, but in game it's just the dark purple qirex.
the ag I made is another red and white ag, but the shapes are large and different enough from the default that they are obviously a different ship.
certain patterns would work...
a Union Jack ship for example is always gonna look like a Union Jack.
a Stars and Stripes ship would need the different colours used in the right places to work well.
if I made an New Zealand flag ship, it would just be a blue ship with red bits.
it's all too do with the intricacy of the design

having realised that. I now see two different target uses for a skin.
the race-car paintjob. which is not necessarily pretty. but stands out from the crowd.
and the pretty ones, which are more impressive in screenshots, but aren't as clear in game.
just like the real world really :P

CR4SH3D
15th January 2008, 09:52 AM
//lion
good point, i do love that ag sys though ;)

zargz
15th January 2008, 11:34 AM
yeh, great point, Lion!


I've put a lot of effort into some of the skins I've made, but for in-game effect it's been mostly wasted. :(
zargz' green machine is a great example. I see that colour, and I know that it's zargz that just shot me and flew past. But I have never noticed his name or any other details on the sides while racing.

the Only place, ingame (and when I say ingame i mean IN game - not in the lobbys Player Info screen
where you Only can see the right side of the ship, which should go in another thread),
where you can take a look at the skins is on the start grid - looking forward and also using the back view.
what you'll see is a highly pixalated skin with no details what so ever ..
so that's why I went for the Huge font on my Go-reeno Massi-no :D


I've taken to racing AG-Sys online, and the skin I am using is the simplest one I have made so far (http://helix.net.nz/~lion/Pictures/WipEoutZone/agsimple.png). But for in-race recognition I think it's probably the best :)your Simplest One look awesome! :+

suspicion of photshop use there -
that smooth transition from red to white couldn't possibly be done on the online editor :p


the only reason there's any details on this at all (the coloured panels, lines, and the ag logos) is that I couldn't bring myself to race a ship that was so plain :P the Vanity! http://geocities.com/zargz/leenden/lol.gif

also on the left side of my new assegai skin I got another nick of mine, pav, writen with a Huge font
and a yellow cross on a blue background - the swedish flag (for the ignorant of the fact :))
that imo isn't big enough to be easily seen online.
though I got at least one confirmation, from emwu, that he've seen it! :D
which was prob'ly on the start grid.

http://wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=78538&postcount=520

the name and especially the flags on the right side,
which you can see from the lobby and even there they are too small to see good,
I doubt that you can ever see in game .. :?

http://wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=78560&postcount=523

although I've made the blue a bit darker I'm worried that other racers online will just see it as another assegai .. :?

Ricanebleu
15th January 2008, 11:45 AM
Lion, I see your point, and of course you are right. But your Qirex is not just purple.You recognize it is the old 2097 pattern because of the black shadows on it. Supposing the original Pulse purple Qirex, your2097 and a simple flat design purple one are side by side in game. The flat one won’t look much different from the original because the color is almost the same. But the 2097 most certainly will draw the attention ( a thing that can be used even as a tactical advantage as the concentration of the other pilot will focus for a sec on the ship instead on the track.)

Also you said that you added the lines and the AG logo just so it wouldn’t be plain simple. AG logo is not so personal. Let us take Zargz Green Machine for example. It was simple, Green, with no logo of the Assegai team. But the grayish shadows on the edges, the rough look, and mostly the eliminations counter on the side of it sure gave it a …soul, a personality, it made it unique, aggressive.

The look of the craft has to appeal both to the pilot as to its rivals. In game I don’t see the blood stains on the nose of my glider, but knowing is there makes me feel like… …. ….”We are Triakis!”. The neon glowing “Triakis” on the side of the ship, the ‘wipeoutzonezone’ logo or the shark on the other side is recognizable enough and also it adds to the ship personality.

I haven’t went yet online but from the ad-hoc races it seems I recive “verry nice apelatives” after I lay some mines in the nose of the other craft so …I suppose it is not just “a blue ship” :))
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Zargz, really man the green one looks much more personal, no offence

zargz
15th January 2008, 11:53 AM
none taken , Ric! 8)
that's what I figured my self ..

I've changed the counter a bit, insted of Kills I put there Elim.
influenced by Medusas complaint about 'kills' in the elim. mode

also added one more 'scratch' to it :D

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looking at some old pics I noticed that first I had Kills written, then RIP and now Elim.
I think that will be the last change for zi Green 8)

exept for the ocasional added sratch now and then :D

Lion
15th January 2008, 12:39 PM
suspicion of photshop use there -
that smooth transition from red to white couldn't possibly be done on the online editor :pyes, I use an external editor.
it would be possible to get that effect in the flash editor though... it would just be a royal pain to get the dithering right.. This (http://helix.net.nz/~lion/Pictures/WipEoutZone/fade.png) is a magnification of a part of the rear.

Ricanebleu
15th January 2008, 12:40 PM
Take care of not becoming a scratch yourself Zargs, that wouldn’t be very pleasant, would it? :p
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//Lion : Yainks, I don’t think I could do that in Flash.

zargz
15th January 2008, 12:48 PM
This (http://helix.net.nz/~lion/Pictures/WipEoutZone/fade.png) is a magnification of a part of the rear. Lots of x-es! :eek


Take care of not becoming a scratch yourself zargz, that wouldn’t be very pleasant, would it? :p been there .. :(

GTAce
15th January 2008, 12:56 PM
GTAce, I liked the Gulf AG a lot more
Oh me too "a lot" isnt enough there. LOL
The DuPont one looks very shabby because i only worked a couple of minutes at it and just because i was bored.
But i will work at it today again. 8 )

Medusa
15th January 2008, 01:36 PM
"I've changed the counter a bit, insted of Kills I put there Elim.
influenced by Medusas complaint about 'kills' in the elim. mode "

Oooh, zargz - you're such a gentleman sometimes. I'd better race you again online sometime. Then you can probably add another scratch there!

I'm going to see if I can figure out how to use Serif PhotoPlus and make an okay-looking skin...maybe by the end of the year I'll have it sorted.;)

zargz
15th January 2008, 01:49 PM
may be just splash a Big Fat (white?) M there on the side of your red AG .. or KIT?

Oooh, zargz - you're such a gentleman sometimes. I'd better race you again online sometime.
Then you can probably add another scratch there!I'd never do that to a lady!!


here's the new elim. counter .. looks a bit empty .. :?
.. I think I'll try making the word elim. bigger to see how it looks
and so it can be read on the start grid :)

http://geocities.com/zargz/wopics/gm_leg/gm_ls_elim1.jpg


as for the cross on my .. Legacy ship 8)
I thik I'll takeaway the white thing between the cross and pav away
that way I can make the cross bigger, for the same reasons as elim. on the other ship.

http://geocities.com/zargz/wopics/gm_leg/leg_up1.jpg

yah .. wait and see

:D

CR4SH3D
15th January 2008, 01:57 PM
ooh zargz, great idea for you!
try making a digital elim counter :) then you only have to change the text in photoshop

zargz
15th January 2008, 02:08 PM
http://geocities.com/zargz/leenden/lol.gif good one, cr4sh3d!
but I need to the keep savage look --> http://geocities.com/zargz/leenden/pgr.gif

CR4SH3D
15th January 2008, 02:09 PM
haha fair enough then :P

GTAce
15th January 2008, 02:43 PM
Uploading this in a couple of minutes to wipeoutskins:
http://xs123.xs.to/xs123/08032/dupontcraftscreen166.png.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs123&d=08032&f=dupontcraftscreen166.png)
Looks better now eh?

CR4SH3D
15th January 2008, 03:23 PM
//gtace
yeah looks really cool now :)

zargz
15th January 2008, 04:17 PM
Looks better now eh?much better! :+

Dogg Thang
15th January 2008, 07:47 PM
For Ricanebleu - I think I've taken this as far as I can. I'm really happy with how it looks in the skin editor pics and it gets across what I was originally trying to get. It doesn't look as good in game unfortunately but it still looks okay. Hope you use it and enjoy it!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/DoggThang/SamPicSM.jpg

Here's a bigger version of that pic: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/DoggThang/SamPic.jpg

CR4SH3D
15th January 2008, 07:49 PM
//dogg thang
wow that looks amazing! did you put the lines around the grates to make them look indented?

GTAce
15th January 2008, 08:14 PM
Great work Dogg!!1

Here i made a simple Goteki one:
http://xs123.xs.to/xs123/08032/gotekicraftscreen621.png.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs123&d=08032&f=gotekicraftscreen621.png)
Uploading in a couple of minutes to wipeoutskins.

EDIT: When the site will load again...

Dogg Thang
15th January 2008, 08:16 PM
Yeah, I tried a bunch of different things with the grates, removing them and trying other types. My problem was that the shine on the Triakis really smooths them off in-game. Eventually, I ended up going back to the grates I liked originally and I just hope that highlighting brings sinks them in a little bit.

I like what you've done with the text, GTAce. Looks good!

CR4SH3D
15th January 2008, 08:22 PM
//gtace
yeah its up and down the server, i think its getting alot more traffic than im allowed on there, nice work though, the text show up well in game?

GTAce
15th January 2008, 08:23 PM
Thanks, its a simple Photoshop filter, there are a couple of them which lead to nice effects.

EDIT: Ah alright, dont know if the text shows up correct in the game lol, like i said, dont have a PSP.

Ricanebleu
15th January 2008, 10:42 PM
Dogg Thang,………..I’ve been thinking for over five minutes of some words that would express what I’m feeling right now. The thing is that ….I’m going to say just “Thank you!” because no words could express just haw much I love that Triakis and haw grateful I am for not giving up and finishing it just because I asked you to.
Yes I will use it up to the point where it will become my my personal skin and I believe many others will.
I guess I’m going to call it Cheryl after Harry Mason’s step daughter :)

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Dogg, I just remembered : in game, the flesh of the Silent Hill monsters was shiny, remember the face of the nurses ?, just as the Triakis does so it is even more true to the game, what if it is not made of rusted iron but rather rotten meat with metal interlaced? It is gorgeous:hyper
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GTAce , yes it looks better, much better , and the goteki is a nice idea, but I believe the golf is still your best skin so far.

GTAce
15th January 2008, 10:56 PM
Yeah the Gulf one has the advantage of the colors.
Its one of my favorite color combinations.

My next project:
http://xs123.xs.to/xs123/08033/harimaucraftscreen887.png.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs123&d=08033&f=harimaucraftscreen887.png)
Still work in progress.

q_dmc12
16th January 2008, 04:21 AM
Here it is ...unfinished, I am now realizing how unfinished this is as I was not going for the bowling pin look. :p
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3804/agdmcletsbefriendsrk1.jpg47KB

Some other angles if you're curious:

Live the dream (http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/246/agdmclivethedreamau1.jpg)

Top Right Front (http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/4716/agdmctoprightfrontbo9.jpg)

Right Rear (http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8823/agdmcrightrearpb3.jpg)

Top Front (http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1000/agdmctopfrontmz9.jpg)

EDIT: doesn't look all that bad (bowling pin-esque) in dimly lit areas

Lets Be Friends (http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3512/wo20080116021652au0.jpg)

A closer look/The Flags (http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/835/wo20080116021458qm7.jpg)

another 1 (http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/5206/wo20080116021356zy5.jpg)

Another 2 (http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/28/wo20080116021548cq7.jpg)

Frances_Penfold
16th January 2008, 04:44 AM
Nice design, DMC. I was playing around with something similar (mostly white AGS)-- New York folks must think alike :)

As others have said in this thread, I think simple designs-- in particular, designs that emphasize bright, solid colors-- work best practically for identifying racers on the courses. It's really fun to see the more complex designs as reprinted here, or as seen before races in the menu screen... but only the bright solid colors show up well during actual races.

It has been asked previously, in another thread, but I have yet to see a response-- has SL indicated whether skins for concept ships and zone ships will eventually be availabe? I'd love to have one for the zone ship in particular :)

q_dmc12
16th January 2008, 05:54 AM
actually its an off-white, I tried to find the closest I could to a metalic (stainless steel ;)) texture/color.

In fact, its an extremely light pink

Dogg Thang
16th January 2008, 06:02 AM
Dogg, I just remembered : in game, the flesh of the Silent Hill monsters was shiny, remember the face of the nurses ?, just as the Triakis does so it is even more true to the game, what if it is not made of rusted iron but rather rotten meat with metal interlaced?

Yes, you're right! The nurses in SH2 had a shine that is actually very similar to the Triakis. So maybe it works after all. Really glad you like it!

zargz
16th January 2008, 11:33 AM
A closer look/The Flags (http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/835/wo20080116021458qm7.jpg)more flags huh? http://geocities.com/zargz/leenden/slz.gif

2nd is the states, 3rd - holland. what's the 1st flag?


btw http://www.flags.net/ ;)

q_dmc12
16th January 2008, 11:34 AM
Friesland (http://www.flags.net/country.php?country=NETH&section=CURR&category=SUBN#NETH0102):rock

zargz
16th January 2008, 03:04 PM
just raced a guy online, Lagua52, he's got a cool qirex skin - rainbowish :D

GTAce
16th January 2008, 07:47 PM
The 2097/XL soundtrack gave me some inspiration:
http://xs123.xs.to/xs123/08033/harimaucraftscreen2233.png.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs123&d=08033&f=harimaucraftscreen2233.png)
Still not finished.

Frances_Penfold
17th January 2008, 02:24 AM
actually its an off-white, I tried to find the closest I could to a metalic (stainless steel ;)) texture/color.


Very cool-- looking more closely, I can tell the difference!



In fact, its an extremely light pink

Don't worry, your secret is safe with me!

q_dmc12
17th January 2008, 05:06 AM
Well, I think that this is as good as its going to get - I am very happy with the result:

9KB
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9563/agdmctoprearrighter9.jpghttp://img525.imageshack.us/img525/5954/agdmctopfrontleftwl4.jpg8KB
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4672/agdmcrearhf2.jpg6.3KB

Some more ingame shots:

AG-DMC 01 (http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3021/agdmc01ao6.jpg)

AG-DMC 02 (http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8010/agdmc02wf2.jpg)

AG-DMC 03 (http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2045/agdmc03ml4.jpg)

AG-DMC 04 (http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7958/agdmc04vz5.jpg)

zargz
17th January 2008, 10:33 AM
I see you've got even scotland, england and ireland there! :D

with this color scheme you will stand out on line for sure!

8)

q_dmc12
17th January 2008, 01:13 PM
i had those flags on the previous posts, but yes I figured I would really personalize it with my national backgrounds. :)

ZenDJiNN
17th January 2008, 01:30 PM
Nice skin q_dmc12. Love the colours, and really works well on the AG-Sys. Nice pix too.... Amphiseum works really well for those great Jump shots doesn't it? :g

q_dmc12
17th January 2008, 01:33 PM
Yes, very much so - it is my new favorite track. I am suprised how well it plays in the phantom class.:nod

QirexAAX
17th January 2008, 10:13 PM
Here's a skin I made for CR4SH3D, with a lot of his guidance and creative input. I won't be publishing it, since it's personalised and CR4SH3D's to do with as he sees fit.

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/wo_20080116_230356.jpg

More pictures:
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/wo_20080116_230549.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/wo_20080116_230935.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/wo_20080116_193018.jpg

GTAce
17th January 2008, 10:18 PM
Nice, very clean!
Respect for that work but im still astonished how you make it look high res.
Is it possible to change the resolutuion of the original skin?
I know that it works in Live for Speed but not sure here.

QirexAAX
17th January 2008, 10:25 PM
Nope, I think you just get to learn tricks to smooth off edges and stuff, and also get to grips with the limits of what kinds of things you can and can't actually achieve at the given resolution. If you look on a couple off the dividing lines between panels on the body, they're actually really blocky and were causing me a few problems, but by significantly reducing the contrast between the highlights and lowlights, they sort of merged much more convincingly.

Also, the way the textures are rendered in game is slightly more sophisticated than how they are in the editor, somehow - I don't know how it works. So skins always look better in game or in the Save? [ Y / N ] screen than in the main editor.

zargz
17th January 2008, 10:29 PM
looks to me that if you do it ofline the huge pixles of the online editor magically disappear! :?

QirexAAX
17th January 2008, 10:33 PM
Well, however you edit a skin offline, the huge pixels still come right back when you paste it into the online editor :naughty

zargz
17th January 2008, 10:35 PM
still you can smooth out the lines, more than online :p

QirexAAX
17th January 2008, 10:40 PM
Well, you can do that, but I've so far found that doing any fancy stuff using image editing software ends up using up a lot of your 16 colours on smooth shading.

EDIT: To bring this back onto the topic of skin posting, here's a quick W.I.P. of a wip3out Feisar that I'm working on.

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/wo_20080117_222918.jpg

zargz
17th January 2008, 10:51 PM
that's true.
However, the online editor will never get as good results as photoshop, which is my point.

edit:

it looks great

GTAce
17th January 2008, 10:59 PM
Also, the way the textures are rendered in game is slightly more sophisticated than how they are in the editor, somehow - I don't know how it works. So skins always look better in game or in the Save? [ Y / N ] screen than in the main editor.Sure because of the motion in that scene and in-game.
In the game it gets blurred a bit just like in that Y/N screen so you cant see the bloggy stuff.

By the way:
http://xs123.xs.to/xs123/08035/harimaucraftscreen3587.png.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs123&d=08035&f=harimaucraftscreen3587.png)
Just wanted to upload it on wipeout-skins but the site is down atm.

EDIT: Its up there now!

BARTgai
17th January 2008, 11:24 PM
well i did notice in the editor, that some of the colors on the FEISAR craft are different than they are in-game (ie. the reds that are in the game are a dark yellow in the editor )

also QirexAAX, the Wip3out Feisar looks very nice :g :+

q_dmc12
18th January 2008, 01:14 AM
Here's a skin I made for CR4SH3D, with a lot of his guidance and creative input. I won't be publishing it, since it's personalised and CR4SH3D's to do with as he sees fit.

there was a pic here - saving bandwidth

More pictures:
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/wo_20080116_230549.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/wo_20080116_230935.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/wo_20080116_193018.jpg

WOW!:o Did you use photoshop to make this? The pinwheel is in great detail!:)

BARTgai
18th January 2008, 01:38 AM
well, i decided to dig up my old Wip3out-ish FEISAR and do a little more work on it. still need to fix little errors with the seams and whatnot

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9808/w3f2zl5.jpg

zargz
18th January 2008, 01:46 AM
nice job! :+

Medusa
18th January 2008, 01:46 AM
That's a really beautiful AG-SYS. I look forward to racing CR4SH3D in it online!!

sakerbax
18th January 2008, 02:17 AM
hey, i was looking at the awesome skins posted on this topic, and felt the need to make a new one..

im kind happy with how it looks but at the same time if feels empty, please tell me what you think and ideas on how to improve.

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5523/wo20080118025308dc7.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/1599/wo20080118025354xx4.jpg

notice it's not pure white i gave it some shadows to make it look like the jigsaw pieces had depth (it works better ingame but on the second picture you can see it more or less..)

also while i was looking at the photo folder i found this one that i took by mistake of my eg-x and it looks cool :dizzy

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5905/wo20080117211754sc2.jpg

zargz
18th January 2008, 02:27 AM
how to improve? --> http://wipeoutzone.com/forum/announcement.php?f=22

the jigsaw AG looks great, I wouldn't change too much.
may be put an AG logo or your nick on the side. 8)
perhaps on the big piece of jigsaw on the left side under the cockpit?

sakerbax
18th January 2008, 02:59 AM
oops tottaly forgot about that.. edited the post,,

50k is really small,, i guess i could compress the jpgs a little more but not today.. the whole upload process is boring =)

CR4SH3D
18th January 2008, 03:06 AM
//medusa
ii love it too, but dont race me late at night, im wasted and got beaten on venom >_<

//sakerbax
maybe add some peneling type effect to make out the crafters details a little bit more rather than having a solid looking hull

q_dmc12
18th January 2008, 05:04 AM
hey, i was looking at the awesome skins posted on this topic, and felt the need to make a new one..

im kind happy with how it looks but at the same time if feels empty, please tell me what you think and ideas on how to improve.

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5523/wo20080118025308dc7.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/1599/wo20080118025354xx4.jpg


maybe the puzzle is an image of a world map or topography...;) you'll figure it out

GTAce
18th January 2008, 12:24 PM
@sakerbax: I think it looks empty because you painted over all the details (little arrows, logos etc.).
I need a higher res pic from the skin to give you some tips. ;)
But overall it looks great!

Ricanebleu
18th January 2008, 02:26 PM
AXX, I sure know you and CR4SH3D have finished a wonderful skin for the AG.
CR4SH3D must be very proud of his new baby. It seams to me that it is even better, and more Japanese-like design then the original one. Way to go! :clap

As for the Feisar it sure looks better then Bart’s (which wasn’t bad at all either).
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GTAce, nice combination of colors on that Harimau but I personally would rather try a different design instead of new colors

CR4SH3D
18th January 2008, 03:10 PM
//Ricanebleu
i love it :P im not even trying any other craft at the moment because i love seeing that skin
thats one hell of a compliment for qirexAAX since he did all the work, i just told him what id like to see untill it was right :) id love to see it in wip3out :P thats the style we were trying for

Dogg Thang
18th January 2008, 03:22 PM
Yep, it's a lovely skin. Great work as always, QirexAAX!

QirexAAX
18th January 2008, 06:37 PM
My Wip3out Feisar:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/wo_20080118_184909.jpg

I've tried to keep at as simple as possible and as close as I could to the original (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/wip3out.jpg), actually simplifying it so that it looked neat and clean and sort of cartoony.

Some more shots:
From above (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/wo_20080118_184732.jpg)
Nose detail (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/wo_20080118_184118.jpg)

It's not very showy but I'm pleased with the effect.

Ricane- I don;t think it's fair to say mine's better at all. I actually think BART's is a nicer looking skin, but mine is intended as a sort of replica skin whereas his is a sort of 'in the spirit of wip3out' design which, in my opinion, looks absolutely excellent.

EDIT: I just realised the Wip3out Feisar logo is not, as i believed it to be, the same as the Pulse Feisar logo. I've altered it on my skin but I can't be bothered to reupload a whole set of new pictures. Just imagine it's right.

Ricanebleu
18th January 2008, 07:18 PM
Wait a minute. I didn’t say Bart’s doesn’t look good. In fact I even have it in my collection of skins ( not to race online Bart, it is not for display but only as a collector’s item ok? don’t worry I’m not stealing it). But my point was that yours resembles the most to the original. I have a twisted desire to see the skins of the previous ships on the new ones. It would be like having them all available for the FX400.
Like in F1 when before the race an old model from the ’50 is driven by one of the pilots.
So in my opinion the best looking “remake” is the one that resembles the most to the original.
Come to think of it, it would be really nice if the old models of F3600, F5000, F7200 or F9000 would be available in additional packs.
And I believe everyone agrees with me that your Faisar has a level of detail that you don’t find in Bart’s one. Just as my BlueGrin’s Shark is not so well crafted as Lion’s.
See what I mean now?

QirexAAX
18th January 2008, 07:22 PM
Yeah, I do, and I thought that was probably what you meant, but I was a bit afraid Bart might have been offended ^_^

I'd like to do some more wip3out skins in the same style but Feisar was the only team I could find detailed images for other than AG-Sys, which is kind of impossible given the huge difference in shape between the wip3out and pulse AG-Sys ships. So if anyone has any, hand 'em over.

BARTgai
18th January 2008, 10:30 PM
its all fine Ricanebleu and QirexAAX :)

I like QirexAAX's feisar way more than my own. mine was intended to be mainly personal.

( i almost feel inspired to improve my own lol )

q_dmc12
19th January 2008, 07:18 AM
I am currently working on 2 more which I will publish, all I can divulge atm is one is all about vectors and the other a 'flag'ship...:coffee

Ricanebleu
19th January 2008, 07:57 AM
its all fine Ricanebleu and QirexAAX :)

I like QirexAAX's feisar way more than my own. mine was intended to be mainly personal.

( i almost feel inspired to improve my own lol )

Bart, I’m glad I haven’t offended you:rolleyes:. Usually I think that the truth can't offend ( but many times I found the opposite :|). To be completely honest I really like your Faisar but it doesn’t seam finished. After Lion published his Piranha Shark it gave me a lot of new ideas of haw to improve my own shark design. There is no shame in admitting that someone is better than you in doing something as long as you also did your best and you keep on improving:banzai.
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AXX, I’ll PM you with some photos for your Wip3out project. Let me know if they are good enough and I’ll send some more

GTAce
19th January 2008, 03:30 PM
http://xs123.xs.to/xs123/08036/agcraftscreen420.png.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs123&d=08036&f=agcraftscreen420.png)

Hffff.... i know the colors arent perfect but its still work in progress... a lot of work though.^^

Ricanebleu
19th January 2008, 03:52 PM
:eekMmmmm! Nice. Verry nice. Any chance for a blue 2 Chang AG :g ?

GTAce
19th January 2008, 04:09 PM
Yep, will make as many as possible from the F3600 series.
But first i will finish this one, takes a lot of time. 8 (

Dogg Thang
19th January 2008, 04:34 PM
Nice! I've been wanting to do this myself but I'm having a really hard time getting any reference material. I wanted to do one based on the WO1 Feisars.

zargz
19th January 2008, 05:04 PM
may be now 2blu (still working on a name :D) wll stand out more online?
meaning further away from the classic skin.

http://www.geocities.com/zargz/wopics/gm_leg/leg_r2.jpg

made the cross bigger on the left side

http://www.geocities.com/zargz/wopics/gm_leg/leg_up2.jpg

compared to

http://www.geocities.com/zargz/wopics/gm_leg/leg_up1.jpg

GTAce
19th January 2008, 05:13 PM
Here (http://grekir.freehostia.com/wipeoutskins/forum/index.php?topic=11.msg28#msg28) is an update.
I will make a break right now look at it in an hour or so and if im pleased, i will upload the skin.
Then i will make the Chan one, this isnt much work after this one.

Infected
19th January 2008, 08:45 PM
I just finished my new skin :hyper

HC-XX CORE
http://infected.nd.e-wro.pl/Wipeout/Core-02.jpg

Another better shot (http://infected.nd.e-wro.pl/Wipeout/Core-01.jpg)

I love it:D

GTAce
19th January 2008, 08:57 PM
Nice clean look, looks like real metal, cool.

Dogg Thang
19th January 2008, 09:09 PM
On a classic vibe now, here's an Assegai inspired by WO3's design -

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/DoggThang/W3OAssegaiSMa-1.jpg

QirexAAX
19th January 2008, 09:39 PM
Wow, Dogg and Infected, those are both really superb skins. I don't really know what else to say.

Ricanebleu
19th January 2008, 09:58 PM
Dogg Thang, glad I could help ;)…….and :eek :eek :eek chhhmhhh!!! I was just about to post it and :eek…….MAN IT LOOKS FANTASTIC!:rock
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GTAce, can hardly wait :hyper
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Zargz, nice way better then before but …..not better then the Green Machine. It still remains my favorite.:nod
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Infected, my oh my it smells like Adidas just started a new sponsorship :+ :clap

Rapier Racer
19th January 2008, 09:59 PM
Dogg that is a very nice skin indeed, we never got to race the evading blue Assegai, will your skin be available for downloading? I really want it! :hyper

Dogg Thang
19th January 2008, 10:16 PM
Yep, I just need to see if I can work out an issue I'm having with it in-game and then I'll pop it up for download.

GTAce
19th January 2008, 10:17 PM
http://xs123.xs.to/xs123/08030/agcraftscreen3250.png.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs123&d=08030&f=agcraftscreen3250.png)
I wanna know what you guys think.
That mechanic stuff or the brown stripe?
The problem is that in the original its mechanic stuff but darker, unfortunatly i cant make it darker then it looks like teh shite.^^
So PLEASE let me know. 8 )

EDIT: Just saw that the red "systems" is now golden,,, damn color limitation...
EDIT2: The "systems" is still golden but overall it looks better this way i think:
http://xs223.xs.to/xs223/08030/agcraftscreen4331.png.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs223&d=08030&f=agcraftscreen4331.png)

Dogg Thang
19th January 2008, 10:26 PM
Tough question. I can see the problem. I think because the shape is so different, I'd probably accept that its not going to look exactly like the original and I'd actually continue the yellow and green livery up there. That's just one view though.

GTAce
19th January 2008, 10:29 PM
When i make it just yellow it looks to plain and simple.

Ricanebleu
19th January 2008, 10:36 PM
Well I have your 2 versions and the original in game ship in front of me. It doesn’t seam to me either brown nor mechanic. In fact it is more like yellow with vertical stripes, which at some point it can be thought as mechanic. The thing is that your mechanic version seams somehow “glued”. I get a feeling that the 2 parts of the ship will break at the smallest pressure. The brown line gives some solidity to the ship I guess. Maybe something in-between? Or a more complex mechanic part ?

QirexAAX
19th January 2008, 10:53 PM
Well, nothing exciting here, but this is my version of the W3O Piranha. Again keeping it as simple as possible to match the style of my Feisar. The back end isn't very close because the models are so different.

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/wo_20080119_233957.jpg

Original Ship (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/SCES_01909_03112007_172614_0859.png)

EDIT: Just realised this isn't an up-to-date shot. There should be some darker sort of shading towards the nose but you'll have to imagine it as I can't be bothered to go and get more pics ^_^

Oh, and thanks to Ricanebleu for the reference images.

BARTgai
19th January 2008, 11:02 PM
ooohh, very nice :g

ZenDJiNN
19th January 2008, 11:06 PM
Infected// - Great job on that AG-Sys.... it looks fantastic! I imagine that it looks great "In Game"? :)

Dogg// - As usual, another great skin.... Great colours, well laid out, and i LOVE the logo at the back! :g

I'm getting the bug to go online & have a go again myself! :)

Ricanebleu
19th January 2008, 11:15 PM
Uuuuuu! Nice. Missa likessit! But I guess it can still be improved. Remember Dogg Thang’s first Scorpion Piranha? He used dark colors on the margins and in the end it created the illusion that the shape is much like the one in 2097, sleeker, thinner I don’t know haw to describe it. Maybe you could use some of that technique to create the illusion of a more 3ish “nose”.

GTAce
19th January 2008, 11:35 PM
http://xs223.xs.to/xs223/08030/agcraftscreen5840.png.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs223&d=08030&f=agcraftscreen5840.png)
http://xs223.xs.to/xs223/08030/agcraftscreen6490.png.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs223&d=08030&f=agcraftscreen6490.png)
Feedback? 8 )

QirexAAX
19th January 2008, 11:40 PM
Well, since you raised it, here is the up to date shaded version. I'm not quite sure what technique you were dexcribing Ricane, but this does very subtly suggest a nose closer to the original shape:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/piranha.jpg

EDIT: Since the jpg came out horribly, - HERE (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/piranha-1.png)'s the png

BARTgai
19th January 2008, 11:41 PM
GTAce, I like very much, but could use some more details

GTAce
19th January 2008, 11:55 PM
What details?
I cant add details from the normal AG because of color limitation and it doesnt fit and the original wipEout 1 craft doesnt have anything in this direction.^^

BARTgai
19th January 2008, 11:58 PM
by details, i mean like maybe worn effects and such, but i can understand if you cant with the color limitations

Ricanebleu
20th January 2008, 12:06 AM
GTAce:To me it definitely looks better. You could also come with the lateral stripes on the back sides
Here is the back of the original http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scus9430120012008024059np4.png http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scus9430120012008024059ms4.png
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AXX:Yes now it has the nose. You see is like you altered the physical shape. As for the technique I don’t know how he did it. I know nothing about photo-shop and this kind of stuff. All I can do is observe and describe what I see.
Here is the pic that I was talking
http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4333&page=19

in game you don’t see the dark border and so the shape of the craft looks close to this:
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1411/rwoxl00205slw4.th.png (http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rwoxl00205slw4.png)

here is an other pic that shows that effect
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/DoggThang/wo_20080104_221434.jpg

GTAce
20th January 2008, 12:31 AM
Sorry but i cant add the lateral stripes because than i must paint over the Dekka logo.
There is not enough space on the wings sorry.
Maybe im not good enough at Photoshop but its the best i can get now.
But i will make AG's #2 and then upload both on wipeout-skins how it looks right now.

Ricanebleu
20th January 2008, 12:54 AM
It looks great Ace, don’t worry. It was just a suggestion not a request. I still think it could be done as the side back wings have a back section+ a left section. The Dekka logo is on the left section. Also so far I count 5 colors. If you know how you could add some shades to give some density in the colors. ( Gjisz’ I’m such a critic like I would know so much, don’t mind me folks I’m just trying to help, not to criticize)
Thanks a million times for the “2”. It has been my first craft ( **nostalgic tears**)

GTAce
20th January 2008, 01:02 AM
Hey everything is fine man!
Im actually glad you suggest stuff like that because i always want to make the best i can, i have no problem with that at all, its exact the opposite. 8 )
Unfortunatly i must go to bed now (its 3 am here) but i will work more on both ships tomorrow (i couldnt imagine it will took so long for the rest of the work lol).

Dogg Thang
20th January 2008, 09:50 AM
I'm just seeing this now, GTAce, and I think what you've done with the stripes looks really good and is a great comprimise in that it works with the current shape of the ships. If it were me, I'd be happy with that!

QirexAXX - nice Piranha! It's really difficult when the shapes of the craft are so different and the front of the Pure and Pulse Piranha makes it very difficult to look like anything else so I think you've done a great job with it.

lunar
20th January 2008, 11:25 AM
GTAce, I really like the AG, but think the machinery back end is best. But then Dogg`s artistic judgement is a lot better than mine, so....

I had strange colour limiting problems with one skin, when importing into the editor, but got around this by letting photoshop limit it to 16 colours first, and it did a much more intelligent job than the editor. Then when taking it into the editor it didn`t alter it at all.

Also incredible skins from Infected, and Dogg and QirexAAX as we have come to expect now. ;)

Dogg Thang
20th January 2008, 11:42 AM
Anyone know what the little curvy bits at the bottom of the Assegai skin are for? I can't figure out what part of the craft they end up at.

QirexAAX
20th January 2008, 12:06 PM
They're the front and back faces of the engine casing.

Just try painting them in a really bright colour and they should be obvious.

Dogg Thang
20th January 2008, 12:21 PM
Ah okay. Got it now, thanks.

Edit: Oh, and here's that finished Assegai. As well as tidying up a few details and making it slightly brighter overall, I realised there was a nasty problem in-game. The stripes on the prongs, when seen in the default out of craft view, became less than one pixel thick and so flickered like crazy. It actually looked like a bug. So I had to find a way of solving that.

The only way I could avoid that completely was by making the stripes so thick they no longer looked like the WO3 craft at all. So I comprimised by pulling them back quite considerably and only slightly thickening them. They still shimmer a bit in the game but not as much. I guess it's more of a tribute piece than anything else though.

I'll be uploading it to the skins site straight after posting this for those who want it.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/DoggThang/W3OAssegai2sm.jpg


Another edit: Actually I'm having trouble getting into the skins site right now but I'll upload it as soon as I can.

One last edit: Got it up now.

zargz
20th January 2008, 12:39 PM
Looks great dogg, as always! :D

BARTgai
20th January 2008, 03:30 PM
very cool Dogg :+

i can understand having to compromise and mike the stripes thicker, but hey, i think it looks wonderful :)

QirexAAX
20th January 2008, 04:01 PM
Dogg, that's really awesome.

Here's the next of my W30 series, the Goteki45

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/wo_20080120_163426.jpg


Original Ship Design (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/SCES_02845_19012008_152419_0734.png)

And here (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/Wipeout3.png) is my current W30 ship progress.

I'm currently going for quantity over quality, and then I'm going to go back over them all when I'm done and touch them up a bit and make sure they have the same sort of style right through the set.

EDIT: I should mention BARTgai gave me a hand with some finishing touches on the Feisar. Thanks BART.

Dogg Thang
20th January 2008, 04:06 PM
The Goteki is perfect, QirexAAX, as is the Feisar of course. Their shapes are nicely similar to the W3O versions. We'll have the whole game replicated in no time!

Sausehuhn
20th January 2008, 04:47 PM
Wanted a WO3-AG-SYS, but I wanted it to match Pulse's style, so I just used the WO3 craft as a reference but added a lot more details. So now it's basically just another AG-SYS skin but with the WO3 logo on it.
I tried to modify the ship's surface a bit by adding more pipes and intakes so it's a bit different to the original shape.

Hope you like :)

AG-SYS WO3 editor (http://cybershot.cy.funpic.de/kram/sonstige_bilder/WipEoutZone/wipeoutPulse/ags-wo3-skin.jpg)
AG-SYS WO3 ingame (http://cybershot.cy.funpic.de/kram/sonstige_bilder/WipEoutZone/wipeoutPulse/ags-wo3-skin_ingame.jpg)

GTAce
20th January 2008, 04:49 PM
Wooo done, what do you guys think?
http://xs223.xs.to/xs223/08030/agf3600fleet155.png.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs223&d=08030&f=agf3600fleet155.png)
Adding other stuff would just lead in to a bad result.
And i saw today that its yellow around the numbers so i fixed this.

EDIT: And respect at your wip3out skins!

Medusa
20th January 2008, 07:58 PM
Oi, Sausehuhn!! Very nice! It really works well!

GTAce!! I love those! Really looks great! Are you going to publish those by any chance?

Ricanebleu
20th January 2008, 10:32 PM
GTAce, the ships look stunning. The vertical stripes works superbly. I guess I don’t have to say that, IMO, the Golf is no longer your best skin :p , and the “2” ….well, let us say it has the same effect Lion’s 2097 Qirex had.
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AXX, seeing the Goteki was enough shock, but seeing all the 3 ships in W3O style display is just too much. I don’t even have words to express my joy when I see the wonders that come out of your hands. Soon I won’t even notice it as it has become a habit: „Good job. What is next?”
The same goes to Dogg Thang, you just made me loose an entire hour out of my game progress, just for fooling around with your Assegai( :( it is most unfortunately dough that that compromise had to be made, a lot of that magnificent blue was lost).
CR4SH3D, maybe this kind of skins should be placed in a separated folder. In time wipeoutskins will become so thick that those recreated wonders will get lost between concepts. Just a thought.
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Sausehuhn, :( unfortunately I can’t see your AG. When I get on this type of links all I get is some advertising for online poker. Haw can I see it ?

GTAce
20th January 2008, 10:37 PM
Thanks guys, im glad you like it. 8 )
Hope it looks good in-game, would like to check it for myself.^^

EDIT: Oh and i dont get any ad on that links, if you have FireFox you should download the Ad Block Plus plug-in.

QirexAAX
20th January 2008, 11:00 PM
What's next? Qirex:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/wo_20080120_235220.jpg

Side detail (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/wo_20080120_235303.jpg)
Original Design (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/SCES_02845_19012008_153734_0453.png)

Saus, that AG-Sys looks really cool, and looks like it would fit into the game very convincingly.

GTAce, those vintage AGs look great. I've never actually played the first wipeout but they look nice regardless :D

EDIT: Or Click Here (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/WO3qirex.png) for Wip3out-style image

Ricanebleu
20th January 2008, 11:12 PM
How could you not love him !! :clap He makes them so fast, so good, so easy.
“Good job. What is next ?” ;)
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I use Opera, should I get any plug-ins GTAce?

GTAce
20th January 2008, 11:19 PM
Oh i have no ideas about Opera im sorry, using only FireFox (almost ad free surfing rules and its way faster than IE).
/offtopic

Great Qirex skin there, and thanks for all the Kudos for my AGs. 8 ) *sniff*

BARTgai
20th January 2008, 11:22 PM
Qirex, how on earth do you makes skins that good, that fast?

:)

QirexAAX
20th January 2008, 11:41 PM
Well, it's a mixture between not fussing too much about getting things exactly right at this stage, and also having plenty of time while looking giving the appearance of being hard at work.

Dogg Thang
21st January 2008, 07:58 AM
Huge thanks to Ricanbleu for proving the reference for this baby. Couldn't have done it without it. Accepting that the modern Feisar does not match the shape of the WO1 craft, I wanted to create a sort of tribute craft. Like this was made in Pulse era as a tribute to the classic.

I'm really happy with this one. It achieves many things in one, all thanks to the original WO1 colours. It is striking from a distance. It has details (like the slogan) that I enjoy just knowing are there and, most of all, it looks really good from the back, which is where I see most. So here it is -

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/DoggThang/RetroFeisarSM.jpg

Better image with back view here - http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/DoggThang/RetroFeisar.jpg

Ricanebleu
21st January 2008, 09:05 AM
:eek…..no, no , no! I’m not going to say any thing! ….but it’s SO beautiful :hyper
:dizzy aaa….ah, yes, will you also make the “8”? :clap Congrats once again for an other wonderful job. As fore your huge thanks, :redface: , don’t mention it, it was the least I could do as a sign of gratitude for not giving up the Silent Hill Triakis project.

QirexAAX
21st January 2008, 09:05 AM
Wow! Nice one Dogg. As you said really colourful and striking but with nice details to boot.

Dogg Thang
21st January 2008, 09:13 AM
Yes, I plan on doing the 8, Ricanbleu! I'm getting thoughts together on that now.

Rush25
21st January 2008, 11:59 AM
great odin's raven guys!!! these skins?! SENSORY OVERLOAD!!! :hyper

how do you people rock so hard?

Dogg Thang
21st January 2008, 12:23 PM
And just got the 8 done at lunch. Because this one is white, I ended up with an extra colour or two so got to put a couple of yellow lights on, which was nice. I don't think the Union Jack side worked as well as the slogan on the last one but I thought the idea was fitting.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/DoggThang/Feisar08SM.jpg

Here's a bigger pic - http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/DoggThang/Feisar08.jpg

GTAce
21st January 2008, 12:41 PM
Hey that was my next project. :P
Looks good man!

Ricanebleu
21st January 2008, 01:00 PM
Looks stunning and the idea of the Union Jack works just perfectly. One thing dough : if I wouldn’t know that the pilot is british I wouldn’t think of the UK flag.
Maybe you could bring it to look a bit more like this http://www.flags.net/UNKG.htm ? I guess you know what I mean.

GTAce
21st January 2008, 01:02 PM
http://wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?p=79134#post79134
You should first download this stuff for a original reference.
There are also all the original logos.

lunar
21st January 2008, 01:07 PM
I just love all this retro-beauty. I would be proud to fly Qirex AAX`s Goteki online, and would even consider giving AGS and Feisar a test-fly for those awesome retro skins by GTAce and Dogg. :clap

QirexAAX
21st January 2008, 02:02 PM
Well, not a skin, but it's related to a skin:

Here's a link to a totally over-produced history of my Rusty Iron Feisar skin (it's a pdf, the effort went into the presentation)

http://www.mediafire.com/?am1lnoxdcdn

To see the original Rusty Iron Feisar post:

http://wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=78409&postcount=486

Dogg Thang
21st January 2008, 02:13 PM
Ricanbleu, you're right about the Union Jack. I was originally going for the simplicity but it becomes pointless if people don't know what it is. So here's the revised version -

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/DoggThang/Feisar08aSM.jpg

Here's a bigger pic with front and back view - http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/DoggThang/Feisar08a.jpg

I think your iron Feisar is just wonderful, QirexAAX. One of my faves.

QirexAAX
21st January 2008, 02:16 PM
Nice work Dogg. It was ace already but the flag is definitely more recognisable now. As with GTAce's AG-Sys skins I can't appreciate it as much as I might, as I am totally unfamiliar with wipeout '1' but that doesn't make it look any less cool.

Dogg Thang
21st January 2008, 02:21 PM
Thanks QirexAAX! Do you think the flag needs red like this or does that dilute the idea? http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/DoggThang/Feisar08aRedSM.jpg

QirexAAX
21st January 2008, 02:24 PM
Absolutely not. For some reason with that red it looks a bit like a chav's trainer.

Medusa
21st January 2008, 02:25 PM
Don't do it!! Red and pink together is NEVER a good idea.:rolleyes:

Dogg Thang
21st January 2008, 02:26 PM
Cool, thanks! I think you're right.

Ricanebleu
21st January 2008, 02:34 PM
Yes that is much “britisher”. And no, the red is definitely not necessary. I had in mind only the shape of the flag . :+ Wonderful work Dogg Thang. :p
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REALLY beautiful presentation out there AXX. The last part can still be worked in terms of graphics, but I guess it is quite hard to make something look like 2208 isn’t it ? Also the label under the Future press statement still reads 2008. But these are just details. The story and the pictures are state of art. Superb job!

ZenDJiNN
21st January 2008, 11:07 PM
Dogg Thang - That Feisar is "Incredible"..... Kudos to you, and please keep on making these incredible skins, they're great just to look at, let alone race with! :)

GTAce - Great skins, and love the colours! They really suit the AG-Sys.

QirexAAX - As usual, teriffic skins, and wonderful colours! Nice one.

I don't know where you guys find the time but please keep on doing it! :g

CR4SH3D
22nd January 2008, 12:38 AM
did qirexaax get banned for posting images? :(

//retro skinners
i will add a new catagory called "classic" skins or something and then probably place all retro skins under there, not catagorised by teams, but i will be able to move them myself so its all good :)

GTAce
22nd January 2008, 12:43 AM
Before someone steals my next project again (just kidding):
http://xs123.xs.to/xs123/08042/qirexcraftscreen804.png.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs123&d=08042&f=qirexcraftscreen804.png)
This is a VERY and i mean VERY early work in progress of my wipEout 1 Qirex.
A lot of work because of the shape, impossible to copy the original one 100%...

Alucioj
22nd January 2008, 01:31 AM
Awesome ships guys, really impressive.

Ive never been one to dabble with photoshop, my most testing skills come from Microsoft Paint :P

Can you actually import images into the editor or can you only work with the tools there? Also I found the colour scheme was set for each section of the ship and only when you complete blank canvas the ship can you start messing around- otherwise you are altering the specific colours?!

To be brutally honest I can only see me using some user created skins because my attempts would look lamer than the defaults lol.

BARTgai
22nd January 2008, 02:36 AM
the colors are set for each ship when it first loads, but once you make the craft a solid color, you can pick the colors for the other 15

and yes, you can import/export between the editor and photoshop ( or ms paint in your case :) )

Alucioj
22nd January 2008, 02:38 AM
Thanks BARTgai that confirms it all :)

Seek100
23rd January 2008, 09:36 PM
Lo again dudes, been watching all the retro designs in this thread and it inspired me a little... So I started work on this:

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w247/S33K100/NewOldFEISARWIP1.jpg

(someone wanna tell me how to do thumbnails on here? Pretty please...)

It's a very early WIP shot, but you get the idea. I've still gotta add some shading and detail, and logos and such, gonna give it the 2097 Feisar logo and some personal tag or sumat :D

Stew2000
23rd January 2008, 09:39 PM
That looks good Seek. be good to see it finished ;)

QirexAAX
23rd January 2008, 10:46 PM
Looking good so far Seek100, keep up the good work ^_^

Well, I'm back from my (totally deserved) exile. To begin with, here's (a smaller version of ) the image I posted that quite rightly got me banned. I had included a long apology about how it was just a modified Feisar skin with some boldinated colours and to Fascia for the fact that I had unwittingly copied him. Anyway, Dogg's union flag Feisar encouraged me to post this, which is the skin I usually race in in the single-player campaign, nothing exciting, but I quite like it.

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/euro4.jpg

Actually, I currently have this image (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/wo_20080122_021233.jpg) as my PSP wallpaper.

QirexAAX
23rd January 2008, 11:08 PM
So, aside from that, in my exile I have been working on something else. With the upcoming English language version of Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core, I couldn't help but feel that one FFVII skin (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/wo_20080123_162534.jpg) wasn't enough, so I made this:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/wo_20080123_202337.jpg

A Feisar tribute to the ever-so-short-lived Tiny Bronco. Something totally different to the previous retro skins I've been making. While they were what I would consider very simple and fairly effective this one was very complicated to do and somehow not so effective. It took a heck of a lot of work in terms of colour management and in creating the weathered painjob in the reddish sections entirely using MSPaint's pencil tool, and while I think it's almost certainly my most technically advanced skin I'm somehow not pleased with the result. I think it's missing something. Anyhow, here are some more detailed views:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/TinyBronco.jpg

And the original version:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/TinyBroncoB.jpg

Seek100
24th January 2008, 01:58 AM
Thanks Stew2000 and QirexAAX. :)

And AAX, those are some nice skins, I have to say I prefer Fascia's version of the Chibby-Feisar (spelling?) His looked more 'clean' but yours is good too and the Union Flag and the beloved EU flag are nicely done.

The FF stuff is totally lost on me - hate the games, but that is one sweet skin you've made there that rust effect must have taken hours.

Anyway, I got bored of grinding Scourge in WPL on Warcrack so I put some Sisterhood and Sisters of Mercy on, cranked it up and got back to work resulting in:

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w247/S33K100/NewOldFEISARWIP2.jpg

I've just got to add a Feisar logo and pilot markings, I'm gonna do one with Sophia de la Renté's markings like the original image to publish and then one more personalised which I'll hoard like a greedy so and so. :P

.

CR4SH3D
24th January 2008, 03:53 AM
great job on those skins guys :D

//qirexaax
niiiice detailing as always i see, and very random inspiration :P

//seek
thats really cool, kinda reminds me of a more hardcore thunderbird 1, have any ingame shots?

kanar
24th January 2008, 08:23 PM
Hi guyz, this my first post so, ok maybe it's not the right place for presentations but I've couple of pics too...
I'm French, and 10 years ago I was astonished by the state of the art wipeout1... Today, the dream is coming true : online experience and ship customization!!! I really hope this possibility will be in wipeout HD too -can't wait the release...- I'm a Piranha lover for ages -cool design but why Brazil??? lol- Here's the pics, lot of work, for nothing lol... See ya online, my host : avalon, psn kanar -Hi zargz, you're really huge, you kicked my a-- 3/4 times in a row -cool ship!-

Kansas
24th January 2008, 08:41 PM
When you switch to the colour picker there are copy & paste icons at the bottom of the editor. So from there you just click copy to get it to the clip board and then paste it into your image editor of choice.

...and from there? How do you paste the image from the clipboard to the skin editor? I've tried and it won't let me.

phl0w
24th January 2008, 08:50 PM
Open the colour palette again and click on the clipboard that says "paste" ;)

zargz
24th January 2008, 10:01 PM
// kanar

welcome to the wo zone!

nice piranhas there! :+

thank you but I'm not that awesome - I'm just a flash racer on my way to rapier :D
you should race some of our Phantom pilots, the you'll be impressed, for sure!

why brazil?

the piranha fish is from there ;)
.

QirexAAX
24th January 2008, 10:27 PM
Nice Piranhas, Kanar!

I should make something other than a Feisar skin every now and then.

Anyway, I've been trying for quite a while to come up with something to use as my own racing skin that looks original but also that really fits the team design. I think I've finally come up with something I like:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/feisarnew.jpg

Another pic (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/wo_20080124_231309.jpg)
And another pic, pretty much exactly the same angle. (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/wo_20080124_231639.jpg)

I'm trying to decide whether I should leave it crisp and clean like this or rough it up a bit.

Kansas
24th January 2008, 10:36 PM
Open the colour palette again and click on the clipboard that says "paste" ;)

Yeah, I tried that but it wouldn't do anything. Does it have to be a particular file?

QirexAAX
24th January 2008, 10:38 PM
You don't want to copy the actual file, it's just the flat image that you need to select and copy.

Kansas
24th January 2008, 11:10 PM
I'm sorry for being retarded...but could you explain that in simpler terms, please?

QirexAAX
24th January 2008, 11:15 PM
Sure:

Open your image in Microsoft paint. Press ctrl+A (a dotted line should appear around the outside of the image) then ctrl+c. Then go into the editor, click the pallette followed by the clipboard icon.

hope that helps.

Kansas
24th January 2008, 11:37 PM
Okay, I get the idea... thanks :D

So, we use the different panels as a canvas, but we have to make sure that all the script and images match up, right?

kanar
25th January 2008, 05:48 AM
AAx, Zargz, thanks for the look! I'm still a venom pilot, I have a lot of work to do/play now!

Ricanebleu
25th January 2008, 10:56 AM
I didn’t have time to post here in a while. So lets see:

CR4SH3D, I’m glad you add up the new category for the “Classics”, dough you have forgotten to move Dogg Thang’s Assegai W3O ant the GTAce AGs from W’O’’.
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GTAce, can’t wait to see what you will come up for that Solaar Qirex. It is going to be quite a challenge do to the new shape of the ship. So far I can’t imagine anything more then a green Qirex.
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Seek100, wonderful Feisar, beautiful in deed :clap looks just like the one in the front screen of W’O’’1. I never understood why did they made different designs for the Video and for the in game. Really good work especially if you think there isn’t much visual reference for that design.
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AXX, be careful in the future. It is really a shame not to have you around for something that can be avoided. Better use the icon so this way you won’t have to worry about posting images to big by mistake.
I like the Faisar ( the first one ) just as I liked Fascias which I believe to be the most clean personalization so far . It probably doesn’t matter but if you look here
(Ups I almost did it. The icon had about 200 and more k , not good not good, here is the link
http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ps3wipeout07yd8.jpg )
you can see the Xios logo. So I believe the “Chiby” is in fact EG-X’s mascot, not Feisar’s.
For the Tiny Bronco , as usual only superlatives as each and every time you bring us a new concept. I have no idea haw you picture these things up. Without seeing the Feisar I wouldn’t even link the 2 ships for the same pattern . they are so different in shape.
As for your last Feisar skin, it is absolutely better then the Chiby one, I guess if you can it would look nicer if you could ad some …dirt? I mean the kind of wear that forms from smoke and blasts.
Also one question: QirexAXX in a Feisar ?!?!! I thought you are racing Qirex!
Oh, one more thing : how are things going with the WO3 collection. I’m still waiting for your version of the Assegai, AGS, Icaras & Auricom. :p
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Kanar, welcome to the Zone, lovely ship design, especially the last one in snake scales. Brasil ? I too wondered about this when it appeared in the 3rd. initially it was Chinese and it brought much more secrecy in it’s image.
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Zargz, haw can you say what your speed class is ? I reached the 3rd grid of Phantom and I can’t really say I have much trouble winning. On the other hand in Pure I sure sweat for a gold at rapier. I mean is there a way in saying “I’m that good as to be called a [speed-class] pilot”?
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As for my self I have begun to upgrade a bit my Blue Grin design as I still have some colors available. Hopefully around Monday I’ll be able to come up with some pictures.
Long post, hope you won’t all jump on me for that.

Ash-Omen
25th January 2008, 01:53 PM
My new Goteki :g

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff12/AshOmen2007/Metalteki.jpg

Ricanebleu
25th January 2008, 02:48 PM
:eek ….Much more likeable then the previous one ;) but a bit too monochrome. A bit of color wouldn’t hurt. Also, what is about that …:nod? As much as I try, I can’t picture it in the wipeout time line.

realityhole
25th January 2008, 03:15 PM
Well i'm new to the custom skinning scene, but here is my first attempt on an assegai, I really need to "dirty" it up, and add in some more detail, it just seems too plain at the moment, any suggestions?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/13619572@N03/2218259305/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/13619572@N03/2218259303/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/13619572@N03/2218259297/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/13619572@N03/2218259293/
Also, I made a ship skin request under the custom ship skin requests thread, could someone have a look please? I think its on page 2 of the forum

CR4SH3D
25th January 2008, 04:31 PM
//Ricanebleu
cheers, i was hoping someone would mention others that needed moving :P ive done that now

//ashome
nice skin, id try adjusting the contrast though to bring out the steel texture ingame

//realityhole
very nice clean and crisp skin, works great ingame :) good job

//everyone posting skins on wipeout-skins
as mentioned there is now a "Retro/Remake" catagory for skins, theres no subcatagories in there so if you do say a Wip3out style Feisar then youd post it there etc

ive moved all the relevant skins into there aswell so if you think yours is missing thats where it is, cheers

Ash-Omen
25th January 2008, 04:51 PM
//ashome
nice skin, id try adjusting the contrast though to bring out the steel texture ingame


looks ok ingame lol. But i see wat u mean, steel only has so much contrast lol

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff12/AshOmen2007/wo_20080125_145846.jpg

zargz
25th January 2008, 06:31 PM
Zargz, haw can you say what your speed class is ? I reached the 3rd grid of Phantom and I can’t really say I have much trouble winning. On the other hand in Pure I sure sweat for a gold at rapier. I mean is there a way in saying “I’m that good as to be called a [speed-class] pilot”?
hmm .. good question ric.
guess I was thinking in which class I feel comfortable racing.
online I race mostly flash but now with some pilots from here
I've just started joining rapier races as well. though there I lack the controll I (think) have in flash.
perhaps other way is seeing on what class you can do PLs!

yesterday I actually unlocked phantom grids 2, 3 and 4 without racing a sigle Single Race or tournament
just bouncing of the walls on TTs, speed laps and some eliminators
so I guess the people bitching about ph. TT and speed lap being too easy were right.
it seem like rapier was harder.
Although the Races in Phantom, SR and Tournaments, are a totally different story!!! :eek
I've Only won One phantom race
the talon white on the 1st phantom grid.

btw as I remember there were a few phantom TTs in Pure that also were easyer than in rapier.

so ..

I guess it's up to you to 'brand' yoursef - [speed class] pilot. ;)

I think the ' I'm comfortable with x-class racing' is a good system 8)

TearsToShreds
25th January 2008, 07:27 PM
My Wipeout 1 Quirex:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a351/Simonbeekman/wo_20080125_211818.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a351/Simonbeekman/wo_20080125_211640.jpg

Still needs some work, but it's pretty close to perfect now. :)

Ricanebleu
25th January 2008, 10:07 PM
Zargs, when I said I reached the 3rd grid I meant I won all the races so far, but I can’t really place myself anywhere. I’ll try to put it in an other way : is there anybody who can say that in phantom on a technical circuit like Outpost 7 would get most of the times PL? In Gran Turismo you know when you get good, the AI doesn’t handle the challenge anymore, but here every time I get in SR I feel …just lucky. Is it easier to race online with vets then with an aggressive AI? It is off topic, I know but still, since it came up here.
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Ash, I can see the difference in game, it looks much better, but I still think “vegetation” doesn’t look good in w’o’’ :rolleyes:
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The Muse, really nice skin there but why did you rushed it? The Q logos are not symmetrical and the lines in it are absent, also many details are not finished, why ? Disregarding these small details the design adaptation is surprisingly good. Perhaps you will give it a second look so it could become a star :g?

propsp
25th January 2008, 10:22 PM
looks ok ingame lol. But i see wat u mean, steel only has so much contrast lol

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff12/AshOmen2007/wo_20080125_145846.jpg

MAN I NEED THAT SKIN!!!! My last name is STEELE!! lol.

TearsToShreds
25th January 2008, 10:30 PM
Oops, I just noticed I spelled Qirex wrong. In my mind it had always been Quirex. ;) About the original Qirex: I didn't rush it, I just don't have everyday access to the internet, so I couldn't test until today (I use internet at my mom's, I don't have it at home, yet). Also, I didn't mean to make an exact copy of the original Wipeout Qirex. As the shape of the Pulse Qirex is already different, I thought I could make some other modifications as well, to make it look better in general. Maybe I'll work on a complete copy (as far as that's possible) next week. :)

Ricanebleu
25th January 2008, 10:53 PM
I didn’t mean it wasn’t an exact copy of the previous. Just that the details you have placed already could be more …clear. But if you haven’t done it at home then it is understandable. Just keep up the good work, it has potential ( what am I saying it is already looking good!?!!??)

Ash-Omen
25th January 2008, 11:09 PM
MAN I NEED THAT SKIN!!!! My last name is STEELE!! lol.

u can get it on here lol http://www.wipeout-skins.co.nr/ ;)

GTAce
25th January 2008, 11:11 PM
Muse, your skin looks good, but i started this earlier and want to finish it i hope you dont bother:
http://xs223.xs.to/xs223/08046/qirexf3600nr5280.png.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs223&d=08046&f=qirexf3600nr5280.png)
Work in progress though.^^

TearsToShreds
25th January 2008, 11:21 PM
Of course I don't mind, would be good to see the Ken Solaar Qirex online as well! Like your skin so far, too. For me, it's time to start thinking on a new project. This Qirex was my first skin. Seeing that most classic skins have already been made, and there's only still two Triakis skins on Wipeoutskins, I think I'll go for that one. :)

QirexAAX
26th January 2008, 12:04 AM
Also one question: QirexAXX in a Feisar ?!?!!

Well, basically when I started playing I was pretty sure Qirex was going to be the team for me, but everything else aside I just prefer the Feisar craft aesthetically to any of the others. Now it's too late to be FeisarAAX ^_^

I've had a bit of a break from the WO3 ships but I will be back onto them this weekend I suppose. Hopefully I should have the lot finished fairly soon.

Speaking of WO3, I just spent the last few minutes doing this. Thoughts? Worth carrying on with?

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/curlyagsys.jpg

GTAce
26th January 2008, 12:24 AM
Im not so familiar with WO3 so is this just because of curly (so self made) or is it a skin from an wip3out craft?

I like it but if its self designe you should add more of this awesome green, maybe a small stripe on each of the wings or something.

QirexAAX
26th January 2008, 12:28 AM
Oh, yeah, of course, I don't consider it to be finished, I was just playing around with it and if there were any particular curly fans on here I might make it into a full ship, otherwise I'll probably just file it and likely forget about it.

Ricanebleu
26th January 2008, 12:38 AM
By all means YES!!! Man you make them seam so easy to do. I thought about a black ship that wouldn’t be just black but rather dark…(side of the force :p). I’m not sure what is on top but Curly sure looks good on this. Man you could leave it like this and still it would look good. Suggestions? I don’t dare to make any. Not so early in its development anyway. Finish it, please, it is a super idea.

GTAce
26th January 2008, 12:38 AM
You should work with it, it looks cool.
Maybe make a 3 2 1 on the flat area from the nose and that go on both wings?
Oh i shouldnt suggest to much, you know what youre doing.^^

EDIT: "Suggestions? I don’t dare to make any"
LOL... 8 ) Yeah i just cant shut up.

realityhole
26th January 2008, 09:23 AM
Hmmm... I've decided to move onto skinning Qirexs now thats my favourite team, but I'm having trouble coming up with my ideas... I was thinking of something in the style of my Assegai, but that would look too plain on a Qirex...

GTAce
26th January 2008, 03:16 PM
http://xs123.xs.to/xs123/08046/qirexcraftscreen2875.png.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs123&d=08046&f=qirexcraftscreen2875.png)
Thoughts, suggestions, would Kel Solaar be happy with that? 8 )

lunar
26th January 2008, 03:54 PM
I think Kel would be happy, though he never does look happy even when he wins. One thing, the original ship was filled with a textured green rather than a solid green, and this might look better. It`s in the menus file I think, and you can use photoshop texture editor to fill areas with it.

GTAce
26th January 2008, 03:58 PM
Yep i must try this, i just hope it wont brake the color limit or looks blocky...
Had this problem on the AGs.

Medusa
26th January 2008, 04:09 PM
Definitely keep up work with that Curly ship!! Great idea, I'm surprised no one thought of that before you, actually!:clap

TearsToShreds
26th January 2008, 06:21 PM
The Quirex ship still looks a bit flat and dull, in my honest opinion. Try to add some little details while still trying to make it look clean.

QirexAAX
26th January 2008, 09:34 PM
Here's a small view of my Wipe3out ship skins so far. Thanks to Dogg Thang for allowing me to modify his Assegai, and to BARTgai for some help with the Feisar.

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/w3olayout.jpg

I still need to do some testing and tweaking on them, and for that reason I'm not going to make an Icaras or Auricom skin until they're playable.

Obviously I had to make some major compromises with the AG-Sys and Piranha skins as their shapes are so different from their Pulse incarnations.

BARTgai
26th January 2008, 10:42 PM
*drool* :eek

i really hope you release those :)

QirexAAX
26th January 2008, 10:50 PM
lol, Definitely. A few too many for just me to use.

phl0w
26th January 2008, 11:53 PM
They're awesome! The colours on Goteki and Assegai are exceptionally good looking.
Now if only someone would make the alternative livery from Pure's Piranha, which is imo the all-time best WO skin. Unfortunately there're no pictures of it.

tapioca
26th January 2008, 11:59 PM
You did a great job with this, AAX… And if the concept ships become skinnable as promised, you could come up with an even more accurate Piranha, as the models are quite similar.
Thumbs up !

CR4SH3D
27th January 2008, 10:47 AM
//ash omen
thats true :P and it does look great ingame actually

//the muse
lovely skin there :D great job, i might even nab it if you upload it :)

//Ricanebleu
haha true about the 'vegetation', it might be ok to have some while playing a mate but if your actually racing around in real life that quick.. ..i wouldnt trust my reflexes :P

//qirexaax
PLEEEEEEEEEEASe carry on with that dark skin, it looks great! maybe make the panels with curly on fit around him (i have a thing about that, i think it just looks better) and try green paneling on the backsection, maybe fading out to grey on the main hull?
curly rocks!

//tapioca
concept ships? are they in the downloads or unlockable? O_O

Ash-Omen
27th January 2008, 11:00 AM
haha true about the 'vegetation', it might be ok to have some while playing a mate but if your actually racing around in real life that quick.. ..i wouldnt trust my reflexes :P

haha ive played it alot in that "state" its umm interesting lol i reakonmend it if ur into herbology :D

Nadia Elenova
27th January 2008, 11:18 AM
Long time no see! There's a lot of new cool skins in this thread!
In this one I've just been playing around with textures from the rear part of a CPU.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc261/hostiaputa/piranhaCPU.gif

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc261/hostiaputa/piranhaCPUingame.jpg

CR4SH3D
27th January 2008, 11:21 AM
//ash omen
i have done :P a bit of a 1on1 20 odd race tourney in his shed at 4am :) what an experience lol

//nadia
that looks awesome! great job on placing the textures etc, any ingame shots?

Ash-Omen
27th January 2008, 12:24 PM
Nadia that does look sick! makes my textureing look like crap :brickwall lol

for example : http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff12/AshOmen2007/Metalteki.jpg

u know wat would look really cool som1 make a carbon fibre skin would look great on a piranha, som1 go do it lol not skilled enough and too lazy.

tapioca
27th January 2008, 12:50 PM
concept ships? are they in the downloads or unlockable? O_O
You can unlock the concept ship when you get 25.000 loyalty points for a specific team. Another method is to get 100.00 points for one team, which unlocks all skins and models for every single team. According to Egg (SL ship designer), all will be skinnable.

SPOILER (pic © Sausehuhn) : http://cybershot.cy.funpic.de/kram/sonstige_bilder/WipEoutZone/inGameScreenshotsWipeoutPulseJPG/wo_20071222_110005.jpg

Ash-Omen
27th January 2008, 01:37 PM
concept skins aint skinnable "yet" hopfully they will be.
Pulse is in desperate need of a patch

TearsToShreds
27th January 2008, 02:32 PM
CR4SH3D, my skin is already available on www.wipeout-skins.co.nr/. Good to know someone likes it. :)

Dogg Thang
27th January 2008, 03:24 PM
According to Egg (SL ship designer), all will be skinnable.

Just to clarify so people don't get their pitchforks and torches out if it doesn't happen, as far as I know what Egg said is that they are capable of being skinable. Not that it would absolutely happen. Of course, I hope it does.

QirexAAX
27th January 2008, 04:03 PM
Does anyone have the images like the background to this image (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/Assegai.jpg) for any other Wip3out teams? I'm hoping to make a similar image for each of my Wip3out skins.

(Again, credit to Dogg for his Assegai that I used as a basis, and yes, I have noticed that I have the logo backwards on the lower left view)

Dogg Thang
27th January 2008, 04:23 PM
I haven't got what you need, QirexAAX, but that is looking great. Love the colours.

Sausehuhn
27th January 2008, 05:14 PM
That may help you, QirexAAX

http://kleber.net/wipeout3/teams/
http://kleber.net/wipeout3/pitlane/wallpaper/

CR4SH3D
27th January 2008, 07:52 PM
//qirexaax
i havent got any like that sorry man, where did you find that one?
can you not work from that one for all the teams though?

//tapioca
i just got the ag-sys one, one hell of an ugly ship :P oh well

QirexAAX
27th January 2008, 11:31 PM
can you not work from that one for all the teams though?

Good idea: Here's what I came up with (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/Qirex.jpg)

Also, thanks Sause, I couldn't find the images I was looking for on that site but it's certainly nice to look at anyway.

BARTgai
27th January 2008, 11:34 PM
i think it looks great :+

GTAce
28th January 2008, 01:20 AM
Im sorry and dont want to annoy you folks but i need some more ideas.
http://wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=79974&postcount=717
I tried the texture stuff but that looks... well like ****.
Must admit it looks a bit bland but i also dont want to add too much because i dont want to go away from the original design.

Hmpf i should give up skinning. 8(

BARTgai
28th January 2008, 04:03 AM
well, i think it looks pretty good. perhaps you could add some worn effects the green areas. maybe some lines to make it look like panels.

how many colors do you have left?

Kansas
28th January 2008, 08:20 AM
This is my first attempt at a skin.

It's based on the "Cocibolca" team that I had created for some WO fanfic

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a371/DUBKansas/Wipeout/Cocibolca-1.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a371/DUBKansas/Wipeout/Cocibolca-2.jpg

let me know what you think :D

zargz
28th January 2008, 09:50 AM
looks good! :+

GTAce
28th January 2008, 01:00 PM
how many colors do you have left?

None, i could cut here and there but everything i add that is brighter than that green comes out blue, and everything i add thats darker looks to dark (almost black, pretty ugly).
I tried to add "Kel Solaar" on one of the white areas behind the cockpit but it wont show up, maybe to small so that the editor cant show it.


@Kansas: Looks cool! :+

QirexAAX
28th January 2008, 01:59 PM
Hey all, sorry to keep posting about these, but I've finally finished the preview sheets of, and uploaded, my Wip3out ship skins collection.

Previews:

AG-Sys (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/AG-S.jpg)
Assegai (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/Assegai.jpg)
Feisar (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/Feisar-1.jpg)
Goteki45 (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/Goteki.jpg)
Piranha (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/Piranha-2.jpg)
Qired-RD (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/Qirex.jpg)

They're now all available at Wipeout-Skins (http://www.wipeout-skins.co.nr).

Flashback Jack
28th January 2008, 02:04 PM
How are you guys putting those slick looking 3D panels on your ships?

- F

lunar
28th January 2008, 02:07 PM
Don`t be sorry, we all really enjoy your work. They`re amazing! Would you mind telling me what photoshop tool you use to create the lines for the panels? That`s one of the things that really impresses me on your skins.

@Kansas, I really like the colour scheme and details on your Assegai. Definitely a distinctive and cool look for online play.

QirexAAX
28th January 2008, 02:21 PM
Photoshop tool? I do it all in MSPaint, literally.

I've put together an example image of how I do panelling:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/kaloikagathoi/PanelExample.png

Hope that helps a bit.

Sometimes I do the panelling with highlights on both sides of the dividing line (eg: In the custom AG-Sys I did for CR4SH3D (http://wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=78998&postcount=577)), depending on what looks best with the colours and the kind of effect you want to get.